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Old July 6th 13, 06:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
masonc
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
MasonC
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Old July 6th 13, 07:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
jim
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

masonc wrote:
I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
MasonC


Ccleaner from Piriform .
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Old July 6th 13, 10:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

Hello masonc,

I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324
problems. Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)


To buy a product from that same company ? Ofcourse not.

Quite likely its largely Scareware(tm) (like counting each suspect cookie as
a seperate "problem").

Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on
my old XP?


Only a single one: Reinstall XP from scratch (and apply the security patches
ofcourse)

After that create a full backup of that drive so you can restore your 'puter
to a known-to-be-clean state when some infestment actually occurs.

For laughs: run that "SpeedyPC" product on a fully patched and updated
install and see how many "problems" it (still) finds.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
masonc schreef in berichtnieuws
...
I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
MasonC



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Old July 6th 13, 11:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
David H. Lipman
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

From: "masonc"

I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
MasonC


Crapware will find "errors and problems" on a PC where the OS was just installed.

No, don't trust it and REMOVE the software ASAP.


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Old July 6th 13, 05:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
philo [_3_]
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

On 07/06/2013 01:46 AM, jim wrote:
masonc wrote:
I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)


No , I am sure it's a scam

Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
MasonC


Ccleaner from Piriform .



yep.
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Old July 6th 13, 06:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Stef
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

masonc wrote:

I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)


No.

Instead download and run the free versions of Malwarebytes
Antimalware, and SuperAntiSpyware to clean your system of trojans,
viruses, spyware, adware, etc. They are both legit companies. Run them
both on a regular basis--at least once a month--to keep your system
malware free.

Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?


I use CCleaner to clean my system of old files, trash, etc. that
accumulates on Windows' system. It is similar to XP's Disk Cleaner,
just more thorough. It also includes a few useful tools.


Stef
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Old July 6th 13, 09:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Al Sparber-PVII
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

masonc wrote:
I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
MasonC


Of course you should trust this software called SpeedyPC. It is the
best known software that can speed up your machine.

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Old July 6th 13, 11:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
masonc
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:19:35 -0700, masonc
wrote:

I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
MasonC


OK, thanks. I ran Ccleaner, seems to be legit, removed a lot of
stuff.

Next: It gave me "Maxperforma Optimizer"
Should I run that?
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Old July 7th 13, 02:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
philo[_3_]
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

On 07/06/2013 05:21 PM, masonc wrote:
Maxperforma Optimizer"




It's malware, be sure NOT to install it.
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Old July 9th 13, 06:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
R.Wieser
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

Tecknomage wrote:

One caution with browser cleanup, DO NOT DELETE COOKIES. They are
necessary for sites you normally logon to recognize you have an
account (banks, game forums, your blog account, etc.)


Any organisation depending on plain-text data stored on the users machine
for verification of identity should be sued, shot, and than beheaded to make
sure they understand that its criminaly stupid to do so.

Cookies *may* store some persistent data (only when the user permits it),
but only for trivial stuff (like preferences).

the ID is NOT your account number


It does not matter. If that number is needed to identify yourself with
than its *bad*. Anyone with access to the computer (in person, but also
thru viri, trojan-horses and other malware anyone ?) could copy them and use
them elsewhere.

Hm, it would even mean you could not access your bank in a so-called
"private browsing" session, and that would be stupid (to say the least).

... but they DO NOT HAVE ANY ACTUAL ACCOUNT
INFORMATION, just an random ID and other data


If its a random ID a new one can be generated next time you log in. If
that is not possible the ID is actually linked to you, which means that the
"random" might be true in the generation of it, but certainly not in its
usage. In short: In this context its would be untrue/false statement.

As for the "other data" ? Could that perhaps also be some other stuff to
identify you by ? Maybe your full name and address "protected" by some
ROT13 encoding ? :-)

In short: Delete those cookies, and sue the cr*p outof anyone who denies you
access because of them missing.

