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  #1  
Old September 1st 05, 02:45 AM
No_Name
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Default Map drives between 2 XP SP2 machines...

I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire to map a
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 I did not
have this problem.

Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into the
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the other. Same
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what gives.

I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - but I can't
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw me a bone?
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  #2  
Old September 1st 05, 03:25 AM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
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Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall exceptions =
to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This setting and =
other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, Settings.

--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
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=20
" wrote in =
message ...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire to =

map a=20
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 I =

did not=20
have this problem.=20
=20
Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into the =


"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the other. =

Same=20
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what gives.=20
=20
I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - but I =

can't=20
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw me =

a bone?
  #3  
Old September 1st 05, 12:52 PM
No_Name
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Thanls for the quick reply!

On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off radio
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom stating that the
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in on the
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to the local
machine)

Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service named
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the list
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further, how will I
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for myself?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall exceptions to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This setting and other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, Settings.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire to map a
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 I did not
have this problem.

Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into the
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the other. Same
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what gives.

I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - but I can't
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw me a bone?


  #4  
Old September 1st 05, 05:14 PM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
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ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not the =
Exceptions tab.

--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" wrote in =
message ...
Thanls for the quick reply!
=20
On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off =

radio=20
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom stating =

that the=20
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in on =

the=20
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to =

the local=20
machine)
=20
Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service =

named=20
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the =

list=20
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further, how =

will I=20
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for =

myself?
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall =

exceptions to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This =
setting and other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, =
Settings.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" wrote =

in message ...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire =

to map a=20
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 =

I did not=20
have this problem.=20
=20
Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into =

the=20
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the =

other. Same=20
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what =

gives.=20
=20
I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - =

but I can't=20
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw =

me a bone?

  #5  
Old September 1st 05, 06:44 PM
No_Name
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Oops, I see that in your message now...

Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo request" checked
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not the Exceptions tab.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
Thanls for the quick reply!

On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off radio
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom stating that the
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in on the
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to the local
machine)

Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service named
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the list
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further, how will I
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for myself?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall exceptions to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This setting and other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, Settings.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire to map a
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 I did not
have this problem.

Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into the
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the other. Same
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what gives.

I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - but I can't
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw me a bone?


  #6  
Old September 1st 05, 07:04 PM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
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ICMP Echo is the same as a Ping. Port 445 should be the port that =
ping's come in on.

--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" wrote in =
message ...
Oops, I see that in your message now...
=20
Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo request" =

checked=20
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not the =

Exceptions tab.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" wrote =

in message ...
Thanls for the quick reply!
=20
On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off =

radio=20
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom =

stating that the=20
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in =

on the=20
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to =

the local=20
machine)
=20
Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service =

named=20
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the =

list=20
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further, =

how will I=20
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for =

myself?
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall =

exceptions to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This =
setting and other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, =
Settings.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" =

wrote in message =
...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual =

desire to map a=20
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP =

SP2 I did not=20
have this problem.=20
=20
Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging =

into the=20
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the =

other. Same=20
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what =

gives.=20
=20
I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - =

but I can't=20
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone =

throw me a bone?


  #7  
Old September 2nd 05, 08:25 PM
No_Name
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So, it appears that I have an exception for ping/echo and port 445 open - but
I'm still not able to map (or ping) from one PC to the other...

Any other suggestions?

BTW, say for instance, that my IP addresses are 192.168.0.100 and ...101 on
the two machines respectively... I should be able to map drives from one
machine to the other using the router assigned IPs (that's how I used todo it
before I upgraded to XP SP2...)

I'm stumped!

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP Echo is the same as a Ping. Port 445 should be the port that ping's come in on.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
Oops, I see that in your message now...

Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo request" checked
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not the Exceptions tab.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
Thanls for the quick reply!

On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off radio
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom stating that the
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in on the
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to the local
machine)

Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service named
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the list
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further, how will I
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for myself?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall exceptions to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This setting and other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, Settings.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire to map a
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 I did not
have this problem.

Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into the
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the other. Same
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what gives.

I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - but I can't
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw me a bone?



  #8  
Old September 2nd 05, 09:11 PM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
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You should be able to do it by IP address, or by machine name. If port =
445 is opened, then you shouldn't have any problem. Since you're behind =
a router, have you tried turning XP's firewall off? If that works, then =
its definitely a firewall issue.

