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Old October 4th 09, 09:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Dayna
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Default XP is too large

C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean this out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is there a way
to clean this out?
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  #2  
Old October 4th 09, 10:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Shenan Stanley
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Default XP is too large

Dayna wrote:
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean
this out to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is
there a way to clean this out?


See what is taking up the space and how the drive is partitioned.

Start button -- RUN (no RUN, press the "Windows Key" + R) -- type in:
compmgmt.msc
-- Click OK.

Answer things in the affirmative until the window opens. In the computer
management window, left side, locate and expand "Storage" and select (click
on) "Disk Management". That should bring up a list on the right of your
disks.

Find your drive(s) in that list and scroll left/right to see the
other columns and give the "Total" and "Free" space here.

Looking at the picture on the right side, bottom part of the Disks - how
is each one partitioned (divided up into sections)?

Now that you know how things are partitioned and how much space you should
have (in total) - let's cleanup.

Download/install this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

After installing, do the following:

Start button -- RUN -- type in:
"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
-- Click OK.

(The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing should be exact.)

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
( Particularly of interest here - #4 )
( Alternative: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm )

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 64MB and 128MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS - Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Other ways to free up space..

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

In the end - a standard Windows XP installation with all sorts of extras
will not likely be above about 4.5GB to 9GB in size. If you have more space
than that (likely do on a modern machine) and most of it seems to be used -
likely you need to move *your stuff* off and/or find a better way to manage
it.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


  #3  
Old October 4th 09, 10:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Shenan Stanley
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Posts: 10,523
Default XP is too large

Dayna wrote:
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean
this out to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is
there a way to clean this out?


See what is taking up the space and how the drive is partitioned.

Start button -- RUN (no RUN, press the "Windows Key" + R) -- type in:
compmgmt.msc
-- Click OK.

Answer things in the affirmative until the window opens. In the computer
management window, left side, locate and expand "Storage" and select (click
on) "Disk Management". That should bring up a list on the right of your
disks.

Find your drive(s) in that list and scroll left/right to see the
other columns and give the "Total" and "Free" space here.

Looking at the picture on the right side, bottom part of the Disks - how
is each one partitioned (divided up into sections)?

Now that you know how things are partitioned and how much space you should
have (in total) - let's cleanup.

Download/install this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

After installing, do the following:

Start button -- RUN -- type in:
"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
-- Click OK.

(The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing should be exact.)

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
( Particularly of interest here - #4 )
( Alternative: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm )

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 64MB and 128MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS - Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Other ways to free up space..

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

In the end - a standard Windows XP installation with all sorts of extras
will not likely be above about 4.5GB to 9GB in size. If you have more space
than that (likely do on a modern machine) and most of it seems to be used -
likely you need to move *your stuff* off and/or find a better way to manage
it.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


  #4  
Old October 4th 09, 10:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Ken Blake, MVP
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Default XP is too large

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:41:01 -0700, Dayna
wrote:

C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean this out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is there a way
to clean this out?



Shenan Stanley has given you lots of good advice to reclaim some of
the space. But I wanted to add the following:

These days 22.5GB is not a very great size, and if you badly need some
of that space back, you almost certainly just don't have enough disk
space.

Whatever you do to save some disk space will just be a stopgap
measure. You can save some now, but very soon you will be very short
again. The real solution to your problem is to buy a larger disk drive
second or a second one. Fortunately they are very inexpensive now.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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  #5  
Old October 4th 09, 10:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Ken Blake, MVP
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Posts: 10,402
Default XP is too large

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:41:01 -0700, Dayna
wrote:

C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean this out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is there a way
to clean this out?



Shenan Stanley has given you lots of good advice to reclaim some of
the space. But I wanted to add the following:

These days 22.5GB is not a very great size, and if you badly need some
of that space back, you almost certainly just don't have enough disk
space.

Whatever you do to save some disk space will just be a stopgap
measure. You can save some now, but very soon you will be very short
again. The real solution to your problem is to buy a larger disk drive
second or a second one. Fortunately they are very inexpensive now.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
  #6  
Old October 4th 09, 11:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
JS
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Default XP is too large


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean this
out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is there a way
to clean this out?


