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Old September 12th 05, 02:59 PM
Bob Brannon
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Default windows security center

Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my =
computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying =
Norton Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it =
is gone once startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason =
Windows is not starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that =
for the short time until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is =
there some way I can "force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or =
is there some other way to troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon


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Old September 13th 05, 01:29 AM
FrankV
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I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red but
I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every
boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this
happens again a few times.

Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active when
this problem is happpening.

Frank



"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my
computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton
Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once
startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not
starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time
until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can
"force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to
troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon



  #3  
Old September 13th 05, 03:28 PM
Bob Brannon
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I do not have ZoneAlarm. Maybe this isn't a problem if my DSL isn't =
running before NAV is started. Don't know how to tell that because =
startup only takes about a minute.


"FrankV" wrote in message =
...
I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red =
but=20
I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every=20
boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this=20
happens again a few times.

Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active =
when=20
this problem is happpening.

Frank



"Bob Brannon" wrote in message=20
...
Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my=20
computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying =
Norton=20
Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone =
once=20
startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not=20
starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short =
time=20
until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I =
can=20
"force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other =
way to=20
troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon



  #4  
Old September 14th 05, 01:18 AM
FrankV
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Startup should be 20 or 30 seconds, not a minute. My startup increase to
about a minute only in the situation where NAV is red marked until ZA runs
(which is always the last program to run).

Frank

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I do not have ZoneAlarm. Maybe this isn't a problem if my DSL isn't running
before NAV is started. Don't know how to tell that because startup only
takes about a minute.


"FrankV" wrote in message
...
I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red but
I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every
boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this
happens again a few times.

Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active when
this problem is happpening.

Frank



"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my
computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton
Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once
startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not
starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time
until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can
"force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to
troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon




  #5  
Old September 14th 05, 02:28 PM
Brigitte
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I also have the same problem w/ my XP...
How can I install (or get) ZoneAlarm?
I am wondering if this problem is preventing me from
accessing secure sites on Internet Explorer. Any advice?

"FrankV" wrote:

I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red but
I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every
boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this
happens again a few times.

Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active when
this problem is happpening.

Frank



"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my
computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton
Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once
startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not
starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time
until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can
"force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to
troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon




  #6  
Old September 14th 05, 10:04 PM
FrankV
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Free version of ZoneAlarm is at
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/conten...btop nav_zass

Frank

"Brigitte" wrote in message
...
I also have the same problem w/ my XP...
How can I install (or get) ZoneAlarm?
I am wondering if this problem is preventing me from
accessing secure sites on Internet Explorer. Any advice?

"FrankV" wrote:

I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red
but
I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every
boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this
happens again a few times.

Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active
when
this problem is happpening.

Frank



"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my
computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying
Norton
Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone
once
startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not
starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time
until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I
can
"force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way
to
troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon






  #7  
Old September 14th 05, 11:36 PM
jonah
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:59:37 -0600, "Bob Brannon"
wrote:

Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can "force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon


Bob,

As long as your NAV runs OK don't worry about the security alert or
the starting order just ensure its updated correctly via live update.
You know enough about security to not need nanny nag reminders about
AV updates and such, switch off the alerts in Control Panel that will
kill the bubble reminder and keep your eye on security yourself.

Frank

if your NAV is not running / intermittant and / or won't start you
need to get it re-installed its the only way to fix Norton Stuff. This
is not as easy as it sounds you cannot uninstall Norton sucessfully
every time via Add / Remove Programs you have to go to Symantecs
Support site and get the uninstallation instructions and app if
applicable for your flavour of NAV. Last time I saw this was
particular Norton balls up was 12 months ago and it was as I recall
caused by a conflict with Real Player 10 that time, one of a great
many problems NAV has. I would advise getting rid of it altogether
rather than re-install it and using AVG (free) or NOD32 (pay) Trawl a
few security NGs and you will lose count of the number of times Norton
comes up causing problems very quickly, that should tell you all you
need to know.

http://www.grisoft.com/doc/1

http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm

Brigitte

NAV will not stop you getting to secure sites, this is more likely to
be Firewall Settings or Malware Infection.

Check this

http://www.duxcw.com/faq/win/xp/secure.htm

Jonah

  #8  
Old September 16th 05, 05:27 PM
Bob Brannon
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Jonah,

How do I switch off alerts? I cannot find that option anywhere and help =
doesn't tell me anything.

"jonah" wrote in message =
...
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:59:37 -0600, "Bob Brannon"
wrote:

Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my =

computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying =
Norton Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it =
is gone once startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason =
Windows is not starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that =
for the short time until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is =
there some way I can "force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or =
is there some other way to troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon


Bob,

As long as your NAV runs OK don't worry about the security alert or
the starting order just ensure its updated correctly via live update.
You know enough about security to not need nanny nag reminders about
AV updates and such, switch off the alerts in Control Panel that will
kill the bubble reminder and keep your eye on security yourself.

