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But what does any of this have to do with Bruce
Chambers oft-repeated but bogus claim that one wouldn't be in compliance with "COPYRIGHT LAWS" for installing software on more than one computer! If he would just say that one would not be in compliance with the EULA, that would be the truth, though that still wouldn't mean that a court would actually enforce it on individuals, if MS ever grew the balls to actually enforce their EULA on individuals by legal means thru the court system, but that's Contract Law. Bruce, or anyone else, has never found one US copyright law that an individual would not be in compliance with when installing the same copy of software on more than one computer! Or do you condone his repeatedly posting 218 times that which nobody has been able to prove, because there are no existing US copyright laws that prohibits an individual from installing the same copy of software on more than one computer?! Or is that how you MS-MVP's earn your free MSDN subscriptions by misrepresenting the truth for MS?! Or don't you know how to answer a question to begin with? -- Kurtis Kirsch [I bet Jupiter still ignores answering this valid post! Complaining about my sig, instead of try to counter my valid points, and to avoid answering my questions!] |
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![]() "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message = ... Ted; Your name calling shows your true character just as the other poster showed his true self. People resort to name calling when they lack the ability to support their position and need all the help they can get to support their position. Come back when you have points that do not include your silly name calling. Perhaps then you may be taken seriously. You pillockling weakling! Nothing worse than a "namecalling" lamer, to = excercise their excuse to not explain, why they support lies, and = unethical behaviour |
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![]() "kurttrail" wrote in = message ... Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote: =20 Your signature explains your attitude. "Peace"... =20 Peace - Inner contentment; serenity - http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=3Dpeace =20 you do not appear to believe in it =20 I wish that all have the Inner contentment I have found! =20 "Self-anointed Moderator"...Absolutely meaningless =20 Self-deprecating Humor! =20 The rest...describes your true beliefs and intentions =20 Like "Trustworthy Computing" isn't an oxymoron? MS wouldn't have an average of about a patch a week after SP1, if Windows XP were truely trustworthy! SP1 came out long after MS announce their "Trustworthy Computing" initiative, not to mention the patch they had to rework, = nor that DX9 in now in a "b" version! =20 And to me, putting an OS with PA on my machine is analogous to putting my computer into a MS concentration camp! =20 No response necessary unless you like to talk to yourself and have = the last word (little doubt you do) =20 Or I want to challenge you to actually answer my post rather than attacking to me in order to avoid answering my legitimate questions! =20 Is that something they teach in MS-MVP school, how to not reply to questions you don't want to answer, by attacking the questioner? =20 You got to love it, when they reply that way; it reinforces your stance, = while they grope each other as MVPs in one big group hug! |
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Ted" """""'"""""" wrote:
You got to love it, when they reply that way; it reinforces your stance, while they grope each other as MVPs in one big group hug! Yes! And then they run & hide from the truth, like it was a contagious disease! MS-MVP are like the monkey that keeps his eyes covered with his hands, if they don't see the truth, then they don't have to acknowledge that it exists, and then they can continue living, blissfully ignorant, in their MicroFantasyLand!!! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
Rob; What you read is wrong. As with all consumer Microsoft OSs, one license, one computer. And you've read every single EULA, since the original Windows, right?! If you want Windows XP on both computers, you need to buy a second copy. Need! LOL! It is not relevant that you are home or business, small or large network etc. Actually, it is relevant under copyright law! It's just not relevent according to MS's interpretation of their own EULA, which is highly suspect to begin with, when it comes to private individuals, as I've already shown elsewhere in the thread! You will not be able to activate the second installation. What a line of bull! All the OP has to do wait 120 days, and his second installation will go through via the internet, as MS purges the PA data from the first installation after 120 days http://microscum.kurttrail.com/mmpafaq/mmpafaq.htm -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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Phe@rsome wrote:
You heard wrong! Obviosly some morons can't *READ*! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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Cherry Qian (msft) wrote:
Hi Rob, Thank you for the posting. As you indicated you want to install the same copy of Windows XP Pro on two computers of your home network. To answer your question. This is not recommended. To do so, you need to get "Microsoft Windows XP Additional License" Home Edition $89.10 Professional Edition $189 Under the Windows XP End-User License Agreement (EULA), you may install one licensed copy of Windows XP on one computer. If you need to install Windows XP on more than one computer that you own, you may qualify to purchase up to three (3) discounted additional licenses in one of the following ways. Purchase Online ============== To provide a better product experience for our customers and immediate access to additional licenses, Microsoft has partnered with participating online retailers in the U.S. to allow you to purchase and use a Windows XP license from the convenience of your home or small business. Here¡¯s how: 1. Enter either your current Windows XP Product ID or Product Key in the boxes below, and then click Submit. 2. You¡¯ll learn whether you qualify for an additional license as well as which license you qualify for--the full version or version upgrade. 3. Purchase your Windows XP Additional License Product Key for an additional license directly from a Microsoft-approved reseller. A Product Key is an electronic number that "unlocks" Windows XP and allows it to run. 4. After you purchase a Product Key, the key will be displayed on your screen and you'll receive a confirmation e-mail message that also contains the key Purchase at a Retail Store ======================= Microsoft has offered retailers in the U.S. and Canada the ability to sell additional licenses at a discount. If you own a licensed copy of Windows XP, and want to buy an additional license in packaged form, check with your local retailer. Purchase via Telephone ====================== Microsoft also offers an additional license service to customers who have legally installed Windows XP and have an immediate need for an additional license due to work stoppage or other unforeseen circumstance. In the U.S. and Canada, call the Windows Product Activation Call Center at 888-571-2048 for more information on how you can take advantage of this service. Hope the above information and suggestion helps and answers your question. If anything is unclear, please let me know. And this is what PA is all about, tricking people into buying more software than they legally need! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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PaulM wrote:
Nope! You can not do that, you need two copies. Oh yes he can! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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Not legally.
