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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
I'm only throwing at you what the
computer is giving me and if you're confused you can image how I am. It doesn't respond to F12 or F8 even after powering the computer offon and restarting it several times. So even though it booted fine and seems fine its bypasses the F12 and F8 commands. I thought all I needed was the rescue disk. Again if I use Macrium to create an OS for the 1TB won't that wipe everything out? You also said if I could download and install FF maybe the bookmarks are still there? Robert |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
Mark Twain wrote:
I'm only throwing at you what the computer is giving me and if you're confused you can image how I am. It doesn't respond to F12 or F8 even after powering the computer offon and restarting it several times. So even though it booted fine and seems fine its bypasses the F12 and F8 commands. I thought all I needed was the rescue disk. Again if I use Macrium to create an OS for the 1TB won't that wipe everything out? You also said if I could download and install FF maybe the bookmarks are still there? Robert But you still haven't told me the format of these bookmarks of yours. The internal representation, is stored in bookmarkbackups. And the file extension is jsonlz4. You're not likely to be keeping a shortcut that points to that directory, as the format is not readable by humans. I had to write a very short C program, to be able to get at those files. If you do an "Export" in Firefox, of the bookmarks it keeps, that file output is HTML and portable to other platforms and situations. A human can read such a file, or click stuff in it and so on. You can easily read the URLs in such a file. The "Exported" file would not be kept in either of the FIrefox folders. You'd keep it in your home directory or something. You can reinstall Firefox, using the installer on the download page. You could use the 8200 to snag the file if need be. How this typically works in 2015, is this is a stub installer (only a few megabytes). When you click the downloaded stub file, it will download the rest of the installer for the purpose. Why this is necessary, isn't clear. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ You can use Agent Ransack and look for bookmark jsonlz4 htm html and so on, looking for things that match your expectation of the bookmark format you were using. It's quite possible you have two copies of the same information. The jsonlz4 copies (usable once you fix up a working copy of Firefox on the machine). Or the HTML file you exported at some point. I don't export mine all that often, maybe twice a year for safety. If you have been copying and pasting URLs into a Notepad text document, then that's entirely different. And you'd enter the most likely file name you've been using for that. If you're booted from the 2TB, you can spend as much time as you like carrying out Agent Ransack searches of the 1TB drive. Paul |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
I haven't connected the 1TB to run
Agent Ransack because you told me not to use it. However while it was connected I did find the bookmarkbackups and the jsonlz4 files but you said they weren't actually bookmarks. Sorry about that. Since I can't seem to change the BIOS/boot order for whatever reason how about either 1. put the 1TB HD back into the 8500 and try to reinstall FF and hopefully the bookmarks come back. We can also run the Kaspersky CD because I have that. 2. put the 1TB HD in the Star Tech case and access it via USB for the files/bookmarks and copy/paste them over to the 2TB HD. Then either create a Macrium OS CD What do you think? Robert |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
p.s.
I believe my files were JSON not jsonlz4 R |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
Mark Twain wrote:
p.s. I believe my files were JSON not jsonlz4 R That depends on the version of Firefox. Paul |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
Mark Twain wrote:
I haven't connected the 1TB to run Agent Ransack because you told me not to use it. However while it was connected I did find the bookmarkbackups and the jsonlz4 files but you said they weren't actually bookmarks. Sorry about that. Since I can't seem to change the BIOS/boot order for whatever reason how about either 1. put the 1TB HD back into the 8500 and try to reinstall FF and hopefully the bookmarks come back. We can also run the Kaspersky CD because I have that. 2. put the 1TB HD in the Star Tech case and access it via USB for the files/bookmarks and copy/paste them over to the 2TB HD. Then either create a Macrium OS CD What do you think? Robert http://downloads.dell.com/Manuals/al...nual_en-us.pdf "Entering System Setup 1) Turn on (or restart) your computer. 2) During POST, when the DELL logo is displayed, watch for the F2 prompt to appear and then press F2 immediately. " That's how you get to the boot order screen. The Boot one is the third one over, look at the manual pages. And when you Exit, you select "Save changes and Reset" to keep the new boot order. Main Advanced Boot Power Security Exit If you want to make a temporary change in the boot order, the manual hints at F12 as the key to press. But the wording in the manual is pretty wishy-washy. ******* Putting the 1TB drive in the StarTech case would be a win, if we could be sure the enclosure and wall adapter were healthy. We still don't know why the 2TB drive was not appearing when it was inside the enclosure. That's my concern with the enclosure at the moment. You can put both the 1TB and 2TB drives in the computer, as long as you use the F2 (permanent boot order) or F12 (temporary boot order), to get the 2TB drive to do the booting. Then you can do some Agent Ransack or use that 360 program if you want, installed into the 2TB drive OS. Paul |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
I tried the F2 but it still was unresponsive
so I put the 1TB drive into the Star Tech case and connected it via USB and it gave me this: http://i67.tinypic.com/2ey87de.jpg I then realized I was looking at the K drive when I should have looked at the E: http://i63.tinypic.com/if20c6.jpg Robert |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
Mark Twain wrote:
I tried the F2 but it still was unresponsive so I put the 1TB drive into the Star Tech case and connected it via USB and it gave me this: http://i67.tinypic.com/2ey87de.jpg I then realized I was looking at the K drive when I should have looked at the E: http://i63.tinypic.com/if20c6.jpg Robert Sometimes, it helps to look in Disk Management, as it gives a better view of the contents of the disk drives. The 1TB drive, J: is the OS partition on that drive. J:\users\rob would be the home directory area on the 1TB drive for example. J: is where all your troubles started. Whereas K: looks to be perhaps some Dell partition. You are booted off the WD Black 2TB. The C: partition is the cloned (old) OS copy. The E: partition is the huge data partition you prepared on the 2TB drive, to hold your Macrium .mrimg files. The files you deleted, would be on J: . J: might have your jsonlz4 files, and as long as those files have a significant file size, that would be proof you haven't lost your bookmarks. If you run the 360 data recovery, it would be J: you are interested in. And you would store the output on E: (remembering to create a directory to work in on E: first - don't just let the 360 program "spray" E: with files). That's if you wanted to attempt to scan J: to see if you could figure out what files got deleted. Note that a tool like 360, might possibly find a hundred thousand files, so you'd have to wade through a tremendous amount of stuff. You can't really re-install Firefox at the moment, because it would get installed on C:, which is the 2TB drive. Whereas, your "lonely" bookmarks are on the 1TB J: drive. You would need to boot the 1TB drive, to do that install. The way you're running at this instant in time, it would be a good time to try out the "360" application. Or, a good time to do some sort of AV scan perhaps. Or a good time to do a bit of Agent Ransack searching. I bet you never thought having two drives would be so complicated. But on the other hand, look how having that second drive has "saved your bacon" :-) Even if your backup scheme isn't running at 100% yet, you at least have something to fall back on. It still boots. I will put another idea in a separate post. Paul |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
I did a few scan with Agent Ransack
and found a few things but not the folder I'm looking for but I thought you might be interested in these: http://i64.tinypic.com/11vmgl4.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/119809x.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/2mzihl5.jpg Robert |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
Does the 360 have a feature to select which
drive to scan? Otherwise how will I be able to run it on the 1TB? Robert |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
Let's call it a night besides I need
to re-read your messages and get some sleep. We can pick it up again tomorrow. Thanks, Robert |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
Mark Twain wrote:
I tried the F2 but it still was unresponsive so I put the 1TB drive into the Star Tech case and connected it via USB and it gave me this: http://i67.tinypic.com/2ey87de.jpg I then realized I was looking at the K drive when I should have looked at the E: http://i63.tinypic.com/if20c6.jpg Robert I see in your second picture, you located a copy of "Exported" bookmarks.html. And at 7MB, that's a pretty big file. Mine is 2.9MB. So you probably don't need the following idea. ******* It occurred to me while I was sending the previous post, there is actually a way to access the bookmarks on the other drive. Right now, you have the C: drive (old OS) on the 2TB. You have the J: drive, with the unknown bookmarkbackups on it. Firefox has a command line option. firefox -p When you do that, instead of the browser window showing up right away, a dialog appears first. This picture is just to give a rough idea what it looks like. http://cdn-3.askdavetaylor.com/0-blo...le-manager.jpg On the right, you can see the word "Default". You are booted on the C: drive right now. If you hold your mouse over the word "Default", it will say: C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\ Profiles\vpyfp7p7.default\ Now, if you were to Create a new profile in there, it will ask for details. The name of the profile would be "My 1TB profile", as we need a descriptive way to label it. Next, you'd use the Browse button, to select a folder to use for the profile. J:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\ Profiles\12345678.default\ What that does, is place a second entry in the Profile Manager. You wouldn't want that one to be the default necessarily, but by making a new entry in that menu, it gives you access. So, say later, after creating this new entry, you again do: firefox -p You can click on one of the two entries and have Firefox use it. If you click on the new entry you made, and tell Firefox to start up using that folder, then your newest bookmarks become available. Now, you can use the Bookmark manager in Firefox, and do an Export, to make the latest version of bookmarks. You could store that as E:\bookmarks__Nov5_2015.html . Since you have not changed the default status of the Default entry, any normal invocation of Firefox would use the regular profile on C: . Only by doing Firefox -p, do you get a chance to select a different profile, like the one on J: which has your most recent bookmarks. So what are some disadvantages of doing that ? There could be some file writes to the J: drive, which reduces your odds of recovering lost files. So that's a slight risk. One of the tough parts of getting this to work, is Firefox isn't in the executable %path%. You need to change directory first, so you're in the directory that contains the Firefox program. It would go like this. cd /d "C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox" firefox -p And then Firefox can be located in that folder and it will run. You get the profile selection dialog first, and after you're finished working inside that dialog, the browser starts running. So that's a way to access some bookmarks on another disk, in some other copy of Firefox. Another note - I can only advocate this method, because I know the versions of Firefox on the two drives will be very similar. The data formats used should be reasonably similar. Even if one copy of Firefox attempts to "migrate" the other profile, it probably won't hurt it. But I wouldn't do that, if one copy of Firefox was Firefox 42, and the other one was Firefox 3. Something could get screwed up in that case. Paul |
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O.T. deleted bookmark, can't sign-on to FF
Since I have the booksmarks how do I go
about getting them back? Should I reinstall the 1TB HD and try to get FF running? Thanks, Robert |
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