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  #1  
Old July 28th 04, 05:39 PM
tiger
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Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

We have received lots of help tonight with our Windows XP
software problem, so here is another question. We have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer, and Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in order to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro and one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger
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  #2  
Old July 28th 04, 07:14 PM
Michael D. Alligood
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Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

I remember reading and, I believe answer some of your posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must say that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off, let me say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it out, the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time you will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or from a computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer guy. Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from him, you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows xp cd on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is not the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home edition on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be done without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows xp professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I replace there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to install windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that this product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft and they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so in the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our Windows XP
software problem, so here is another question. We have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer, and Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in order to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro and one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger



  #3  
Old July 28th 04, 07:28 PM
Michael D. Alligood
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Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

Please excuse the grammatically error on my previous post. It is midnight
and I am tired... yawn.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"Michael D. Alligood" wrote in message
...
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of your posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must say that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off, let me say this about

the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it out, the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time you will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or from a computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer guy. Here is your ammo

for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from him, you purchased

the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows xp cd on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is not the cd mind you.

The
problem is that both your old computer's and new computer's windows

product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home edition on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be done without a

problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows xp professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are planning on using the

same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into clients whos hard

drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I replace there hard drives

and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to install windows xp on

their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that this product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft and they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so in the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our Windows XP
software problem, so here is another question. We have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer, and Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in order to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro and one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger





  #4  
Old July 28th 04, 07:29 PM
tiger
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Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version) from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft today told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of course we all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs. Do you think that he
said this in reference to my actual computer guy (small
time store) because he knew that I hadn't purchased a
major OEM computer package?

Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of your

posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must say

that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off, let me

say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it out,

the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time you

will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or from a

computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer guy.

Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from him,

you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows xp cd

on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is not

the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new

computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home edition

on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be done

without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows xp

professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are

planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into

clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I replace

there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to install

windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that this

product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft and

they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so in

the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our Windows

XP
software problem, so here is another question. We have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer, and

Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd

computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in order

to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro and

one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade

version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger



.

  #5  
Old July 28th 04, 07:58 PM
Michael D. Alligood
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Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP Pro instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time, and less hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to my actual computer guy

(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is that the rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never going to get awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version) from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft today told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of course we all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs.
Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of your

posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must say

that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off, let me

say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it out,

the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time you

will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or from a

computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer guy.

Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from him,

you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows xp cd

on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is not

the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new

computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home edition

on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be done

without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows xp

professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are

planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into

clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I replace

there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to install

windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that this

product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft and

they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so in

the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our Windows

XP
software problem, so here is another question. We have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer, and

Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd

computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in order

to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro and

one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade

version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger



.



  #6  
Old July 29th 04, 11:27 AM
tiger
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Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

Can you elaborate please - in reference to rep not knowing
what he was talking about? Are you saying that OEM
sources can be burned onto CD? According to the Microsoft
website all Windows products must come with both a: COA
and hologram CD, period.

In regards to buying XP Pro full version - this is close
to $450.00 + tax by itself, and then we still need to buy
the upgrade version at $300.00 + tax (total $800.00) to
put into second computer. We don't think that the 2nd
computer needs Pro as well, so we thought why not buy the
full version of Home for $300.00 and then by Pro upgrade
for $300.00 ($600.00). Want to do everything properly,
but looking to save some money as we might be out the
$160.00 as well for the burned OEM version that our
computer guy sold to us. Looking at all suggestions,
thanks.

Please explain your Microsoft reference, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP Pro

instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time, and less

hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to my

actual computer guy
(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't

purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is that the

rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never going to get

awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version) from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft today

told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of course we

all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs.
Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of your

posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must say

that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off, let

me
say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it

out,
the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time you

will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or

from a
computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer guy.

Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from

him,
you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows xp

cd
on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is not

the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new

computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home

edition
on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be

done
without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows xp

professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are

planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then

no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into

clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I replace

there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to install

windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that this

product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft and

they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so in

the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our

Windows
XP
software problem, so here is another question. We

have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer, and

Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd

computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in

order
to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro

and
one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade

version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger


.



.

  #7  
Old July 29th 04, 11:54 AM
Michael D. Alligood
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

I am looking at one cd right now. It is a Gateway "Operating System --
Windows XP -- Home Edition" cd. It is not a hologram cd. I
do own the hologram cds as well. And all came with a COA. In regards to the
price of Windows XP Professional, it sell for $299 at Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....type=pr oduct

And Windows XP Home is $199. Then you tack on another $199 for the
Professional upgrade. That $400 plus tax right there. Hope that helps!