Low Disk Space
How to free up hard drive space on your Laptop or PC
http://www.pagestart.com/lowdiskspace01.html

The article covers all those updates and a lot more!

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


  #7  
Old October 4th 09, 11:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
JS
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Posts: 6,475
Default XP is too large


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean this
out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is there a way
to clean this out?


Low Disk Space
How to free up hard drive space on your Laptop or PC
http://www.pagestart.com/lowdiskspace01.html

The article covers all those updates and a lot more!

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


  #8  
Old October 5th 09, 01:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
AJR
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Posts: 804
Default XP is too large

Dayna from your post "...C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB ...." - Is it
"Windows" or did you mean the "C" drive?


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean this
out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is there a way
to clean this out?



  #9  
Old October 5th 09, 01:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
AJR
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Posts: 804
Default XP is too large

Dayna from your post "...C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB ...." - Is it
"Windows" or did you mean the "C" drive?


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean this
out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is there a way
to clean this out?



  #10  
Old October 5th 09, 01:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
peter
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Posts: 964
Default XP is too large

Considering that a drive cannot grow but a folder on the drive can
what do you think he means???

peter

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"AJR" wrote in message
...
Dayna from your post "...C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB ...." - Is it
"Windows" or did you mean the "C" drive?


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean this
out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is there a
way
to clean this out?



  #11  
Old October 5th 09, 01:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
peter
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Posts: 964
Default XP is too large

Considering that a drive cannot grow but a folder on the drive can
what do you think he means???

peter

--
If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate
or disruptive,please ignore it.
If you dont know how to ignore a posting complain
to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-)

"AJR" wrote in message
...
Dayna from your post "...C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB ...." - Is it
"Windows" or did you mean the "C" drive?


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean this
out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is there a
way
to clean this out?



  #12  
Old October 5th 09, 09:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Olórin[_2_]
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Posts: 917
Default XP is too large

OP could have meant the *used* space on C:\.

peter wrote:
Considering that a drive cannot grow but a folder on the drive can
what do you think he means???

peter


"AJR" wrote in message
...
Dayna from your post "...C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB ...." - Is
it "Windows" or did you mean the "C" drive?


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean
this out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is
there a way
to clean this out?



  #13  
Old October 5th 09, 09:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Olorin
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Posts: 323
Default XP is too large


OP could have meant the *used* space on C:\.

peter wrote:
Considering that a drive cannot grow but a folder on the drive can
what do you think he means???

peter


"AJR" wrote in message
...
Dayna from your post "...C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB ...." - Is
it "Windows" or did you mean the "C" drive?


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean
this out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is
there a way
to clean this out?



  #14  
Old October 5th 09, 03:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
peter
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Posts: 964
Default XP is too large

"C:/Windows has grown to...."
that's what the OP said.............
pretty specific to me

peter

--
If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate
or disruptive,please ignore it.
If you dont know how to ignore a posting complain
to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-)

"Olórin" wrote in message
...
OP could have meant the *used* space on C:\.

peter wrote:
Considering that a drive cannot grow but a folder on the drive can
what do you think he means???

peter


"AJR" wrote in message
...
Dayna from your post "...C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB ...." - Is
it "Windows" or did you mean the "C" drive?


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean
this out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is
there a way
to clean this out?



  #15  
Old October 5th 09, 03:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
peter
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Posts: 964
Default XP is too large

"C:/Windows has grown to...."
that's what the OP said.............
pretty specific to me

peter

--
If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate
or disruptive,please ignore it.
If you dont know how to ignore a posting complain
to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-)

"Olórin" wrote in message
...
OP could have meant the *used* space on C:\.

peter wrote:
Considering that a drive cannot grow but a folder on the drive can
what do you think he means???

peter


"AJR" wrote in message
...
Dayna from your post "...C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB ...." - Is
it "Windows" or did you mean the "C" drive?


"Dayna" wrote in message
...
C:/Windows has grown to 22.5 GB with 225 updates. I need to clean
this out
to reduce it's size on the hard drive. I need the space.

Do I have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything or is
there a way
to clean this out?



 




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