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#1
April 10th 18, 12:16 PM
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Blocking ALL Window$ Update servers
Anyone got the list of IP addresses and domain names? I don't want my Win 10 being AUTOMATICALLY updated to bring troubles.  -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa 
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April 10th 18, 12:38 PM
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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Anyone got the list of IP addresses and domain names? I don't want my Win 10 being AUTOMATICALLY updated to bring troubles. If you unplug the network cable, you will be *very very* safe. I promise. ******* http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/deta..._minitool.html https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...date_minitool/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...lternative_to/ "For some reason large parts of it is in russian for me. Anyone else have this problem? My Windows-version is swedish. " https://www.tenforums.com/drivers-ha...initool-2.html "Use (WUMT --- download) link listed on page from above link. First you must download the tool (comes in both x86 and x64 versions) then download your preferred language ini file. Place language ini file in same directory as x86 and x64 files. http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...pdate-MiniTool " HTH, Paul
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April 10th 18, 04:50 PM
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In message , Paul
writes: Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Anyone got the list of IP addresses and domain names? I don't want my Win 10 being AUTOMATICALLY updated to bring troubles. If you unplug the network cable, you will be *very very* safe. I promise. Not if wifi is enabled (-: [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Nunc Tutus Exitus Computarus (It is now safe to turn off your computer).
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April 10th 18, 04:58 PM
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On 4/10/2018 11:50 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul writes: Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: *Anyone got the list of IP addresses and domain names? *I don't want my Win 10 being AUTOMATICALLY updated to bring troubles. If you unplug the network cable, you will be *very very* safe. I promise. Not if wifi is enabled (-: [] I depends on which net work cable. The one from the Wall to the router, or the one from the router to the computer ;-) -- 2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre
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April 10th 18, 05:53 PM
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On 10/4/2018 7:38 PM, Paul wrote:
If you unplug the network cable, you will be *very very* safe. I promise. Or switch ALL over to Linux? But then Fedora and Ubuntu also feature update services.  http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/deta..._minitool.html https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...date_minitool/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...lternative_to/ ** "For some reason large parts of it is in russian for me. *** Anyone else have this problem? *** My Windows-version is swedish. ** " https://www.tenforums.com/drivers-ha...initool-2.html * "Use (WUMT --- download) link listed on page from above link. ** First you must download the tool (comes in both x86 and x64 versions) ** then download your preferred language ini file. Place language ini file ** in same directory as x86 and x64 files. ** http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...pdate-MiniTool NO, I don't wanna use any special tool. I don't wanna play game of trust. We just need a list containing all IP addresses and domain names of Window$ Update servers. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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April 10th 18, 05:54 PM
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On 10/4/2018 11:50 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
If you unplug the network cable, you will be *very very* safe. I promise. Not if wifi is enabled (-: And Bluetooth? And Homeplug? -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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April 10th 18, 06:23 PM
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 4/10/2018 11:50 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Paul writes: Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: *Anyone got the list of IP addresses and domain names? *I don't want my Win 10 being AUTOMATICALLY updated to bring troubles. If you unplug the network cable, you will be *very very* safe. I promise. Not if wifi is enabled (-: [] I depends on which net work cable. The one from the Wall to the router, or the one from the router to the computer ;-) Or which cable, if it is the power cable then you have ultimate security ;-) -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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#8
April 10th 18, 10:40 PM
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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
NO, I don't wanna use any special tool. I don't wanna play game of trust. We just need a list containing all IP addresses and domain names of Window$ Update servers. Fine. Then *don't* ask this question again. Do you think blocking IP addresses is a game of MahJong or something ? Blocking is hackery too, and a hackery with no certain outcome. Only... frustration when your subterfuge fails. ******* It's actually illegal to reverse engineer Windows and you can be charged under DMCA. This is why "researchers" who work in official institutions cannot provide us with complete lists of resources needed to "break" windows. Because they could be charged under DMCA. This is one reason, why no researcher will provide us with information about Skype any more. "Legal chill". They were out on a limb when they analyzed the first version of Skype (before Microsoft bought it). Some Skype researchers actually had a separate web page, listing the advice they got from a lawyer. So while you're having fun and games out here, there is a reason why authoritative research doesn't exist, and only dribs and drabs are available. If you do a "professional" job of reverse engineering the OS, and publish from a static web page, they *could* come after you. I think early on, when someone in s social networking site, delivered a list of resources for Windows 10, he "disappeared", and at the time, I suspected some lawyers with DMCA threats played a part. (They may have sent a take-down to the platform he was publishing on.) The dude didn't disappear because his mom had pizza pockets in the microwave. So good luck with figuring out that IP list *on your own*. Paul
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April 11th 18, 03:06 AM
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"Paul" wrote in message news
 Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Anyone got the list of IP addresses and domain names? I don't want my Win 10 being AUTOMATICALLY updated to bring troubles. If you unplug the network cable, you will be *very very* safe. I promise. ******* http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/deta..._minitool.html https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...date_minitool/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...lternative_to/ "For some reason large parts of it is in russian for me. Anyone else have this problem? My Windows-version is swedish. " https://www.tenforums.com/drivers-ha...initool-2.html "Use (WUMT --- download) link listed on page from above link. First you must download the tool (comes in both x86 and x64 versions) then download your preferred language ini file. Place language ini file in same directory as x86 and x64 files. http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...pdate-MiniTool " HTH, Paul Paul, I don't see the original post (probably filtered out) so I'll just drop in here to add my two cents. You can use the following FQDN's but I seriously doubt this is complete but these are posted on the MS TechNet site and current as of Apr 2015 http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com http://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com https://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com http://*.update.microsoft.com https://*.update.microsoft.com http://*.windowsupdate.com http://download.windowsupdate.com http://download.microsoft.com http://*.download.windowsupdate.com http://test.stats.update.microsoft.com http://ntservicepack.microsoft.com MS has WSUS servers all over the world. You could try using WireShark to trap URL's by manually triggering an update from several systems to catch a few. Then in your firewall blocks those and see what Win10 does - it spits out another IP after it fails to contact the first server. With all the WSUS servers and mechanisms within Win10 to overcome permanently blocking updates - you're in for a long day. Here's a post on MS Partner support forum that may help as well as a hot link within that post: https://partnersupport.microsoft.com...f-521c45fbffcd -- Bob S.