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Can you elaborate please - in reference to rep not knowing
what he was talking about? Are you saying that OEM
sources can be burned onto CD? According to the Microsoft
website all Windows products must come with both a: COA
and hologram CD, period.

In regards to buying XP Pro full version - this is close
to $450.00 + tax by itself, and then we still need to buy
the upgrade version at $300.00 + tax (total $800.00) to
put into second computer. We don't think that the 2nd
computer needs Pro as well, so we thought why not buy the
full version of Home for $300.00 and then by Pro upgrade
for $300.00 ($600.00). Want to do everything properly,
but looking to save some money as we might be out the
$160.00 as well for the burned OEM version that our
computer guy sold to us. Looking at all suggestions,
thanks.

Please explain your Microsoft reference, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP Pro

instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time, and less

hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to my

actual computer guy
(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't

purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is that the

rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never going to get

awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version) from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft today

told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of course we

all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs.
Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of your
posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must say
that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off, let

me
say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it

out,
the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time you
will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or

from a
computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer guy.
Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from

him,
you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows xp

cd
on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is not
the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new
computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home

edition
on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be

done
without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows xp
professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are
planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then

no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into
clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I replace
there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to install
windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that this
product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft and
they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so in
the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our

Windows
XP
software problem, so here is another question. We

have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer, and
Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd
computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in

order
to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro

and
one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade
version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger


.



.




  #8  
Old July 29th 04, 12:01 PM
tiger
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

Thanks - you might have missed in my other post that I am
Canadian, so the prices seem to be much higher over here.
Would you know if we are allowed to purchase US software?

Also, here is another scenario since you've been so
helpful:

Can I buy 1 full version of Home Ed. and 1 Home upgrade
and use these on both of my computers (2 different COAs on
2 different computers)?

Thanks,Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I am looking at one cd right now. It is a

Gateway "Operating System --
Windows XP -- Home Edition" cd. It is not a hologram cd. I
do own the hologram cds as well. And all came with a COA.

In regards to the
price of Windows XP Professional, it sell for $299 at

Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?

id=1051806637688&skuId=4272307&type=product

And Windows XP Home is $199. Then you tack on another

$199 for the
Professional upgrade. That $400 plus tax right there.

Hope that helps!

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Can you elaborate please - in reference to rep not

knowing
what he was talking about? Are you saying that OEM
sources can be burned onto CD? According to the

Microsoft
website all Windows products must come with both a: COA
and hologram CD, period.

In regards to buying XP Pro full version - this is close
to $450.00 + tax by itself, and then we still need to

buy
the upgrade version at $300.00 + tax (total $800.00) to
put into second computer. We don't think that the 2nd
computer needs Pro as well, so we thought why not buy

the
full version of Home for $300.00 and then by Pro upgrade
for $300.00 ($600.00). Want to do everything properly,
but looking to save some money as we might be out the
$160.00 as well for the burned OEM version that our
computer guy sold to us. Looking at all suggestions,
thanks.

Please explain your Microsoft reference, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP Pro

instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time, and less

hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to my

actual computer guy
(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't

purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is that

the
rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never going to

get
awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we

are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version)

from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way

we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not

have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to

wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has

to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft today

told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of course

we
all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs.
Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of

your
posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must

say
that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off,

let
me
say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it

out,
the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time

you
will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or

from a
computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer

guy.
Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from

him,
you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows

xp
cd
on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is

not
the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new
computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home

edition
on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be

done
without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows

xp
professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are
planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then

no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into
clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I

replace
there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to

install
windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that

this
product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft

and
they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so

in
the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our

Windows
XP
software problem, so here is another question. We

have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer,

and
Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's

question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd
computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in

order
to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro

and
one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade
version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger


.



.




.

  #9  
Old July 29th 04, 12:58 PM
Michael D. Alligood
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

Yeah, I kind of missed the Canadian part... Really, I am not sure about
purchasing software from the US. I do not see a reason why you cannot.

Can I buy 1 full version of Home Ed. and 1 Home upgrade
and use these on both of my computers (2 different COAs on
2 different computers)?


Do you mean 1 full version of home ed. and 1 pro upgrade on the same pc.
Yes, can do that without a problem...