--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" wrote in =
message ...
So, it appears that I have an exception for ping/echo and port 445 =

open - but=20
I'm still not able to map (or ping) from one PC to the other...=20
=20
Any other suggestions?
=20
BTW, say for instance, that my IP addresses are 192.168.0.100 and =

....101 on=20
the two machines respectively... I should be able to map drives from =

one=20
machine to the other using the router assigned IPs (that's how I used =

todo it=20
before I upgraded to XP SP2...)
=20
I'm stumped!
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
ICMP Echo is the same as a Ping. Port 445 should be the port that =

ping's come in on.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" wrote =

in message ...
Oops, I see that in your message now...
=20
Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo request" =

checked=20
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not =

the Exceptions tab.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" =

wrote in message =
...
Thanls for the quick reply!
=20
On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and =

off radio=20
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom =

stating that the=20
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged =

in on the=20
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login =

to the local=20
machine)
=20
Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or =

service named=20
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to =

the list=20
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? =

Further, how will I=20
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk =

for myself?
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall =

exceptions to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This =
setting and other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, =
Settings.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" =

wrote in message =
...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual =

desire to map a=20
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to =

XP SP2 I did not=20
have this problem.=20
=20
Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging =

into the=20
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the =

other. Same=20
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... =

what gives.=20
=20
I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and =

such - but I can't=20
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone =

throw me a bone?



  #9  
Old September 4th 05, 03:29 AM
WhiteZin2000
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Pings don't use a port. The ICMP protocol is a network-layer protocol (not a
transport-layer protocol). So a port exception will no affect their
success/failure.

While you're at the command prompt for either PC and type in 'arp -g'. See
if either PC shows the Physical Address of the other system. If not, ensure
your subnet mask are correct and (as Mr. Knox points out) check out some
type of firewall setting.

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
ICMP Echo is the same as a Ping. Port 445 should be the port that ping's
come in on.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in
message ...
Oops, I see that in your message now...

Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo request" checked
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not the
Exceptions tab.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in
message ...
Thanls for the quick reply!

On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off
radio
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom stating
that the
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in on
the
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to the
local
machine)

Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service
named
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the list
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further, how
will I
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for
myself?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall exceptions
to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This setting and
other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, Settings.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote
in message ...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire
to map a
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 I
did not
have this problem.

Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into
the
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the other.
Same
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what
gives.

I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - but
I can't
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw
me a bone?




  #10  
Old September 8th 05, 01:37 AM
No_Name
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Well, I verifed that I have an ICMP exception for PING/echo and have port 445
open on both machies (with the scope of the exception being my network, i.e.
subnet) - But I still am not able to get an comminucation b/w the machines.

Firewall on/off - now a correction to one of my eariler posts. When
logged into the local machine (i.e. not the domain) for both machines: On
Machine A, on the Firewall's General tab, The "Off..." radio button is
selected, but both the "On..." and "Off..." buttons are disabled (greyed
out). The message at the bottom states that "Windows Firewall is using your
domain settings". On machine B, on the Firewall's General tab, the "Off..."
radio button is selected and enabled. The message at the bottom of the screen
states that "Windows Firewall is using your NON-domain settings". I'm not
sure of this discrepancy is causing an issue.

What other reasons would there be that I can't get these two machines to
talk - given they could communicate before I installed XP SP2?

Ok, one other possible issue - I just realized that I also installed
Checkpoint Software technologies' VPN-1 SecureClient software on both
machines. It looks like it has settings for security profiles but I don't see
a way to set exceptions... could this be the culprit? If so, any ideas on how
to deal with it (other than disabling it...)

Thanks for your help thus far!

Charles

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

You should be able to do it by IP address, or by machine name. If port 445 is opened, then you shouldn't have any problem. Since you're behind a router, have you tried turning XP's firewall off? If that works, then its definitely a firewall issue.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
So, it appears that I have an exception for ping/echo and port 445 open - but
I'm still not able to map (or ping) from one PC to the other...

Any other suggestions?

BTW, say for instance, that my IP addresses are 192.168.0.100 and ....101 on
the two machines respectively... I should be able to map drives from one
machine to the other using the router assigned IPs (that's how I used todo it
before I upgraded to XP SP2...)

I'm stumped!

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP Echo is the same as a Ping. Port 445 should be the port that ping's come in on.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
Oops, I see that in your message now...

Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo request" checked
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not the Exceptions tab.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
Thanls for the quick reply!

On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off radio
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom stating that the
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in on the
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to the local
machine)

Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service named
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the list
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further, how will I
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for myself?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall exceptions to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This setting and other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, Settings.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire to map a
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 I did not
have this problem.

Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into the
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the other. Same
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what gives.

I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - but I can't
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw me a bone?




  #11  
Old September 8th 05, 01:43 AM
No_Name
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So when I ran 'arp -g' I only got one entry - I think its my router's local
address - regardless, none of the IP's (wired or wireless) for the other
machines (I tried from both) were listed.