Are you again suggesting unethical behaviour? No surprise coming from you. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] An easier way to read newsgroup messages: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...oups/setup.asp http://dts-l.org/index.html "kurttrail" wrote in message ... Oh yes he can! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
Not legally. It's legal in the US! Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 117. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs (a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. - Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided: (1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or (2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful. The following is a translation of Section 117 (a) from the legalese using MS's own definitions: Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117. - Limitations on the exclusive rights of Copyright Owners: Computer programs (a) Making of Additional Installation by the Owner of a Copy of Software. - It is not infringement for the owner of a copy of software to make another installation provided: (1) that such a new installation is made as a necessary step in making use of the software together with a previously unknown computer and that it is used in no other manner, or "(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful" Installation - http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/featur...rch=adaptation made -http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResult s.aspx?search=created necessary - http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/featur...arch=essential making use - http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/featur...search=utilize together with - http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/featur...ch=conjunction a previously unknown - http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/featur...fid=1861582871 or - http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/featur...aspx?search=or Are you again suggesting unethical behaviour? Not at all! It's not unethical to follow the laws of Congress over that of a contract! "Shrinkwrap licenses are enforceable unless their terms are objectionable on grounds applicable to contracts in general (for example, if they violate a rule of positive law, or if they are unconscionable)." - http://www.law.emory.edu/7circuit/june96/96-1139.html And there is absolutely no law that prohibits breaking any contract, in and of itself! No surprise coming from you. Ask a question, and don't bother waiting for an answer! No surprise coming from *YOU*! Now I have shown you more respect than you deserve, considering your previous attack on me & my sig, so when are you gonna answer me, in a like fashion? "But what does any of this have to do with what I wrote, or Bruce Chambers oft-repeated but bogus claim that one wouldn't be in compliance with "COPYRIGHT LAWS" for installing software on more than one computer! If he would just say that one would not be in compliance with the EULA, that would be the truth, though that still wouldn't mean that a court would actually enforce it on individuals, if MS ever grew the balls to actually enforce their EULA on individuals by legal means thru the court system, but that's Contract Law. Bruce, or anyone else, has never found one US copyright law that an individual would not be in compliance with when installing the same copy of software on more than one computer!" "Or do you condone his repeatedly posting 218 times that which nobody has been able to prove, because there are no existing US copyright laws that prohibits an individual from installing the same copy of software on more than one computer?!" "Or is that how you MS-MVP's earn your free MSDN subscriptions by misrepresenting the truth for MS?!" Stop playing games or are you just innately incapable of discussing this in a rational manner?! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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![]() "kurttrail" wrote in message ... Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote: Not legally. It's legal in the US! Prove it! -- Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP http://michaelstevenstech.com For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader. http://michaelstevenstech.com/outloo...snewreader.htm |
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Michael Stevens wrote:
"kurttrail" wrote in message ... Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote: Not legally. It's legal in the US! Prove it! I already did, by showing a law that allows it. You know, the part you snipped out without indicating that you snipped anything out! If MS doesn't think the law applies, then they can sue me, but that doesn't mean this law doesn't apply! I follow the law, not the copyright owners interpretation of what they think they can get away with under the law! Now you can either prove why the law isn't applicable, or why you think an individual is doing something illegal by installing the same copy of software on more than one computer! "But what does any of this have to do with what I wrote, or Bruce Chambers oft-repeated but bogus claim that one wouldn't be in compliance with "COPYRIGHT LAWS" for installing software on more than one computer! If he would just say that one would not be in compliance with the EULA, that would be the truth, though that still wouldn't mean that a court would actually enforce it on individuals, if MS ever grew the balls to actually enforce their EULA on individuals by legal means thru the court system, but that's Contract Law. Bruce, or anyone else, has never found one US copyright law that an individual would not be in compliance with when installing the same copy of software on more than one computer!" "Or do you condone his repeatedly posting 218 times that which nobody has been able to prove, because there are no existing US copyright laws that prohibits an individual from installing the same copy of software on more than one computer?!" "Or is that how you MS-MVP's earn your free MSDN subscriptions by misrepresenting the truth for MS?!" -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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Hi Kurt,
