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It's a good day to upgrade
On 03/01/2016 16:50, Slimer wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-03 2:17 AM, John Doe wrote: I wrote: Getting Windows 8 for $40 and now Windows 10 for free. Easy to understand why, because Microsoft is under humongous reverse pressure from ultraportable PCs and their operating systems. But I have a feeling it's going to effect more than the price of Windows. Unfortunately, it seems to be encouraging Microsoft to do the wrong thing. Instead of Microsoft improving the desktop operating system, Microsoft is trying harder to monopolize ultraportable PCs, and to hell with the desktop. Perhaps because ultraportable PCs are hot sellers? As far as I know, Windows 10 is an excellent compromise between those who want a desktop experience and those who want a tablet experience. My wife has one such ultraportable hybrid device and the transition from laptop to tablet is seamless. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. What kind of device does your wife have? A Surface Pro? This reminds me of the big Microsoft antitrust trial prior to 2000. That's when Windows XP came out and ended the crappy consumer versions of Windows power users had to restart several times during the day. This huge pressure on Microsoft could result in another major improvement of quality. No more sitting on its hands, at least for a while. Or maybe Microsoft is losing it. I've experienced several extremely long delays that remind me of pre-Windows XP freezing. There is also the appearance that programmers who don't know what they're doing are trying to redesign Windows. None of the old annoyances have been fixed. And the fact we have no control over updates is a huge glaring mistake. Putting the tiles on the start menu does nothing for me. All I use the Start screen for in Windows 8 is occasionally searching for a newly installed application. Meanwhile, this group is discussing Windows 10 where tiles are very well integrated. How do you use tiles on a desktop PC / notebook? Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. I will do a clean installation of Windows 8 instead. I suspect that's what most Microsoft employees are using. Hopefully they won't eventually trash Windows 8 worse than what they are doing with Windows 10. Microsoft can forget about ultraportable PC domination, that war is over. Opening up Windows might be the only thing to save Microsoft. Open source would probably greatly enhance the desktop OS over time. Yeah, you're clearly off of your medication. Meanwhile, the Surface Pro line is quickly becoming a device of choice for new customers You might have a point about the new Surface Pro http://www.techtimes.com/articles/11...let-online.htm Still, most Windows users don't own a Surface Pro, so they are not interested in any "compromise" or "seamless transition". and the SurfaceBook demonstrates that Microsoft is still capable of innovating and that it can make a fool out of Apple. I don't know what delusion you have but it's affecting your ability to reason. |
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It's a good day to upgrade
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Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-04 8:08 AM, edevils wrote: On 03/01/2016 16:50, Slimer wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-03 2:17 AM, John Doe wrote: I wrote: Getting Windows 8 for $40 and now Windows 10 for free. Easy to understand why, because Microsoft is under humongous reverse pressure from ultraportable PCs and their operating systems. But I have a feeling it's going to effect more than the price of Windows. Unfortunately, it seems to be encouraging Microsoft to do the wrong thing. Instead of Microsoft improving the desktop operating system, Microsoft is trying harder to monopolize ultraportable PCs, and to hell with the desktop. Perhaps because ultraportable PCs are hot sellers? As far as I know, Windows 10 is an excellent compromise between those who want a desktop experience and those who want a tablet experience. My wife has one such ultraportable hybrid device and the transition from laptop to tablet is seamless. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. What kind of device does your wife have? A Surface Pro? Lenovo Yoga Pro 3. This reminds me of the big Microsoft antitrust trial prior to 2000. That's when Windows XP came out and ended the crappy consumer versions of Windows power users had to restart several times during the day. This huge pressure on Microsoft could result in another major improvement of quality. No more sitting on its hands, at least for a while. Or maybe Microsoft is losing it. I've experienced several extremely long delays that remind me of pre-Windows XP freezing. There is also the appearance that programmers who don't know what they're doing are trying to redesign Windows. None of the old annoyances have been fixed. And the fact we have no control over updates is a huge glaring mistake. Putting the tiles on the start menu does nothing for me. All I use the Start screen for in Windows 8 is occasionally searching for a newly installed application. Meanwhile, this group is discussing Windows 10 where tiles are very well integrated. How do you use tiles on a desktop PC / notebook? Well, I know that if I need a quick idea of what the weather is or what the currency exchange is currently at, the app I installed in the Start menu will give me that information. I also have one for unit conversion. Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. I will do a clean installation of Windows 8 instead. I suspect that's what most Microsoft employees are using. Hopefully they won't eventually trash Windows 8 worse than what they are doing with Windows 10. Microsoft can forget about ultraportable PC domination, that war is over. Opening up Windows might be the only thing to save Microsoft. Open source would probably greatly enhance the desktop OS over time. Yeah, you're clearly off of your medication. Meanwhile, the Surface Pro line is quickly becoming a device of choice for new customers You might have a point about the new Surface Pro http://www.techtimes.com/articles/11...oft-surface-ov ertakes-apple-s-ipad-as-top-selling-tablet-online.htm Still, most Windows users don't own a Surface Pro, so they are not interested in any "compromise" or "seamless transition". Traditional ones might not, the new ones will. Not everyone is interested in power as much as they are in portability and slick design. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWirkfAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uQZ4IAIihfuQmv/NpbX6AHzJ+Z1ag HLGxvHoN5jXwEZFKbUXnxA4ZLwW8zWRDcKZKWcqUAiDhAzJejh ezbR9XASLtI34v zOJ3w6jCo5uI9hck65ldtG0yxU+S/PPf67zcI0WBjs7LLswFHPln89ibPllfj3gR ul+U9lAxpYLoJ4xQjje1QAuYbtswQKevBRpv0/6JyFcGVv9ajjFc7M4d2jQnaqxF JMboNnMsQf3x5f3I9WDMdO3vuMDRQipjsvXAh2hmxmiJ+cO2KI 2HpIEQum/sU53C lJ2yoqTcv4BS5kjTLlBC9k0UeLNLjmqYuvTX9j4fmFHGO2mXrj 4X66Sq2JjXaoA= =gWT0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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It's a good day to upgrade
edevils wrote:
You might have a point about the new Surface Pro http://www.techtimes.com/articles/11...let-online.htm Still, most Windows users don't own a Surface Pro, so they are not interested in any "compromise" or "seamless transition". The ultraportable PC war is long over. Microsoft is acting like the Black Night in Monty Python's Holy Grail after King Arthur got through with it. It wasn't even Microsoft's territory to begin with. Other headlines, from 2015... "Apple Watch Already Generates More Revenue Than Microsoft Surface" http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/news/ap...osoft-surface/ "Apple's iPhone Sales Last Quarter Worth More Than Google And Microsoft's Combined" http://www.ibtimes.com/apples-iphone...mbined-1797318 "Apple iPhone Sales Surge Leads to Biggest Profit for Any Company Ever" http://abcnews.go.com/Business/apple...ry?id=28529129 "Apple crushes analyst predictions by selling 74.4 million iPhones last quarter" https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-last-quarter/ "How, and Why, Apple Overtook Microsoft" http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/bu...soft.html?_r=0 |
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It's a good day to upgrade
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 22:52:14 +0000, John Doe wrote:
CRNG wrote: John Doe wrote: Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. I'm still on WinXPsp2. I have never performed a single upgrade and have no plans to upgrade until the hardware dies. Why not service pack 3? And why are you here? Admittedly, Windows XP was the first and apparently last Microsoft Windows that took Windows seriously. But hopefully that will change. Correction! Windows 2000 professional holds that particular honour. By comparison, winXP was a blinged up braindead polished turd aimed specifically to capture the domestic home market of consumers with its 'Fisher Price' desktop environment designed to appeal to young American family consumers and their 2.5 toddlers in tow as they browsed their local 'Circuit City' and Radioshack stores. Taking a look at Windows 10... I am impressed that Microsoft is making Windows look worse than ever before. Now there are even fewer theme After winXP, I'm not at all surprised. Usability has been on a downhill slope ever since with the ironically named Vista representing a rapid plunge into the abbyss and win7's tricks of trying to hide the fact that it's just another bit of PC hardware prone, as ever, to hardware failures rather than, as 99% of consumers think of their handheld 'toy computers' as being "Just Magic" that might as well have been imported from Terry Pratchet's "Discworld" for all they understand of the technology involved by not admitting to