Frank

if your NAV is not running / intermittant and / or won't start you
need to get it re-installed its the only way to fix Norton Stuff. This
is not as easy as it sounds you cannot uninstall Norton sucessfully
every time via Add / Remove Programs you have to go to Symantecs
Support site and get the uninstallation instructions and app if
applicable for your flavour of NAV. Last time I saw this was
particular Norton balls up was 12 months ago and it was as I recall
caused by a conflict with Real Player 10 that time, one of a great
many problems NAV has. I would advise getting rid of it altogether
rather than re-install it and using AVG (free) or NOD32 (pay) Trawl a
few security NGs and you will lose count of the number of times Norton
comes up causing problems very quickly, that should tell you all you
need to know.

http://www.grisoft.com/doc/1

http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm

Brigitte

NAV will not stop you getting to secure sites, this is more likely to
be Firewall Settings or Malware Infection.=20

Check this

http://www.duxcw.com/faq/win/xp/secure.htm

Jonah

  #9  
Old September 16th 05, 05:51 PM
Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)
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Bob Brannon wrote:

Jonah,

How do I switch off alerts? I cannot find that option
anywhere and help doesn't tell me anything.

Hi,

Control Panel/Security Center, click on the "Change the Way
Security Center Notifies Me" link in the left pane.


If the "Change the Way Security Center Notifies Me" doesn't stick
when you reboot, or you want to disable the Security Center totally,
you can do the following:

Start/Run -- services.msc

Find "Security Center" in the list, double click on it, set
"Startup type" to Disabled.


Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883792



--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...r/default.mspx
  #10  
Old September 16th 05, 06:57 PM
Bob Brannon
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Thanks!

"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote in message =
...
Bob Brannon wrote:

Jonah,
=20
How do I switch off alerts? I cannot find that option
anywhere and help doesn't tell me anything.
=20

Hi,

Control Panel/Security Center, click on the "Change the Way
Security Center Notifies Me" link in the left pane.


If the "Change the Way Security Center Notifies Me" doesn't stick
when you reboot, or you want to disable the Security Center totally,
you can do the following:

Start/Run -- services.msc

Find "Security Center" in the list, double click on it, set
"Startup type" to Disabled.


Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=3D883792



--=20
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...r/default.mspx
  #11  
Old October 17th 05, 04:24 AM
Mike Ruby
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Default windows security center

Periodically I get pop up window that states "Your computer is at risk in the
following areas:

-virus protection is off

There's a check box the states:

To prevent duplicate security status alerts, use my existing Norton product
alerts and turn off redundant Windows Security Center alerts.

Nortons is turned on, the alert appears to be from symantec.

Any ideas on how to get rid of this window?

"Bob Brannon" wrote:

Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can "force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon



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Old November 19th 05, 01:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Default windows security center

I have the problem of security centre turned off. When i run "services.msc"
there is NO security centre icon on the page.
--
ajrigby


"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:

Bob Brannon wrote:

Jonah,

How do I switch off alerts? I cannot find that option
anywhere and help doesn't tell me anything.

Hi,

Control Panel/Security Center, click on the "Change the Way
Security Center Notifies Me" link in the left pane.


If the "Change the Way Security Center Notifies Me" doesn't stick
when you reboot, or you want to disable the Security Center totally,
you can do the following:

Start/Run -- services.msc

Find "Security Center" in the list, double click on it, set
"Startup type" to Disabled.


Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883792



--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...r/default.mspx

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Old December 16th 05, 09:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Default windows security center



"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:

Bob Brannon wrote:

Jonah,

How do I switch off alerts? I cannot find that option
anywhere and help doesn't tell me anything.

Hi,

Control Panel/Security Center, click on the "Change the Way
Security Center Notifies Me" link in the left pane.


If the "Change the Way Security Center Notifies Me" doesn't stick
when you reboot, or you want to disable the Security Center totally,
you can do the following:

Start/Run -- services.msc

Find "Security Center" in the list, double click on it, set
"Startup type" to Disabled.


Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883792



--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...r/default.mspx

My security center has been turned off ever since I used my original install
disk to check the system for problems. When I go to SERVICES.MSC, fine the
SECURITY SYSTEM, and try to start it, it says Error 1083:the executable
progrram that this service is configured to run in does not implement this
service. Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks Rob

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Old December 17th 05, 02:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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I used my original install disk to check the system for problems.

Re-apply SP2. If that does not help, see:

"Error 1083" while attempting to start the Security Center service in
Windows XP SP2:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/wscsvcfix.htm

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User

Windows XP Troubleshooting
http://www.winhelponline.com


"robkurz" wrote in message
...


"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:

Bob Brannon wrote:

Jonah,

How do I switch off alerts? I cannot find that option
anywhere and help doesn't tell me anything.

Hi,

Control Panel/Security Center, click on the "Change the Way
Security Center Notifies Me" link in the left pane.


If the "Change the Way Security Center Notifies Me" doesn't stick
when you reboot, or you want to disable the Security Center totally,
you can do the following:

Start/Run -- services.msc

Find "Security Center" in the list, double click on it, set
"Startup type" to Disabled.


Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883792



--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...r/default.mspx

My security center has been turned off ever since I used my original install
disk to check the system for problems. When I go to SERVICES.MSC, fine the
SECURITY SYSTEM, and try to start it, it says Error 1083:the executable
progrram that this service is configured to run in does not implement this
service. Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks Rob


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Old December 18th 05, 12:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Default windows security center

same exact thing is happening to me... can anyone help????

 




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