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Old October 24th 16, 06:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill Cunningham[_2_]
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I am finding I believe that bleach bit doesn't work on registry keys. Am
I right? It seems to be a pretty good tool though.

Bill


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Old October 24th 16, 07:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Bill Cunningham
writes:
I am finding I believe that bleach bit doesn't work on registry keys. Am
I right? It seems to be a pretty good tool though.

Bill


What _does_ it do? (I've never heard of it.)
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Old October 24th 16, 09:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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What _does_ it do? (I've never heard of it.)


Some people have mentioned it and claimed that Clinton cleaned her system
with it. IDK how unless the entire HD was overwritten. It does that how many
times IDK. A microreading device can read things overwritten once. There's
journals too. With NTFS and ext3 among others. IDK that it does anything
mail wise it might.

Bill



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Old October 24th 16, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 10/24/2016 1:38 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...

What _does_ it do? (I've never heard of it.)


Some people have mentioned it and claimed that Clinton cleaned her system
with it. IDK how unless the entire HD was overwritten. It does that how many
times IDK. A microreading device can read things overwritten once. There's
journals too. With NTFS and ext3 among others. IDK that it does anything
mail wise it might.

Bill



I don't think this is a security program.
If I understand correctly, your browser has to sort thru
the cache every time you load a page to see if it's cached.
The bigger the cache, the longer it takes.
Mine deletes about half a gigabyte of stuff every week or so.

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Old October 25th 16, 03:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Paul wrote:

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Bill Cunningham WROTE:

I am finding I believe that bleach bit doesn't work on registry
keys. Am I right? It seems to be a pretty good tool though.


What _does_ it do? (I've never heard of it.)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BleachBit
Written in: Python


Since Windows does not come bundled with a Python interpreter, users of
BleachBit would have to install one, like ActiveState's Python
(http://www.activestate.com/activepython). I don't use Java-based
tools, either, because of the need to install an interpreter.

While I do have some cleanup tools (e.g., CCleaner), probably the first
line of privacy defense is to configure the web browser to purge
*everything* upon its exit. I know some folks like to retain Site
Preferences on exit; however, it has been shown that data can be used to
generate a unique hash that can track you across web browser sessions.
If you are purging all caches, DOM storage, cookies, etc to protect your
privacy, you need to dump the site preferences, too. And then there is
the HTML5 Canvas read() scheme to create a unique hash to track you so
you need to block those, too (actually an add-on to return a value but
randomize it is better; I use CanvasBlocker in Firefox). The more
convenience features the web browsers authors cater to (for sites), the
less privacy we have.

By analogy, it might be a CCleaner. The difference is, CCleaner does
fiddle with the registry, and it's recommended to turn that part of
CCleaner "off".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCleaner


It is one of the safest registry cleaners. I always have it store a
backup of the portion of the registry it intends to change so that I can
restore in case problems crop out after cleanup. Of course, a registry
backup (.reg file) is worthless if you cannot boot Windows to apply the
..reg file so regular backups are recommended (along with scheduling them
to eliminate relying on the user to remember to do the backups - which
will fail after awhile).

CCleaner will show you every change it intends to make. You can remove
some if you like. This is far better than registry cleaners that leave
users in the dark as to what they change. As with any registry cleaner,
and obviously only those that expose their intentions, it is still the
responsibility of the user acting as admin of the computer to know what
the hell is being proposed for registry changes. Boobs and ignorants
should NEVER use registry cleaners. Even experts should plan an escape
route to recover from registry cleanup.

Unlike BleachBit which uses Python hence is cross-platform, CCleaner
only runs on Windows (because it is compiled, not interpreted).
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Old October 25th 16, 05:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill Cunningham[_2_]
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Paul wrote:

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Bill Cunningham WROTE:

I am finding I believe that bleach bit doesn't work on registry
keys. Am I right? It seems to be a pretty good tool though.

What _does_ it do? (I've never heard of it.)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BleachBit
Written in: Python


Since Windows does not come bundled with a Python interpreter, users of
BleachBit would have to install one, like ActiveState's Python
(http://www.activestate.com/activepython). I don't use Java-based
tools, either, because of the need to install an interpreter.