Being a novice at this I'll ask stupid question - how do I check my sub-net
mask?(where do I look and what am I looking for?)

Before you respond, you may want to check my other post at the end of the
other thread...

Thanks for your help thus far!

Charles



"WhiteZin2000" wrote:

Pings don't use a port. The ICMP protocol is a network-layer protocol (not a
transport-layer protocol). So a port exception will no affect their
success/failure.

While you're at the command prompt for either PC and type in 'arp -g'. See
if either PC shows the Physical Address of the other system. If not, ensure
your subnet mask are correct and (as Mr. Knox points out) check out some
type of firewall setting.

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
ICMP Echo is the same as a Ping. Port 445 should be the port that ping's
come in on.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in
message ...
Oops, I see that in your message now...

Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo request" checked
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not the
Exceptions tab.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in
message ...
Thanls for the quick reply!

On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off
radio
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom stating
that the
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in on
the
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to the
local
machine)

Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service
named
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the list
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further, how
will I
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for
myself?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall exceptions
to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This setting and
other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, Settings.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote
in message ...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire
to map a
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 I
did not
have this problem.

Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into
the
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the other.
Same
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what
gives.

I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - but
I can't
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw
me a bone?





  #12  
Old September 8th 05, 01:56 AM
No_Name
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FYI, I tried turning off the VPN-1 client, then releasing and renewing IP
adresses - but still was unable to get the machines to communicate...

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

You should be able to do it by IP address, or by machine name. If port 445 is opened, then you shouldn't have any problem. Since you're behind a router, have you tried turning XP's firewall off? If that works, then its definitely a firewall issue.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
So, it appears that I have an exception for ping/echo and port 445 open - but
I'm still not able to map (or ping) from one PC to the other...

Any other suggestions?

BTW, say for instance, that my IP addresses are 192.168.0.100 and ....101 on
the two machines respectively... I should be able to map drives from one
machine to the other using the router assigned IPs (that's how I used todo it
before I upgraded to XP SP2...)

I'm stumped!

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP Echo is the same as a Ping. Port 445 should be the port that ping's come in on.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
Oops, I see that in your message now...

Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo request" checked
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not the Exceptions tab.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
Thanls for the quick reply!

On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off radio
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom stating that the
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in on the
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to the local
machine)

Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service named
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the list
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further, how will I
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for myself?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall exceptions to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This setting and other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, Settings.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in message ...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual desire to map a
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP SP2 I did not
have this problem.

Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging into the
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the other. Same
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what gives.

I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such - but I can't
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone throw me a bone?




  #13  
Old September 8th 05, 02:39 AM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
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Default

CheckPoint's VPN software has a Stateful Packet Inspection firewall, I =
believe, that is on, even when the VPN connection is not established. =
Check the Help files for how to turn the SPI firewall off.

--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" wrote in =
message ...
Well, I verifed that I have an ICMP exception for PING/echo and have =

port 445=20
open on both machies (with the scope of the exception being my =

network, i.e.=20
subnet) - But I still am not able to get an comminucation b/w the =

machines.=20
=20
Firewall on/off - now a correction to one of my eariler posts. =

When=20
logged into the local machine (i.e. not the domain) for both machines: =

On=20
Machine A, on the Firewall's General tab, The "Off..." radio button is =


selected, but both the "On..." and "Off..." buttons are disabled =

(greyed=20
out). The message at the bottom states that "Windows Firewall is using =

your=20
domain settings". On machine B, on the Firewall's General tab, the =

"Off..."=20
radio button is selected and enabled. The message at the bottom of the =

screen=20
states that "Windows Firewall is using your NON-domain settings". I'm =

not=20
sure of this discrepancy is causing an issue.
=20
What other reasons would there be that I can't get these two machines =

to=20
talk - given they could communicate before I installed XP SP2?
=20
Ok, one other possible issue - I just realized that I also installed=20
Checkpoint Software technologies' VPN-1 SecureClient software on both=20
machines. It looks like it has settings for security profiles but I =

don't see=20
a way to set exceptions... could this be the culprit? If so, any ideas =

on how=20
to deal with it (other than disabling it...)
=20
Thanks for your help thus far!
=20
Charles
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
You should be able to do it by IP address, or by machine name. If =

port 445 is opened, then you shouldn't have any problem. Since you're =
behind a router, have you tried turning XP's firewall off? If that =
works, then its definitely a firewall issue.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" wrote =

in message ...
So, it appears that I have an exception for ping/echo and port 445 =

open - but=20
I'm still not able to map (or ping) from one PC to the other...=20
=20
Any other suggestions?
=20
BTW, say for instance, that my IP addresses are 192.168.0.100 and =