Good Luck!
--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks - you might have missed in my other post that I am
Canadian, so the prices seem to be much higher over here.
Would you know if we are allowed to purchase US software?

Also, here is another scenario since you've been so
helpful:


Thanks,Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I am looking at one cd right now. It is a

Gateway "Operating System --
Windows XP -- Home Edition" cd. It is not a hologram cd. I
do own the hologram cds as well. And all came with a COA.

In regards to the
price of Windows XP Professional, it sell for $299 at

Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?

id=1051806637688&skuId=4272307&type=product

And Windows XP Home is $199. Then you tack on another

$199 for the
Professional upgrade. That $400 plus tax right there.

Hope that helps!

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Can you elaborate please - in reference to rep not

knowing
what he was talking about? Are you saying that OEM
sources can be burned onto CD? According to the

Microsoft
website all Windows products must come with both a: COA
and hologram CD, period.

In regards to buying XP Pro full version - this is close
to $450.00 + tax by itself, and then we still need to

buy
the upgrade version at $300.00 + tax (total $800.00) to
put into second computer. We don't think that the 2nd
computer needs Pro as well, so we thought why not buy

the
full version of Home for $300.00 and then by Pro upgrade
for $300.00 ($600.00). Want to do everything properly,
but looking to save some money as we might be out the
$160.00 as well for the burned OEM version that our
computer guy sold to us. Looking at all suggestions,
thanks.

Please explain your Microsoft reference, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP Pro
instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time, and less
hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to my
actual computer guy
(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't
purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is that

the
rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never going to

get
awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we

are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version)

from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way

we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not

have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to

wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has

to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft today
told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of course

we
all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs.
Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of

your
posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must

say
that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off,

let
me
say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it
out,
the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time

you
will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or
from a
computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer

guy.
Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from
him,
you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows

xp
cd
on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is

not
the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new
computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home
edition
on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be
done
without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows

xp
professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are
planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then
no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into
clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I

replace
there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to

install
windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that

this
product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft

and
they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so

in
the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in
message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our
Windows
XP
software problem, so here is another question. We
have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer,

and
Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's

question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd
computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in
order
to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro
and
one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade
version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger


.



.




.



  #10  
Old July 29th 04, 12:59 PM
David Candy
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

It depends on the agreement that your two countries have. The US attemps =
to make this illegal in all countries. Unlike my country Canada stands =
up to the US rather than getting the tongue working.=20

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Michael D. Alligood" wrote in message =
...
Yeah, I kind of missed the Canadian part... Really, I am not sure =

about
purchasing software from the US. I do not see a reason why you cannot.
=20
Can I buy 1 full version of Home Ed. and 1 Home upgrade
and use these on both of my computers (2 different COAs on
2 different computers)?

=20
Do you mean 1 full version of home ed. and 1 pro upgrade on the same =

pc.
Yes, can do that without a problem...
=20
Good Luck!
--=20
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks - you might have missed in my other post that I am
Canadian, so the prices seem to be much higher over here.
Would you know if we are allowed to purchase US software?

Also, here is another scenario since you've been so
helpful:


Thanks,Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I am looking at one cd right now. It is a

Gateway "Operating System --=20
Windows XP -- Home Edition" cd. It is not a hologram cd. I
do own the hologram cds as well. And all came with a COA.

In regards to the
price of Windows XP Professional, it sell for $299 at

Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?

id=3D1051806637688&skuId=3D4272307&type=3Dproduct

And Windows XP Home is $199. Then you tack on another

$199 for the
Professional upgrade. That $400 plus tax right there.

Hope that helps!

--=20
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Can you elaborate please - in reference to rep not

knowing
what he was talking about? Are you saying that OEM
sources can be burned onto CD? According to the

Microsoft
website all Windows products must come with both a: COA
and hologram CD, period.

In regards to buying XP Pro full version - this is close
to $450.00 + tax by itself, and then we still need to

buy
the upgrade version at $300.00 + tax (total $800.00) to
put into second computer. We don't think that the 2nd
computer needs Pro as well, so we thought why not buy

the
full version of Home for $300.00 and then by Pro upgrade
for $300.00 ($600.00). Want to do everything properly,
but looking to save some money as we might be out the
$160.00 as well for the burned OEM version that our
computer guy sold to us. Looking at all suggestions,
thanks.

