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Old October 25th 14, 10:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

Hello All,

I just tried to copy a 6.2 GB file onto a 16GB usb memory stick, and got an
"disk full" message. Could someone tell me what the problem is / how to
solve it ?

XPsp3

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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Old October 25th 14, 01:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
David H. Lipman
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

From: "R.Wieser"

Hello All,

I just tried to copy a 6.2 GB file onto a 16GB usb memory stick, and got
an
"disk full" message. Could someone tell me what the problem is / how to
solve it ?

XPsp3

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


How is the 16GB Flash Drive formatted ?

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Old October 25th 14, 03:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

Helo David,

How is the 16GB Flash Drive formatted ?


The format is Fat32. It does return the correct free space, both in
"windows explorer" as to a DIR command.

Regards
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
David H. Lipman schreef in berichtnieuws
...
From: "R.Wieser"

Hello All,

I just tried to copy a 6.2 GB file onto a 16GB usb memory stick, and got
an
"disk full" message. Could someone tell me what the problem is / how

to
solve it ?

XPsp3

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


How is the 16GB Flash Drive formatted ?

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Old October 25th 14, 03:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:09:17 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote:


The format is Fat32. It does return the correct free space, both in
"windows explorer" as to a DIR command.


Could it be a counterfeit flash drive?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/All-About-...7553258/g.html
http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/
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Old October 25th 14, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

Geo,

Could it be a counterfeit flash drive?


Everything is possible., I'll have to check it.

But I think David asked the right question, it just didn't register with me
until a bit later : FAT32 has a file-size limit of 4 GByte (thanks David H.
Lipman :-) .

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
Geo schreef in berichtnieuws
...
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:09:17 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote:


The format is Fat32. It does return the correct free space, both in
"windows explorer" as to a DIR command.


Could it be a counterfeit flash drive?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/All-About-...00000017755325
8/g.html
http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/



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Old October 26th 14, 01:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causesa "disk full" message ?

On 10/25/2014 8:31 AM PT, R.Wieser typed:

But I think David asked the right question, it just didn't register with me
until a bit later : FAT32 has a file-size limit of 4 GByte (thanks David H.
Lipman :-) .


That limitation says disk full error? Weird.
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Old October 26th 14, 02:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

R.Wieser wrote:

The format is Fat32. It does return the correct free space, both in
"windows explorer" as to a DIR command.


You have run into a maximum file size supported by a particular file
system.

The maximum file size in FAT32 is 4,294,967,295 bytes (4 GiB - 1). You
will have to slice up the file into multiple parts to continue using
FAT32 or convert the USB drive to NTFS.
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Old October 26th 14, 02:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?


On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:32:41 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote:

I just tried to copy a 6.2 GB file onto a 16GB usb memory stick, and got an
"disk full" message. Could someone tell me what the problem is / how to
solve it ?


Change the format to NTFS. Look he
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../ee851683.aspx

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Old October 26th 14, 07:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causesa "disk full" message ?

Ant,

That limitation says disk full error? Weird.


Yeah, that was what threw me off too. :-\

Not the first time I've been caught by MSes vague or even (as in this case)
downright wrong error messages though.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message
Ant schreef in berichtnieuws
...
On 10/25/2014 8:31 AM PT, R.Wieser typed:

But I think David asked the right question, it just didn't register with

me
until a bit later : FAT32 has a file-size limit of 4 GByte (thanks David

H.
Lipman :-) .


That limitation says disk full error? Weird.
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Old October 26th 14, 08:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

VanguardLH, Zilbandy,

...or convert the USB drive to NTFS.


Well, thats easy (or so I thought): Just reformat the stick (it was empty).

Well, not *that* easy: while the format selection was easy enough to find in
the context menu it didn't give me an NTFS option (wtf?) ....

It turns out you first you have to right-click the drive - "properties" -
tab "hardware" (yeah, Hardware!) - select the USB stick (again) -
"properties" (again) - "Policies" and than select "optimize performance"
(aka: enable caching) before the formatting-option NTFS will be available
for the stick (not that they mention that there).

You thought that that was all ? No sirree -- If you try to format the drive
thru the "disk management" console (under settings - administrative tools)
you stil won't get the NTFS option (huh?!). That one only pops up when you
right-click the drive in "file explorer" and than select format. Go figure.

Yeah, lost a bit of time because of that non-integration (selecting NTFS as
the format? Popup a message that caching will be enabled too) and
inconsistant behaviour (two non-matching "format a drive" windows). :-(

Regards,
Rudy Wieser






VanguardLH schreef in berichtnieuws
...
R.Wieser wrote:

The format is Fat32. It does return the correct free space, both in
"windows explorer" as to a DIR command.


You have run into a maximum file size supported by a particular file
system.

The maximum file size in FAT32 is 4,294,967,295 bytes (4 GiB - 1). You
will have to slice up the file into multiple parts to continue using
FAT32 or convert the USB drive to NTFS.



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Old October 26th 14, 01:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causesa "disk full" message ?