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April 11th 18, 03:27 AM
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On 2018-04-10, Paul wrote:
It's actually illegal to reverse engineer Windows and you can be charged under DMCA. You can only be charged under DMCA if you live in the United States. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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April 11th 18, 05:13 AM
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Bob_S wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message news Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Anyone got the list of IP addresses and domain names? I don't want my Win 10 being AUTOMATICALLY updated to bring troubles. If you unplug the network cable, you will be *very very* safe. I promise. ******* http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/deta..._minitool.html https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...date_minitool/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...lternative_to/ "For some reason large parts of it is in russian for me. Anyone else have this problem? My Windows-version is swedish. " https://www.tenforums.com/drivers-ha...initool-2.html "Use (WUMT --- download) link listed on page from above link. First you must download the tool (comes in both x86 and x64 versions) then download your preferred language ini file. Place language ini file in same directory as x86 and x64 files. http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...pdate-MiniTool " HTH, Paul Paul, I don't see the original post (probably filtered out) so I'll just drop in here to add my two cents. You can use the following FQDN's but I seriously doubt this is complete but these are posted on the MS TechNet site and current as of Apr 2015 http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com http://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com https://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com http://*.update.microsoft.com https://*.update.microsoft.com http://*.windowsupdate.com http://download.windowsupdate.com http://download.microsoft.com http://*.download.windowsupdate.com http://test.stats.update.microsoft.com http://ntservicepack.microsoft.com MS has WSUS servers all over the world. You could try using WireShark to trap URL's by manually triggering an update from several systems to catch a few. Then in your firewall blocks those and see what Win10 does - it spits out another IP after it fails to contact the first server. With all the WSUS servers and mechanisms within Win10 to overcome permanently blocking updates - you're in for a long day. Here's a post on MS Partner support forum that may help as well as a hot link within that post: https://partnersupport.microsoft.com...f-521c45fbffcd Microsoft has a series of canned IP addresses with no reverse lookup. They're used in case the user blocks the regular ones. For example, my Win10 box contacted the "vortex" server while I was running Wireshark. The Wireshark trace didn't list a symbolic address. Using nslookup, I didn't get a symbolic address either. Which means my computer did not contact a local DNS server, to obtain the numeric IP address in question. Using a web server offering DNS translations, I could see it was the vortex server. If a network operation doesn't require consulting a HOSTS file, I don't see how loading the file up with stuff will help. That's what the guy in some forum was pointing out. Once a piece of software resorts to such techniques, now they don't even need to keep a list, or keep an obfuscated list, or keep en encrypted IP list. Tney can use algorithmically generated IP addresses, just the way that malware uses to contact C&C servers. Where the domains are registered hours before they're needed, to keep contact with the C&C working. A simple math equation, generates an infinite list of IPs. Paul
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April 11th 18, 04:27 PM
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On 11/4/2018 12:13 PM, Paul wrote:
Microsoft has a series of canned IP addresses with no reverse lookup. They're used in case the user blocks the regular ones. For example, my Win10 box contacted the "vortex" server while I was running Wireshark. The Wireshark trace didn't list a symbolic address. Using nslookup, I didn't get a symbolic address either. Which means my computer did not contact a local DNS server, to obtain the numeric IP address in question. Is this a military requirement? Requested by US Senates? -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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April 11th 18, 04:40 PM
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On 11/4/2018 5:40 AM, Paul wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: NO, I don't wanna use any special tool. I don't wanna play game of trust. We just need a list containing all IP addresses and domain names of Window$ Update servers. Fine. Then *don't* ask this question again. Do you think blocking IP addresses is a game of MahJong or something ? Blocking is hackery too, and a hackery with no certain outcome. Only... frustration when your subterfuge fails. I would like to prevent my own Win 10 from reaching Micro$oft without APPROVAL and CONSENT. That's all. You can do the same if you wish, as it's your home and your computer! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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April 11th 18, 04:41 PM
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On 11/4/2018 10:27 AM, Roger Blake wrote:
You can only be charged under DMCA if you live in the United States. You don't need to argue with Paul on legal issues. It's just about approval and consent. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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April 11th 18, 07:07 PM
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On 4/11/2018 10:41 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 11/4/2018 10:27 AM, Roger Blake wrote: You can only be charged under DMCA if you live in the United States. You don't need to argue with Paul on legal issues. It's just about approval and consent. YOU already gave your "approval and consent" to updating when you accepted your Microsoft license terms. "Updates. The software periodically checks for system and app updates, and downloads and installs them for you. You may obtain updates only from Microsoft or authorized sources, and Microsoft may need to update your system to provide you with those updates. By accepting this agreement, you agree to receive these types of automatic updates without any additional notice."
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