blatant hard disk problems that would once have resulted (in both win2k and winXP) in an immediate pop up error message about problems accessing the disk drive. This just what you might expect from a PC industry cartel, headed by MSFT and the chip suppliers, well named as "Wintel". The year 2000 was the year that Wintel hit 'paydirt' when they finally succeeded in their 'Holy Grail' conquest' of that softest of targets, the American Consumer market (which rapidly expanded into the global consumer market just a few short years later). It's only now, in hindsight, that winXP looks a lot less **** than it really is (but only because all subsequent windows releases have proven to be even ****tier with each successive release). -- Johnny B Good |
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It's a good day to upgrade
John Doe wrote:
CRNG wrote: John Doe wrote: Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. I'm still on WinXPsp2. I have never performed a single upgrade and have no plans to upgrade until the hardware dies. Why not service pack 3? And why are you here? Admittedly, Windows XP was the first and apparently last Microsoft Windows that took Windows seriously. But hopefully that will change. Taking a look at Windows 10... I am impressed that Microsoft is making Windows look worse than ever before. Now there are even fewer theme customization options than there were in Windows 8/7/Vista. Windows borders look like ****. Fortunately, if you are using a high contrast color scheme, you can repair most of the damage simply by copying the Colors folder from the Windows 8 registry. But forget about gradient title bars. Strangely, nowadays Microsoft apparently thinks that a cool desktop background picture is all it takes to make Windows look okay. Microsoft should change the name to something other than "Windows" if it's going to destroy the look and feel of Windows. But hopefully appearance customization of the desktop will come back to Microsoft as it struggles for its life against ultraportable PCs. Or maybe it will just die. Time will tell. Next up, I will see what Microsoft has done for speech recognition in Windows. Google has already made their speech recognition practically on par with Dragon NaturallySpeaking, at least for short phrase dictation. If Microsoft wants to combat ultraportable PCs, it's going to have to improve Windows for desktop users. There are plenty of innovations Microsoft should have been doing all along. They are already happening on ultraportable PCs. If Microsoft doesn't see those things by now, it's dead. And things did not work properly on my Vaio laptop and it did not revert, had to wipe everything and reinstall 8.1 from scratch. |
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John Doe wrote:
A typical UseNet troll... Idiots that just HAVE to change backgrounds to prove how clever they are (they think)are stuffing things up |
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It's a good day to upgrade
John Doe wrote:
edevils wrote: Slimer wrote: Microsoft removed certain personalization options in Windows, That's not just a one time thing, asshole, it's a trend that's been going on since after Windows XP. And then they are adding them again. My Win10 title bars are dark blue, like the accent color I chose in PC Settings - Personalization. And hopefully they will begin to reverse all of the other appearance customization restrictions so that we can start making Windows look the way we want it to look like we used to be able to do. Nowadays, they are pushing background pictures and accent colors as if they are themes. But of course destroying Windows' look and feel is not Microsoft's only problem. Microsoft's lack of innovation is rightly being highlighted by innovation in the ultraportable PC market, by Apple and Google. And it's about time. Suck it up Microsoft. See how much longer you can survive without adding viable speech input and output to Windows. Otherwise... DIE! DIE! DIE! At least the worst mob (Apple) has apple centres with apple experts in them . Where could I have taken my problem with WIN 10 to, Microsoft were the ones trying to exhort me to install 10 saying it would work. |
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It's a good day to upgrade
bert wrote:
In article , Ed Mullen writes John Doe wrote on 12/30/2015 6:43 PM: Getting Windows 8 for $40 and now Windows 10 for free. Easy to understand why, because Microsoft is under humongous reverse pressure from ultraportable PCs and their operating systems. But I have a feeling it's going to effect more than the price of Windows. This reminds me of the big Microsoft antitrust trial prior to 2000. That's when Windows XP came out and ended the crappy consumer versions of Windows power users had to restart several times during the day. This huge pressure on Microsoft could result in another major improvement of quality. No more sitting on its hands, at least for a while. Time to upgrade. For me, much earlier than usual. I didn't even use Windows Vista or Windows 7. You missed out on W7. Great OS. So far I'm unimpressed by W10 by comparison. It's getting better but almost in secret. You have to dig around to find what's new and better. Like changing the program title bar color from that horrid white. Took out the ability then put it back in. Why didn't they just ask first? Or why even contemplate changing that? White? Uh, white? It's almost as if the MS Devs like being called idiots and cursed at. Geez. Lemme see, an MS Windows dev meeting ... "Let's make all the title bars white!" "Why?" "Because we can!" "Um, what if people don't like it?" "What!? Of course they will!!!" "Why?" "I don't care!" My wife bought a new laptop with 8.1 She was happy with it but upgraded to W10. Noticeably slower and she preferred the 8.1 tiles. So rolled back to 8.1 Now is unhappy with a partially ****ed up 8.1 Snap. |
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It's a good day to upgrade
F Murtz wrote:
And things did not work properly on my Vaio laptop and it did not revert, had to wipe everything and reinstall 8.1 from scratch. That's what Macrium Reflect is for. Life can be so easy... |
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It's a good day to upgrade
John Doe wrote:
F Murtz wrote: And things did not work properly on my Vaio laptop and it did not revert, had to wipe everything and reinstall 8.1 from scratch. That's what Macrium Reflect is for. Life can be so easy... Win 10 is supposed to do it for you and revert seamlessly if done before a couple of weeks |
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It's a good day to upgrade
F Murtz wrote:
John Doe wrote: F Murtz wrote: And things did not work properly on my Vaio laptop and it did not revert, had to wipe everything and reinstall 8.1 from scratch. That's what Macrium Reflect is for. Life can be so easy... Win 10 is supposed to do it for you and revert seamlessly if done before a couple of weeks Actually, no. The seamless part, is anything contained in Windows.old is preserved very nicely. No argument there. However, they modify the contents of your Program Files, removing programs as they see fit, which means an attempt to revert, they never put the contents of Program Files back. This is why we use backup software here. *Backup* before your "free" Upgrade installation! That's how you revert, with absolutely no issues at all. A backup copy will keep your Program Files, the way you had it. HTH, Paul |
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It's a good day to upgrade
On 06/01/2016 13:56, F Murtz wrote:
John Doe wrote: F Murtz wrote: And things did not work properly on my Vaio laptop and it did not revert, had to wipe everything and reinstall 8.1 from scratch. That's what Macrium Reflect is for. Life can be so easy... Win 10 is supposed to do it for you and revert seamlessly if done before a couple of weeks 1. Not always as "seamlessly" as it is *supposed* to be, even if done immediately after the upgrade. See what Paul says. 2. Reverting is a slower process than restoring a backup image. 3. You can restore the backup image whenever you like, while the reverting feature is limited to 31 days max. 4. Backing up is a good practice anyway, regardless of the upgrade. 5. In case your hard disk is nearly full, you may need to delete windows.old to free up disk space, and then regret having deleted it... when you need it! On the contrary, backing up to an external disk or pendrive or NAS... is not a problem. |
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How to make a boot & repair disk Win 10
Couldn't find anything useful on Google. |
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How to make a boot & repair disk Win 10
Jake wrote:
Couldn't find anything useful on Google. Boot your Vista/Windows7/Windows8/Windows19 machine and run the browser, visit this page and get the MediaCreationTool. Match the OS version currently on your computer, before starting the download from the MediaCreationTool.exe . http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...d/windows10ISO Paul |
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How to make a boot & repair disk Win 10
"Paul" wrote in message ... Jake wrote: Couldn't find anything useful on Google. Boot your Vista/Windows7/Windows8/Windows19 machine and run the browser, visit this page and get the MediaCreationTool. Match the OS version currently on your computer, before starting the download from the MediaCreationTool.exe . http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...d/windows10ISO Paul Tks. for the input. After I posted I gave it another look. Burned a CD like this, using , "file History", click, "system image backup", click, "create a system repair disc". Eazy Peazy. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...947&FORM=VIRE1 |
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