While I do have some cleanup tools (e.g., CCleaner), probably the first
line of privacy defense is to configure the web browser to purge
*everything* upon its exit. I know some folks like to retain Site
Preferences on exit; however, it has been shown that data can be used to
generate a unique hash that can track you across web browser sessions.
If you are purging all caches, DOM storage, cookies, etc to protect your
privacy, you need to dump the site preferences, too. And then there is
the HTML5 Canvas read() scheme to create a unique hash to track you so
you need to block those, too (actually an add-on to return a value but
randomize it is better; I use CanvasBlocker in Firefox). The more
convenience features the web browsers authors cater to (for sites), the
less privacy we have.

By analogy, it might be a CCleaner. The difference is, CCleaner does
fiddle with the registry, and it's recommended to turn that part of
CCleaner "off".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCleaner


It is one of the safest registry cleaners. I always have it store a
backup of the portion of the registry it intends to change so that I can
restore in case problems crop out after cleanup. Of course, a registry
backup (.reg file) is worthless if you cannot boot Windows to apply the
.reg file so regular backups are recommended (along with scheduling them
to eliminate relying on the user to remember to do the backups - which
will fail after awhile).

CCleaner will show you every change it intends to make. You can remove
some if you like. This is far better than registry cleaners that leave
users in the dark as to what they change. As with any registry cleaner,
and obviously only those that expose their intentions, it is still the
responsibility of the user acting as admin of the computer to know what
the hell is being proposed for registry changes. Boobs and ignorants
should NEVER use registry cleaners. Even experts should plan an escape
route to recover from registry cleanup.

Unlike BleachBit which uses Python hence is cross-platform, CCleaner
only runs on Windows (because it is compiled, not interpreted).


I run and have run ccleaner all the time. As far a Python I don't to my
knowledge have any runtime libraries other than what the installer might
install. I don't have a python interpreter or compiler either. A Compiler
sounds a little odd for Python. Which can be used in scripting too.

Bill


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Old October 25th 16, 07:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

As far a Python I don't to my knowledge have any runtime libraries
other than what the installer might install. I don't have a python
interpreter or compiler either. A Compiler sounds a little odd for
Python. Which can be used in scripting too.


Python programming is a scripting language. You will need an
interpreter (not a compiler) to run the Python-based scripts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python...mming_language)

Any author can either bundle Python into their installer (just another
package to install) or go retrieve it if not found on your computer and
then install it. I have use PDFCreator and Bullzip PDF Printer and both
rely on Ghostscript. PDFCreator requires the user to go get and install
Ghostscript. Bullzip looks and will retrieve a copy if not found.

Sometimes when bundled or retrieved, the support software may be either
installed as a global program (in a standard path and any script can use
it) or as a private program that is local to only the parent program
(usually as a subdirectory under the parent program's install path).
For example, you can install the K-Lite Codec pack which is globally
available to all media programs versus VideoLAN's VLC player which
includes its own set of media codecs under its own install path that are
accessible only the VLC player.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BleachBit
"BleachBit is written in the Python programming language and uses
PyGTK."

So you'll need both a Python interpreter (to run the BleachBit scripts)
along with the PyGTK for the graphics library. Neither of those come in
Windows. They have to get installed (or, at least, copied) to your
computer. Python is probably included in most *NIX distributions; that
is, unless you perform a custom OS setup and overtly deselect Python, it
will get included in a *NIX install.

http://www.bleachbit.org/documentation/installation

That doesn't list Python requirements for Windows; however, that does
not preclude the program installer from including a Python installer or
the portable version from including a Python interpreter. Bundling is
often used for Windows packages. The latest released package is at:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ble...leachbit/1.12/

Look in the .gz.tar package. When I tried, Peazip puked on that file.
Besides, .gz (compression) and .tar (archive) are for Linux, not
Windows. So I grabbed the 1.10 released version. They provide an .exe
for its installer but I wasn't interested in decomposing the executable
to find out what is inside. Instead I looked at the portable version.
Yep, that includes Python. Go look.
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Old October 25th 16, 08:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill Cunningham[_2_]
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Bill Cunningham wrote:

As far a Python I don't to my knowledge have any runtime libraries
other than what the installer might install. I don't have a python
interpreter or compiler either. A Compiler sounds a little odd for
Python. Which can be used in scripting too.