On 10/25/2014 04:32 AM, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello All,

I just tried to copy a 6.2 GB file onto a 16GB usb memory stick, and got an
"disk full" message. Could someone tell me what the problem is / how to
solve it ?

XPsp3

Regards,
Rudy Wieser





You were given the correct advice to convert the drive to NTFS or
reformat to NTFS


an alternative would be to use exFat


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
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Old October 26th 14, 02:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
David H. Lipman
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

From: "R.Wieser"

Geo,

Could it be a counterfeit flash drive?


Everything is possible., I'll have to check it.

But I think David asked the right question, it just didn't register with
me
until a bit later : FAT32 has a file-size limit of 4 GByte (thanks David
H.
Lipman :-) .

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


Excellent. I figured you knew the reason but just didn't see a connection.

By default...
* If a drive is less than 32GB then it is formatted using FAT32.
* If the drive is greater than 32GB then it is formatted using using NTFS.


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Old October 26th 14, 04:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

Hello David,

Excellent. I figured you knew the reason but just didn't see a

connection.

Its one of those bits of info I've got, but just do not encounter too often
to have it readily in the front of my mind. :-|

I could also blame a late friday evening (having a few pints) having to do
something with my slowness. :-)

Got a bit side-tracked by the not all to apropriate "disk full" message too.
:-\

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


- Origional message:
David H. Lipman schreef in berichtnieuws
...
From: "R.Wieser"

Geo,

Could it be a counterfeit flash drive?


Everything is possible., I'll have to check it.

But I think David asked the right question, it just didn't register with
me
until a bit later : FAT32 has a file-size limit of 4 GByte (thanks David
H.
Lipman :-) .

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


Excellent. I figured you knew the reason but just didn't see a

connection.

By default...
* If a drive is less than 32GB then it is formatted using FAT32.
* If the drive is greater than 32GB then it is formatted using using

NTFS.


--
Dave
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http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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Old October 26th 14, 05:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

R.Wieser wrote:
(after fixing the quoting indentation)

The format is Fat32. It does return the correct free space, both in
"windows explorer" as to a DIR command.

Zilbandy (paraphrased),

...or convert the USB drive to NTFS.

VanguardLH,

You have run into a maximum file size supported by a particular file
system.

The maximum file size in FAT32 is 4,294,967,295 bytes (4 GiB - 1). You
will have to slice up the file into multiple parts to continue using
FAT32 or convert the USB drive to NTFS.


Well, not *that* easy: while the format selection was easy enough to
find in the context menu it didn't give me an NTFS option (wtf?) ....
It turns out you first you have to right-click the drive -
"properties" - tab "hardware" (yeah, Hardware!) - select the USB
stick (again) - "properties" (again) - "Policies" and than select
"optimize performance" (aka: enable caching) before the
formatting-option NTFS will be available for the stick (not that they
mention that there).

You thought that that was all ? No sirree -- If you try to format the
drive thru the "disk management" console (under settings -
administrative tools) you stil won't get the NTFS option (huh?!).
That one only pops up when you right-click the drive in "file
explorer" and than select format. Go figure.


I/we just gave the hint, not the procedure. We wouldn't know your
expertise level and it's a waste of time to recite what someone might
already know, plus some folks take offense at you offering what they
consider simpleton advice as though you've insulted their intelligence.
If they come back and ask "how" is when more info can be provided but
this is not a chat room with instant feedback so it could be hours or
days before there are replies.

Sometimes a hint is all that is needed and the poster may not even come
back with an update after finding the solution so the respondents get no
feedback if their suggestions helped or not. There are a lot of
drive-by posts. Someone might tell you to run 'chkdsk' but figure you
knew 'chkdsk /?' to get its command-line arguments, you could look in
Windows help, or you could look it up online.

After getting a hint, and if you needed more info, you could your own
online search on, say, "format usb drive ntfs" to find:

http://www.ntfs.com/quest22.htm
http://www.ehow.com/how_6177473_form...ives-ntfs.html
http://www.online-tech-tips.com/comp...rmat-usb-ntfs/

As you see, I'm naturally verbose. Reading skills and attention spans
have waned, especially since the introduction of the Web, and many
Usenetizens get dazed or tune out when having to read more than a
hundred words. A reply like this one is beyond their communication
skills.

By the way, the Microsoft article provided by Zilbandy didn't work to
convert FAT32 to NTFS on a USB drive? I found several articles that
reinforce Zilbandy's suggestion. Or did you not even try it?
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Old October 26th 14, 05:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Copying a 6 GB file onto a 16 GB empty USB memory stick causes a "disk full" message ?

David H. Lipman wrote:

By default...
* If a drive is less than 32GB then it is formatted using FAT32.
* If the drive is greater than 32GB then it is formatted using using NTFS.


USB drives come pre-formatted using FAT32 for the widest compatibility
under different operating systems. Since FAT32 partitions can be up to
2 to 16 TiB in size (depending on sector size), pretty much all USB
drives, so far, will come with FAT32 partitioning by default. There are
a couple USB drives that come pre-formatted with NTFS but that is not
the norm.
 




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