Thank you for the posting again. Below are the the licensing program for Windows XP. Retail Pricing for Windows XP Professional ====================================== Windows XP Professional is available as a full product or as an upgrade from Windows 98/Windows 98 SE, Windows Me, Windows NT Workstation 4.0, Windows 2000 Professional, or Windows XP Home Edition. Under the Windows XP End-User License Agreement (EULA), you may install one licensed copy of Windows XP on one computer. If you need to install Windows XP on more than one computer that you own, you may qualify to purchase up to three (3) discounted additional licenses in one of the following ways. Purchase Online Purchase at a Retail Store Purchase via Telephone http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...cingretail.asp Windows XP Professional Volume Licensing Discounts for Organizations ================================================== =========== Microsoft is simplifying how customers acquire and administer volume licenses. Called Software Assurance, this new program will help to ensure that you have continual access to the most current software at the best rates. You may enjoy significant savings by purchasing Windows XP Professional licenses in volume. Use the table below to choose the volume licensing option that is right for the size and type of your organization. Through one of the volume licensing programs listed in the table below, you may purchase a Windows XP Professional Upgrade License. Because the volume licensing programs require that a licensed operating system already exists on a computer, the only operating system license offered is the upgrade. Full licenses are available through retail or computer manufacturers (preinstalled on a new computer) only. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...cingvolume.asp For more details, please visit the Microsoft Licensing site: http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/default.asp Hope the above information and suggestion helps and answers your question. If anything is unclear, please let me know. Sincerely, Cherry Qian MCSE2000, MCSA2000, MCDBA2000 Microsoft Partner Online Support Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security ================================================== == When responding to posts, please Reply to Group via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ================================================== == This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights. |
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Cherry Qian (msft) wrote:
Hi Kurt, Thank you for the posting again. Below are the the licensing program for Windows XP. Retail Pricing for Windows XP Professional ====================================== Windows XP Professional is available as a full product or as an upgrade from Windows 98/Windows 98 SE, Windows Me, Windows NT Workstation 4.0, Windows 2000 Professional, or Windows XP Home Edition. Under the Windows XP End-User License Agreement (EULA), you may install one licensed copy of Windows XP on one computer. If you need to install Windows XP on more than one computer that you own, you may qualify to purchase up to three (3) discounted additional licenses in one of the following ways. Purchase Online Purchase at a Retail Store Purchase via Telephone http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...cingretail.asp Windows XP Professional Volume Licensing Discounts for Organizations ================================================== =========== Microsoft is simplifying how customers acquire and administer volume licenses. Called Software Assurance, this new program will help to ensure that you have continual access to the most current software at the best rates. You may enjoy significant savings by purchasing Windows XP Professional licenses in volume. Use the table below to choose the volume licensing option that is right for the size and type of your organization. Through one of the volume licensing programs listed in the table below, you may purchase a Windows XP Professional Upgrade License. Because the volume licensing programs require that a licensed operating system already exists on a computer, the only operating system license offered is the upgrade. Full licenses are available through retail or computer manufacturers (preinstalled on a new computer) only. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...cingvolume.asp For more details, please visit the Microsoft Licensing site: http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/default.asp Hope the above information and suggestion helps and answers your question. If anything is unclear, please let me know. Sincerely, Cherry Qian MCSE2000, MCSA2000, MCDBA2000 Microsoft Partner Online Support Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security ================================================== == When responding to posts, please Reply to Group via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ================================================== == This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights. Thank you for your off-topic SPAM! "Wasting somebody else's time strikes me as the height of rudeness. We have only so many hours, and none to waste." - Bill Gates - http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/c...ay/3-25col.asp Didn't you get the memo Cherry?! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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kurttrail wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote: Not legally. snip Stop playing games or are you just innately incapable of discussing this in a rational manner?! You're silence speaks volumes! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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