Please explain your Microsoft reference, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP Pro
instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time, and less
hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to my
actual computer guy
(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't
purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is that

the
rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never going to

get
awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

--=20
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we

are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version)

from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way

we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not

have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to

wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has

to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft today
told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of course

we
all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs.
Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of

your
posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must

say
that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off,

let
me
say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it
out,
the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time

you
will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or
from a
computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer

guy.
Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from
him,
you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows

xp
cd
on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is

not
the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new
computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home
edition
on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be
done
without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows

xp
professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are
planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then
no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into
clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I

replace
there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to

install
windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that

this
product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft

and
they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so

in
the past year.

--=20
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in
message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our
Windows
XP
software problem, so here is another question. We
have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer,

and
Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's

question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd
computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in
order
to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro
and
one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade
version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger


.



.




.

=20

  #11  
Old July 29th 04, 01:00 PM
tiger
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

More clarification:

1 new computer - want to buy Home Ed. and use as a base to
upgrade Pro (so this computer will have Home Ed. on it
only as a means to upgrade to Pro). Therefore this
computer will use COA from Pro version.

2nd old computer - want to install the Home Ed. into this
computer and use Home Ed. as main os. This computer will
use COA from Home Ed.

I guess I'm asking if I can just install the Home Ed. as a
base into new computer, without registering, in order to
then install Pro version. I will then reinstall Home Ed.
into 2nd computer, but register using the COA that came
with it.

Do you follow? Tiger


-----Original Message-----
Yeah, I kind of missed the Canadian part... Really, I am

not sure about
purchasing software from the US. I do not see a reason

why you cannot.

Can I buy 1 full version of Home Ed. and 1 Home upgrade
and use these on both of my computers (2 different COAs

on
2 different computers)?


Do you mean 1 full version of home ed. and 1 pro upgrade

on the same pc.
Yes, can do that without a problem...

Good Luck!
--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks - you might have missed in my other post that I

am
Canadian, so the prices seem to be much higher over

here.
Would you know if we are allowed to purchase US

software?

Also, here is another scenario since you've been so
helpful:


Thanks,Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I am looking at one cd right now. It is a

Gateway "Operating System --
Windows XP -- Home Edition" cd. It is not a hologram

cd. I
do own the hologram cds as well. And all came with a

COA.
In regards to the
price of Windows XP Professional, it sell for $299 at

Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?

id=1051806637688&skuId=4272307&type=product

And Windows XP Home is $199. Then you tack on another

$199 for the
Professional upgrade. That $400 plus tax right there.

Hope that helps!

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
Can you elaborate please - in reference to rep not

knowing
what he was talking about? Are you saying that OEM
sources can be burned onto CD? According to the

Microsoft
website all Windows products must come with both a:

COA
and hologram CD, period.

In regards to buying XP Pro full version - this is

close
to $450.00 + tax by itself, and then we still need to

buy
the upgrade version at $300.00 + tax (total $800.00)

to
put into second computer. We don't think that the 2nd
computer needs Pro as well, so we thought why not buy

the
full version of Home for $300.00 and then by Pro

upgrade
for $300.00 ($600.00). Want to do everything

properly,
but looking to save some money as we might be out the
$160.00 as well for the burned OEM version that our
computer guy sold to us. Looking at all suggestions,
thanks.

Please explain your Microsoft reference, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP Pro
instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time, and

less
hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to my
actual computer guy
(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't
purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is that

the
rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never going

to
get
awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually

we
are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our

money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new

Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version)

from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This

way
we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not

have
any illegal software. It means that we will have

to
wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has

to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft

today
told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of

course
we
all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission

from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs.
Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of

your
posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must

say
that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off,

let
me
say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have

figured it
out,
the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only

time
you
will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores

or
from a
computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer

guy.
Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp

from
him,
you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new

windows
xp
cd
on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem

is
not
the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new
computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home
edition
on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this

can be
done
without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade

windows
xp
professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are
planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer,

then
no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run

into
clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I

replace
there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to

install
windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that

this
product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft

and
they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or

so
in
the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote

in
message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our
Windows
XP
software problem, so here is another question.

We
have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new

computer,
and
Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's

question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd
computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base

in
order
to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have

Pro
and
one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and

upgrade
version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger


.



.




.



.