Ofcourse, if you could not care less about your privacy I would say you
should keep all cookies a website, company or (google-sourced) advertisement
gives you, so you will be easy to follow on the web, no matter which website
you visit ...

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
Tecknomage schreef in berichtnieuws
...
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:19:35 -0700, masonc
wrote:

Q I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Q Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
Q Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
Q MasonC

First off, disregard any claim that "cleaners" speed up your PC.
That's NOT what they are actually for, the claim is a marketing ploy.

What 'cleaners' actually do is remove missing entries in your Registry
due to poor uninstallers or entries made by temporary
installs/updates. They also remove references to missing folders and
files, and shortcuts that refer to missing files. Clean such thing as
you ".tmp" files, browser caches, Windows log files, etc.

One caution with browser cleanup, DO NOT DELETE COOKIES. They are
necessary for sites you normally logon to recognize you have an
account (banks, game forums, your blog account, etc.) but they DO NOT
HAVE ANY ACTUAL ACCOUNT INFORMATION, just an random ID and other data
that tells the site you have an account (the ID is NOT your account
number).


snip



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Old July 10th 13, 05:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
masonc
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Default PC cleaner? Is there a good PC "cleaner"?

On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:09:44 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote:

Tecknomage wrote:

One caution with browser cleanup, DO NOT DELETE COOKIES. They are
necessary for sites you normally logon to recognize you have an
account (banks, game forums, your blog account, etc.)


I have three bank accounts and various similar links.

My beloved browser, Opera, facilitates removal of "private" data,
including all cookies. I regularly DELETE ALL COOKIES.
I have suffered no perceptible bad consequences.

So there ! Bye bye.

-----------------------



Any organisation depending on plain-text data stored on the users machine
for verification of identity should be sued, shot, and than beheaded to make
sure they understand that its criminaly stupid to do so.

Cookies *may* store some persistent data (only when the user permits it),
but only for trivial stuff (like preferences).

the ID is NOT your account number


It does not matter. If that number is needed to identify yourself with
than its *bad*. Anyone with access to the computer (in person, but also
thru viri, trojan-horses and other malware anyone ?) could copy them and use
them elsewhere.

Hm, it would even mean you could not access your bank in a so-called
"private browsing" session, and that would be stupid (to say the least).

... but they DO NOT HAVE ANY ACTUAL ACCOUNT
INFORMATION, just an random ID and other data


If its a random ID a new one can be generated next time you log in. If
that is not possible the ID is actually linked to you, which means that the
"random" might be true in the generation of it, but certainly not in its
usage. In short: In this context its would be untrue/false statement.

As for the "other data" ? Could that perhaps also be some other stuff to
identify you by ? Maybe your full name and address "protected" by some
ROT13 encoding ? :-)

In short: Delete those cookies, and sue the cr*p outof anyone who denies you
access because of them missing.

Ofcourse, if you could not care less about your privacy I would say you
should keep all cookies a website, company or (google-sourced) advertisement
gives you, so you will be easy to follow on the web, no matter which website
you visit ...

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
Tecknomage schreef in berichtnieuws
...
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:19:35 -0700, masonc
wrote:

Q I ran "SpeedyPC" and it claimed to find 1324 problems.
Q Should I trust it? (I didn't buy it.)
Q Is there such a "cleaner" that I could trust on my old XP?
Q MasonC

First off, disregard any claim that "cleaners" speed up your PC.
That's NOT what they are actually for, the claim is a marketing ploy.

What 'cleaners' actually do is remove missing entries in your Registry
due to poor uninstallers or entries made by temporary
installs/updates. They also remove references to missing folders and
files, and shortcuts that refer to missing files. Clean such thing as
you ".tmp" files, browser caches, Windows log files, etc.

One caution with browser cleanup, DO NOT DELETE COOKIES. They are
necessary for sites you normally logon to recognize you have an
account (banks, game forums, your blog account, etc.) but they DO NOT
HAVE ANY ACTUAL ACCOUNT INFORMATION, just an random ID and other data
that tells the site you have an account (the ID is NOT your account
number).


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