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  #31  
Old April 7th 16, 11:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 4/7/2016 5:26 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:

I then went looking for an office suit for home use I tried Open Office
(It has been some years ago) which I understand has become LibreOffice.


No, both products are available. LibreOffice was a fork of OpenOffice, and
according to most comments I've read, LO has become the better product.

will it run the test sheet that I proposed in a couple of seconds?
normal curve

Or is it still excruciatingly slow.
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Old April 8th 16, 01:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Beauregard T. Shagnasty[_2_]
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Keith Nuttle wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
I then went looking for an office suit for home use I tried Open
Office (It has been some years ago) which I understand has become
LibreOffice.


No, both products are available. LibreOffice was a fork of OpenOffice,
and according to most comments I've read, LO has become the better
product.

will it run the test sheet that I proposed in a couple of seconds?
normal curve

Or is it still excruciatingly slow.


I have no idea. Since I don't have such a spreadsheet, you will have to
try it yourself.

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  #33  
Old April 8th 16, 02:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 07 Apr 2016, Keith Nuttle wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

will it run the test sheet that I proposed in a couple of seconds?
normal curve

Or is it still excruciatingly slow.


I don't find LibreOffice Calc to be slow, though I haven't stress
tested it. I have found some disappointing differences in functions
between it and Excel that would make interoperability a problem.
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Old April 8th 16, 02:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 4/6/16 1:56 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-04-06 11:27, philo wrote:
If one is working an a group project and a document is passed back and
forth between several people, it's important that all use the same word
processor, even if using MS-Word...all versions should be the same.


I would certainly mandate that in a work setting, if I were still
working for living. But you can't do it in a volunteer group or club (I
belong to several), nor among friends and family. That's why I recommend
RTF and/or PDF as universal formats.


Wolf and philo, I have to humbly disagree with it being necessary for
everyone to have the same word processor. 20 years ago, I would have
agreed.

Today it's simply not necessary 100% of the time. There may be some
situations where it's needed, but I suspect in some of those, it's
unwillingness to do things a new way. No, I'm not talking the cloud and
something like Google Docs. You're not even restricted to the same OS,
the members of your team can have any OS they desire, use any word
processor they desire. (Hint: For all members of the team but one, a
word processor is NOT required.)

It would be a long message to spell it out, so won't do it tonight. But
if you or anyone wishes to know how I'd do it, just request the answer. :-)

IMO it's long past time to agree on and standardise a handful of
universal formats for all document creation programs to follow. That's
what ISO is for. Fact is, PDF and HTML have become de facto
international standards because of the web, so I don't see a problem.
AFAIK, all major processors can "print to PDF", so there's really no
problem. Just add HTML to the Save AS list.

Anyway, I think that agreement on standard formats, and default output
to both native and standard formats would obviate OP's need for a doc
viewer. I always Save As in at least two formats when creating a
document for distribution. Would be handy if I could just tick a couple
of boxes and leave it up to the program.

And that last paragraph brings bends this subthread back into the main
topic. :-)

Have a good day,



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Old April 8th 16, 02:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 4/6/16 3:32 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 4/6/2016 4:28 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
s|b wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Sure. It's the office suite called LibreOffice, and it is free. People
have been mentioning it for years.

http://www.libreoffice.org/

Overkill, but it'll do the job (for free).


Yes, overkill for reading a simple document, but my reply was also
addressing the OP's statement of "and can not afford the cost of a MS
subscription of MS office." which you snipped.

So with LibreOffice, he gets his "office" at no cost.

The OP uses WordPerfect because of the access to the reveal codes.
These codes have saved me many hours in troubleshooting formatting
problems. In MS Word when things really go bad, the only solution is to
copy the document to an ASCII word process. Then rebuilding the
formatting of the document from the ASCII text.


Before going the ASCII route, open Styles and Formatting, try the Clear
All option.


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Old April 8th 16, 01:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 4/7/2016 9:52 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 4/6/16 3:32 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 4/6/2016 4:28 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
s|b wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Sure. It's the office suite called LibreOffice, and it is free. People
have been mentioning it for years.

http://www.libreoffice.org/

Overkill, but it'll do the job (for free).

Yes, overkill for reading a simple document, but my reply was also
addressing the OP's statement of "and can not afford the cost of a MS
subscription of MS office." which you snipped.

So with LibreOffice, he gets his "office" at no cost.

The OP uses WordPerfect because of the access to the reveal codes.
These codes have saved me many hours in troubleshooting formatting
problems. In MS Word when things really go bad, the only solution is to
copy the document to an ASCII word process. Then rebuilding the
formatting of the document from the ASCII text.


Before going the ASCII route, open Styles and Formatting, try the Clear
All option.


It has been over ten years ago that I made the decision to purchase
WordPerfect for my personal use, I was in the middle of upgrade dozen
of old MSWord procedures at the company I worked for, that had been
edited over the years into the version I had. I spent too many hours
fighting MS Word to correct formating problems. After a couple of real
problems, I realized the most cost effective route to correct the
problem was the ACSII route.
  #37  
Old April 8th 16, 04:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Tim Slattery[_2_]
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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:

Keith Nuttle wrote:

I then went looking for an office suit for home use I tried Open Office
(It has been some years ago) which I understand has become LibreOffice.


No, both products are available. LibreOffice was a fork of OpenOffice, and
according to most comments I've read, LO has become the better product.


OpenOffice was developed by Sun. When they were acquired by Oracle, a
bunch of developers forked LibreOffice, because they didn't trust
Oracle to run an Open Source project. Some time later, Oracle gave
OpenOffice to the Apache foundation. So now both are available.

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