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#16
April 11th 18, 09:07 PM
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Blocking ALL Window$ Update servers
On 04/11/2018 01:07 PM, sticks wrote:
[snip] YOU already gave your "approval and consent" to updating when you accepted your Microsoft license terms. That's legal bull****. Most people DON'T give "approval and consent", they click the button that makes the software work. [snip] 
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April 11th 18, 11:10 PM
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On 4/11/2018 3:07 PM, Sam E wrote:
On 04/11/2018 01:07 PM, sticks wrote: [snip] YOU already gave your "approval and consent" to updating when you accepted your Microsoft license terms. That's legal bull****. Most people DON'T give "approval and consent", they click the button that makes the software work. [snip] Oh, OK. Well, that's that then. Thanks for clearing that up.
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April 11th 18, 11:43 PM
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"sticks" wrote
| YOU already gave your "approval and consent" to updating when you | accepted your Microsoft license terms. | | That's legal bull****. Most people DON'T give "approval and consent", | they click the button that makes the software work. | | Oh, OK. Well, that's that then. Thanks for clearing that up. It's a sticky business. EULA clickthroughs have been held up in court. On the other hand, articles have been written about absurd claims they often contain. Microsoft claims, for instance, that anyone clicking through to use .Net tools has no right to review them without permission. So no freedom of speech if you buy .Net. Would you say, "Tough luck. You clicked it." ? Where do you draw the line? They have a right to define terms of the license for the software you're using. That's what the license is. They can't just go saying, "We have the right of surveillance because you bought our stuff." MS also claim that they owe you no support if you buy an OEM computer because you're copy of Windows is licensed to you by that company. They must provide support. So how do Microsoft then claim that you agree to terms of use? You didn't even license it from Microsoft. Then of course there are the issues of monopoly. You don't really have much choice about clicking the license. What else can you do? Buy Apple? It's not as though Microsoft have equivalent competition. Today in Congress, Zuck was being grilled about Facebook terms. Of course everyone agrees to the terms. But people expect a modicum of human decency. Most people don't understand that Zuck is constantly spying on them. And Zuck, along with Google, Apple, MS, etc, is careful to not make it obvious. The Congress men and women don't even understand that. Zuck denies that he spies on non-members. Yet there are Facebook links and script all over the Web. It's easy enough to prove, but the Congresspeople don't understand what they're dealing with. So how can everyone else be expected to?
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April 12th 18, 03:04 PM
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On 12/4/2018 6:43 AM, Mayayana wrote:
....... Congress men and women don't even understand that. Zuck denies that he spies on non-members. Yet there are Facebook links and script all over the Web. It's easy enough to prove, but the Congresspeople don't understand what they're dealing with. So how can everyone else be expected to? Nobody in the computer industry ever wants to guarantee anything. I don't see how the situation could change. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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April 12th 18, 03:29 PM
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On 12/4/2018 2:07 AM, sticks wrote:
YOU already gave your "approval and consent" to updating when you accepted your Microsoft license terms. I still have the right to isolate my Win 10 from doing Window$ Update. "Updates. The software periodically checks for system and app updates, and downloads and installs them for you. You may obtain updates only from Microsoft or authorized sources, and Microsoft may need to update your system to provide you with those updates. By accepting this agreement, you agree to receive these types of automatic updates without any additional notice." Irrelevant! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 銝滚�*硫! 銝滩�擉�! 銝滩陪��! 銝齿螱*�! 銝齿�*�! 銝齿���! 銝滩䌊畾�! 銝齿�蟡�! 隢贝���蝬𨀣螱 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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April 12th 18, 10:51 PM
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On 4/12/2018 9:29 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 12/4/2018 2:07 AM, sticks wrote: You really make it hard to converse with you by continually snipping all the relevant information. So I guess to make my point again, I'll have to put it back. You originally said: "You don't need to argue with Paul on legal issues. It's just about approval and consent." To which I replied: YOU already gave your "approval and consent" to updating when you accepted your Microsoft license terms. I still have the right to isolate my Win 10 from doing Window$ Update. I could care less what you do, and wish you luck. My point was fairly clear in that your claiming MS hasn't got your "approval and consent" is contrary to the facts. Which is why for your benefit I quoted the relevant license agreement below. "Updates. The software periodically checks for system and app updates, and downloads and installs them for you. You may obtain updates only from Microsoft or authorized sources, and Microsoft may need to update your system to provide you with those updates. By accepting this agreement, you agree to receive these types of automatic updates without any additional notice." Irrelevant! It is irrelevant to what you want to do, but not what you said.
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April 13th 18, 04:21 AM
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On 13/4/2018 5:51 AM, sticks wrote:
You really make it hard to converse with you by continually snipping all the relevant information.* So I guess to make my point again, I'll have to put it back. You originally said:* "You don't need to argue with Paul on legal issues. It's just about approval and consent." To which I replied: I could care less what you do, and wish you luck. My point was fairly clear in that your claiming MS hasn't got your "approval and consent" is contrary to the facts. Which is why for your benefit I quoted the relevant license agreement below. I know what you are talking about in terms of the EULA. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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