  #12  
Old July 29th 04, 01:05 PM
David Candy
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

That's a breach of the EULA, which you can read by typing eula.txt into =
Start Run. Anything upgraded becomes part of the upgraded product.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"tiger" wrote in message =
...
More clarification:
=20
1 new computer - want to buy Home Ed. and use as a base to=20
upgrade Pro (so this computer will have Home Ed. on it=20
only as a means to upgrade to Pro). Therefore this=20
computer will use COA from Pro version.
=20
2nd old computer - want to install the Home Ed. into this=20
computer and use Home Ed. as main os. This computer will=20
use COA from Home Ed.=20
=20
I guess I'm asking if I can just install the Home Ed. as a=20
base into new computer, without registering, in order to=20
then install Pro version. I will then reinstall Home Ed.=20
into 2nd computer, but register using the COA that came=20
with it.
=20
Do you follow? Tiger
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
Yeah, I kind of missed the Canadian part... Really, I am=20

not sure about
purchasing software from the US. I do not see a reason=20

why you cannot.

Can I buy 1 full version of Home Ed. and 1 Home upgrade
and use these on both of my computers (2 different COAs=20

on
2 different computers)?


Do you mean 1 full version of home ed. and 1 pro upgrade=20

on the same pc.
Yes, can do that without a problem...

Good Luck!
--=20
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks - you might have missed in my other post that I=20

am
Canadian, so the prices seem to be much higher over=20

here.
Would you know if we are allowed to purchase US=20

software?

Also, here is another scenario since you've been so
helpful:


Thanks,Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I am looking at one cd right now. It is a
Gateway "Operating System --=20
Windows XP -- Home Edition" cd. It is not a hologram=20

cd. I
do own the hologram cds as well. And all came with a=20

COA.
In regards to the
price of Windows XP Professional, it sell for $299 at
Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?
id=3D1051806637688&skuId=3D4272307&type=3Dproduct

And Windows XP Home is $199. Then you tack on another
$199 for the
Professional upgrade. That $400 plus tax right there.
Hope that helps!

--=20
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in=20

message
...
Can you elaborate please - in reference to rep not
knowing
what he was talking about? Are you saying that OEM
sources can be burned onto CD? According to the
Microsoft
website all Windows products must come with both a:=20

COA
and hologram CD, period.

In regards to buying XP Pro full version - this is=20

close
to $450.00 + tax by itself, and then we still need to
buy
the upgrade version at $300.00 + tax (total $800.00)=20

to
put into second computer. We don't think that the 2nd
computer needs Pro as well, so we thought why not buy
the
full version of Home for $300.00 and then by Pro=20

upgrade
for $300.00 ($600.00). Want to do everything=20

properly,
but looking to save some money as we might be out the
$160.00 as well for the burned OEM version that our
computer guy sold to us. Looking at all suggestions,
thanks.

Please explain your Microsoft reference, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP Pro
instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time, and=20

less
hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to my
actual computer guy
(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't
purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is that
the
rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never going=20

to
get
awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

--=20
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in
message
...
Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually=20

we
are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our=20

money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new=20

Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version)
from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This=20

way
we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not
have
any illegal software. It means that we will have=20

to
wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has
to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft=20

today
told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of=20

course
we
all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission=20

from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs.
Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some of
your
posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must
say
that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off,
let
me
say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have=20

figured it
out,
the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only=20

time
you
will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores=20

or
from a
computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer
guy.
Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp=20

from
him,
you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new=20

windows
xp
cd
on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem=20

is
not
the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new
computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home
edition
on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this=20

can be
done
without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade=20

windows
xp
professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are
planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer,=20

then
no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run=20

into
clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I
replace
there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to
install
windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that
this
product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft
and
they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or=20

so
in
the past year.

--=20
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote=20

in
message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our
Windows
XP
software problem, so here is another question.=20

We
have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new=20

computer,
and
Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's
question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd
computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base=20

in
order
to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have=20

Pro
and
one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and=20

upgrade
version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger


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  #13  
Old July 29th 04, 02:19 PM
Alex Nichol
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Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

tiger wrote:

Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version) from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?


If you get an Upgrade CD you need some legitimate qualifying product to
complete the license - that might be an old win98 CD for example.
Provided you have that to sustain the license you should be able
technically to install a Pro Upgrade CD over the questionable Home by
running the Upgrade *from* the existing Home system

--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)
  #14  
Old July 29th 04, 02:36 PM
tiger
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Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

Thanks! I just finally read through the EULA and now I
understand. I confused myself and it makes total sense now
that the Home Ed. would become part of the upgrade - hence
the word "upgrade." Duh! It's mean a rough couple of days
here with computer problems, so thanks for pointing that
out. I guess we're back at square one!