.....101 on=20
the two machines respectively... I should be able to map drives =

from one=20
machine to the other using the router assigned IPs (that's how I =

used todo it=20
before I upgraded to XP SP2...)
=20
I'm stumped!
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
ICMP Echo is the same as a Ping. Port 445 should be the port that =

ping's come in on.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" =

wrote in message =
...
Oops, I see that in your message now...
=20
Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo =

request" checked=20
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, =

not the Exceptions tab.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" =

wrote in message =
...
Thanls for the quick reply!
=20
On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on =

and off radio=20
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom =

stating that the=20
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm =

logged in on the=20
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I =

login to the local=20
machine)
=20
Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or =

service named=20
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception =

to the list=20
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? =

Further, how will I=20
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security =

risk for myself?
=20
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
=20
Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall =

exceptions to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This =
setting and other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, =
Settings.
=20
--=20
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart =

Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
=20
" =

wrote in message =
...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with =

eventual desire to map a=20
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading =

to XP SP2 I did not=20
have this problem.=20
=20
Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When =

logging into the=20
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING =

the other. Same=20
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... =

what gives.=20
=20
I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and =

such - but I can't=20
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can =

someone throw me a bone?




  #14  
Old September 8th 05, 04:25 AM
WhiteZin2000
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Posts: n/a
Default

If you have DHCP configured, then your subnet mask is easily obtainable from
the client PC - you'd have to check the DHCP server (or router) and see what
the subnet mask is set to. Unless you have manually changed the TCP/IP
settings, you're probably setup for DHCP...

If you are still experincing issues - you may want to try un-binding the VPN
(or other) software from the network card. Do this by simply unchecking the
VPN componnet in the Properties of the network card - and then click close.
This way, you don't have to uninstall any software just for testing
purposes. To make things really simple (and eliminate any VPN potential
issues), uncheck everything from the network card except the following three
components: 1) Client for Microsoft networks, 2) File and Priner Sharing and
3) Internet protocol TCPIP. (Actually, you can even uncheck File and
Pritner sharing just to test with.).

Uncheck these components on each PC and see of you can 'ping' across to the
other. Cheers!

" wrote in
message ...
So when I ran 'arp -g' I only got one entry - I think its my router's
local
address - regardless, none of the IP's (wired or wireless) for the other
machines (I tried from both) were listed.

Being a novice at this I'll ask stupid question - how do I check my
sub-net
mask?(where do I look and what am I looking for?)

Before you respond, you may want to check my other post at the end of the
other thread...

Thanks for your help thus far!

Charles



"WhiteZin2000" wrote:

Pings don't use a port. The ICMP protocol is a network-layer protocol
(not a
transport-layer protocol). So a port exception will no affect their
success/failure.

While you're at the command prompt for either PC and type in 'arp -g'.
See
if either PC shows the Physical Address of the other system. If not,
ensure
your subnet mask are correct and (as Mr. Knox points out) check out some
type of firewall setting.

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
ICMP Echo is the same as a Ping. Port 445 should be the port that ping's
come in on.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote in
message ...
Oops, I see that in your message now...

Ok, on both PC's I've got the option "Allow incoming echo request"
checked
but nothing else. I don't see anything about "Ping".
Is there some port that I need to enable (and how)?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

ICMP packet exceptions are on the Advanced tab, ICMP section, not the
Exceptions tab.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

" wrote
in
message ...
Thanls for the quick reply!

On the "Windows Firewall" dialog's general tab, both the on and off
radio
buttons are greyed out - and there's a message at the bottom stating
that the
"Windows Firewall is using your domain settings"... (I'm logged in
on
the
domain account - the firewall has this same setting when I login to
the
local
machine)

Regardless, under the exceptions tab, I have no program or service
named
like "ICMP Ping/echo packets" - how do I add this exception to the
list
(clicking add programs reveals no program like "*ICMP*")? Further,
how
will I
know whick port(s) to open up without creating a security risk for
myself?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

Is the Windows firewall enabled? If so, check the firewall
exceptions
to ensure that ICMP Ping/echo packets are allowed. This setting and
other ICMP settings are found on the Advanced tab, ICMP, Settings.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"
wrote
in message
...
I am having trouble getting a connection (ping, with eventual
desire
to map a
drive) between two machines on XP SP2 - before upgrading to XP
SP2 I
did not
have this problem.

Here's my set up...
Two laptops with XP SP2, connected via a router. When logging
into
the
"local machine" on both laptops, neither machine can PING the
other.
Same
story when I login to both machines on the same domain... what
gives.

I know the IP addresses of both machines, subnet mask and such -
but
I can't
reach one machine from the other... I need help - can someone
throw
me a bone?







 




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