Python programming is a scripting language. You will need an
interpreter (not a compiler) to run the Python-based scripts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python...mming_language)

Any author can either bundle Python into their installer (just another
package to install) or go retrieve it if not found on your computer and
then install it. I have use PDFCreator and Bullzip PDF Printer and both
rely on Ghostscript. PDFCreator requires the user to go get and install
Ghostscript. Bullzip looks and will retrieve a copy if not found.

Sometimes when bundled or retrieved, the support software may be either
installed as a global program (in a standard path and any script can use
it) or as a private program that is local to only the parent program
(usually as a subdirectory under the parent program's install path).
For example, you can install the K-Lite Codec pack which is globally
available to all media programs versus VideoLAN's VLC player which
includes its own set of media codecs under its own install path that are
accessible only the VLC player.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BleachBit
"BleachBit is written in the Python programming language and uses
PyGTK."

So you'll need both a Python interpreter (to run the BleachBit scripts)
along with the PyGTK for the graphics library. Neither of those come in
Windows. They have to get installed (or, at least, copied) to your
computer. Python is probably included in most *NIX distributions; that
is, unless you perform a custom OS setup and overtly deselect Python, it
will get included in a *NIX install.

http://www.bleachbit.org/documentation/installation

That doesn't list Python requirements for Windows; however, that does
not preclude the program installer from including a Python installer or
the portable version from including a Python interpreter. Bundling is
often used for Windows packages. The latest released package is at:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ble...leachbit/1.12/

Look in the .gz.tar package. When I tried, Peazip puked on that file.
Besides, .gz (compression) and .tar (archive) are for Linux, not
Windows. So I grabbed the 1.10 released version. They provide an .exe
for its installer but I wasn't interested in decomposing the executable
to find out what is inside. Instead I looked at the portable version.
Yep, that includes Python. Go look.


You can get 7zip for windows and it works with bz2 gz tar iso winrar zip xz
and of course 7z.

Bill


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Old October 25th 16, 09:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

VanguardLH wrote

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ble...leachbit/1.12/
Look in the .gz.tar package. When I tried, Peazip puked on that file.


You can get 7zip for windows and it works with bz2 gz tar iso winrar zip xz
and of course 7z.


Did you actually try to decompress and unarchive that .tar.gz file? It
could be corrupted. I switched from 7Zip to Peazip because Peazip is
faster - and even includes the lib to support 7Zip. If Peazip puked on
that file, so might 7Zip.
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Old October 25th 16, 10:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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VanguardLH wrote:
Bill Cunningham wrote:

VanguardLH wrote

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ble...leachbit/1.12/
Look in the .gz.tar package. When I tried, Peazip puked on that file.

You can get 7zip for windows and it works with bz2 gz tar iso winrar zip xz
and of course 7z.


Did you actually try to decompress and unarchive that .tar.gz file? It
could be corrupted. I switched from 7Zip to Peazip because Peazip is
faster - and even includes the lib to support 7Zip. If Peazip puked on
that file, so might 7Zip.


The BleachBit Portable version, shows the package
comes with "python25.dll", so that's an example
of what handles the python interpretation.

https://s12.postimg.org/fr3cq4n3h/bl...t_portable.gif

The source doesn't necessarily need to have the build
environment documented in it. That would be left
as a "detail for someone building the packages".

Paul
  #11  
Old October 26th 16, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill Cunningham[_2_]
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

Did you actually try to decompress and unarchive that .tar.gz file? It
could be corrupted. I switched from 7Zip to Peazip because Peazip is
faster - and even includes the lib to support 7Zip. If Peazip puked on
that file, so might 7Zip.


Well I did uncompress it. And extracted the tarball into a directory
stored in it. It seems fine to me.

Bill


 




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