Tiger
-----Original Message-----
That's a breach of the EULA, which you can read by typing

eula.txt into Start Run. Anything upgraded becomes part of
the upgraded product.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...88392635123.ht

ml

"tiger" wrote in

message ...
More clarification:

1 new computer - want to buy Home Ed. and use as a base

to
upgrade Pro (so this computer will have Home Ed. on it
only as a means to upgrade to Pro). Therefore this
computer will use COA from Pro version.

2nd old computer - want to install the Home Ed. into

this
computer and use Home Ed. as main os. This computer

will
use COA from Home Ed.

I guess I'm asking if I can just install the Home Ed.

as a
base into new computer, without registering, in order

to
then install Pro version. I will then reinstall Home

Ed.
into 2nd computer, but register using the COA that came
with it.

Do you follow? Tiger


-----Original Message-----
Yeah, I kind of missed the Canadian part... Really, I

am
not sure about
purchasing software from the US. I do not see a reason

why you cannot.

Can I buy 1 full version of Home Ed. and 1 Home

upgrade
and use these on both of my computers (2 different

COAs
on
2 different computers)?

Do you mean 1 full version of home ed. and 1 pro

upgrade
on the same pc.
Yes, can do that without a problem...

Good Luck!
--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
Thanks - you might have missed in my other post that

I
am
Canadian, so the prices seem to be much higher over

here.
Would you know if we are allowed to purchase US

software?

Also, here is another scenario since you've been so
helpful:


Thanks,Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I am looking at one cd right now. It is a
Gateway "Operating System --
Windows XP -- Home Edition" cd. It is not a

hologram
cd. I
do own the hologram cds as well. And all came with

a
COA.
In regards to the
price of Windows XP Professional, it sell for $299

at
Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?
id=1051806637688&skuId=4272307&type=product

And Windows XP Home is $199. Then you tack on

another
$199 for the
Professional upgrade. That $400 plus tax right

there.
Hope that helps!

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in

message
...
Can you elaborate please - in reference to rep not
knowing
what he was talking about? Are you saying that

OEM
sources can be burned onto CD? According to the
Microsoft
website all Windows products must come with both

a:
COA
and hologram CD, period.

In regards to buying XP Pro full version - this

is
close
to $450.00 + tax by itself, and then we still

need to
buy
the upgrade version at $300.00 + tax (total

$800.00)
to
put into second computer. We don't think that the

2nd
computer needs Pro as well, so we thought why not

buy
the
full version of Home for $300.00 and then by Pro

upgrade
for $300.00 ($600.00). Want to do everything

properly,
but looking to save some money as we might be out

the
$160.00 as well for the burned OEM version that

our
computer guy sold to us. Looking at all

suggestions,
thanks.

Please explain your Microsoft reference, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP

Pro
instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time,

and
less
hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to

my
actual computer guy
(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't
purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is

that
the
rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never

going
to
get
awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote

in
message
...
Thanks for your time. Just to clarify -

Actually
we
are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us

our
money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new

Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro

version)
from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy.

This
way
we
don't have to worry about anything and we will

not
have
any illegal software. It means that we will

have
to
wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it

has
to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info,

Microsoft
today
told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of

course
we
all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get

permission
from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs.
Thanks again, Tiger

-----Original Message-----
I remember reading and, I believe answer some

of
your
posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I

must
say
that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First

off,
let
me
say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have

figured it
out,
the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The

only
time
you
will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in

stores
or
from a
computer company
like you thought you did with your last

computer
guy.
Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows

xp
from
him,
you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new

windows
xp
cd
on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The

problem
is
not
the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and

new
computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP

home
edition
on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this

can be
done
without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade

windows
xp
professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you

are
planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new

computer,
then
no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I

run
into
clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I
replace
there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key

to
install
windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me

that
this
product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of

Microsoft
and
they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times

or
so
in
the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger"

wrote
in
message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with

our
Windows
XP
software problem, so here is another

question.
We
have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new

computer,
and
Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's
question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on

2nd
computer,
and then install it on new computer as a

base
in
order
to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will

have
Pro
and
one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and

upgrade
version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger


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  #15  
Old July 29th 04, 04:09 PM
Michael D. Alligood
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

I remember reading and, I believe answer some of your posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must say that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off, let me say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it out, the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time you will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or from a computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer guy. Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from him, you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows xp cd on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is not the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home edition on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be done without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows xp professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I replace there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to install windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that this product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft and they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so in the past year.

--
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, A+, Network+,
i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
"tiger" wrote in message
...
We have received lots of help tonight with our Windows XP
software problem, so here is another question. We have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer, and Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in order to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro and one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger



 




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