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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
Apple's iPhone X is likely to be discontinued this year if
earnings from one of the company's top suppliers is anything to go by, according to an analyst. Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, or TSMC, the world's largest semiconductor foundry company, revised its full-year revenue target to the low end of its forecast. Shares in the company closed 6.3 percent lower on Friday. One of the biggest concerns for Neil Campling, the co-head of the global thematic group focusing on technology at Mirabaud Securities, is the oversupply of chips. This "has never been higher," according to Campling's note to clients Thursday. His firm has tracked inventory data at TSMC for over a decade. The chipmaker's current situation could give investors concerns over AMS, Apple's key supplier of 3-D sensing technology in the iPhone X. The 3-D sensors are key for the Face ID feature that lets you unlock the device by looking at it. TSMC's record inventory levels are due to Apple not buying components for any future iPhone X models, suggesting the device will be killed off this year, Campling said. "With the declines in iPhone X orders and the inventory issue at TSMC at record highs, which basically reflect a need to burn off inventory. Why? Because the iPhone X is dead," Campling wrote in his note. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/20/appl...ontinued-this- year-analyst-says.html |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
In article , Nomen Nescio
wrote: Apple's iPhone X is likely to be discontinued this year if earnings from one of the company's top suppliers is anything to go by, according to an analyst. supplier earnings means very little and even if the *existing* model is discontinued, there will be *other* x models (plural) that will replace it. tl;dr ignore analysts. |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
On 2018-04-21, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Apple's iPhone X is likely to be discontinued this year if That the dip**** troll couldn't even figure out to post this bit of bull**** hyperbole to the iPhone newsgroup tells us all we need to know about him... These morons have been claiming Apple's latest product is "DOOOOOOOMED, I TELL YOU" for literal decades. Meanwhile, Apple continues to inexplicably do just fine, and the trollish petty jealousy persists. It'd be funny if it wasn't so damned pathetic. "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time iPhone build orders inevitably slow after holidays, but Apple stock has generally held up well in previous years after short-term drops Apple shares declined Monday after a report that iPhone production had slowed, and they fell again Tuesday on a few more reports. If that sounds familiar, congratulations for paying attention. The big difference this time is that the production-decline rumors are coming a month later than normal for the iPhone X, which should be expected because that new model began selling later than other iPhones. Apple investors should be familiar with this show. iPhone shipments traditionally peak during the holiday quarter, right after a new model is announced. Then they taper off in the new year as shoppers opt for a greater mix of older models—or figure they can wait around until the next latest and greatest version comes out in the fall." https://www.marke****ch.com/story/apple-iphone-production-slowdown-this-happens-every-year-and-hits-stock-every-time-2018-01-29 -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
In article , Jolly Roger
wrote: Apple's iPhone X is likely to be discontinued this year if "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be *very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
On 2018-04-21, nospam wrote:
In article , Jolly Roger wrote: Apple's iPhone X is likely to be discontinued this year if "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be *very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Yup. And US politicians are complicit because some of that money ends up in their bank accounts. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
In article , Wolf K
wrote: "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be *very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Why. because stock market manipulation is illegal. https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answerstmanipulhtm.html Manipulation is intentional conduct designed to deceive investors by controlling or artificially affecting the market for a security. Manipulation can involve a number of techniques to affect the supply of, or demand for, a stock. They include: spreading false or misleading information about a company; improperly limiting the number of publicly-available shares; or rigging quotes, prices or trades to create a false or deceptive picture of the demand for a security. Those who engage in manipulation are subject to various civil and criminal sanctions. For fooling other gamblers? The very essence of gambling is to be fooled. they're not fooling gamblers and the stock market is not gambling. they're intentionally making false and misleading claims for their own personal gain and that of their clients. |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
In article , Wolf K
wrote: "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be*very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Why. because stock market manipulation is illegal. True, but how would you prove that an earnings forecast is market manipulation? because it's a pattern that repeats itself every year, or even every quarter. either they're incredibly ****ty analysts, or they're gaming the system. even a few percent swing can result in many millions of dollars in profits, so you can be sure it's the latter. |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
On 04/21/2018 08:37 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Wolf K wrote: "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be*very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Why. because stock market manipulation is illegal. True, but how would you prove that an earnings forecast is market manipulation? because it's a pattern that repeats itself every year, or even every quarter. either they're incredibly ****ty analysts, or they're gaming the system. even a few percent swing can result in many millions of dollars in profits, so you can be sure it's the latter. If I read between your arguments right and the original article, they are not doing anything illegal. It's not insider trading, it's twisting the facts to make an opinionated observation. Same thing TV and Newspapers do. Does your local news show you anything about the arts and entertainments in your city, or how many people are shot (favorite item in the US lately)? These analysts should be shot just like a lot of other reporters, but we the public should be wiser than that. And I would suppose that stock traders are a bit smarter than you think, I worked in the stock market for 20 years. |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
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nospam wrote: In article , Wolf K wrote: "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be *very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Why. because stock market manipulation is illegal. https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answerstmanipulhtm.html Manipulation is intentional conduct designed to deceive investors by controlling or artificially affecting the market for a security. Manipulation can involve a number of techniques to affect the supply of, or demand for, a stock. They include: spreading false or misleading information about a company; improperly limiting the number of publicly-available shares; or rigging quotes, prices or trades to create a false or deceptive picture of the demand for a security. Those who engage in manipulation are subject to various civil and criminal sanctions. For fooling other gamblers? The very essence of gambling is to be fooled. they're not fooling gamblers and the stock market is not gambling. they're intentionally making false and misleading claims for their own personal gain and that of their clients. |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
In article Big Al wrote: On 04/21/2018 08:37 PM, nospam wrote: In article , Wolf K wrote: "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be*very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Why. because stock market manipulation is illegal. True, but how would you prove that an earnings forecast is market manipulation? because it's a pattern that repeats itself every year, or even every quarter. either they're incredibly ****ty analysts, or they're gaming the system. even a few percent swing can result in many millions of dollars in profits, so you can be sure it's the latter. If I read between your arguments right and the original article, they are not doing anything illegal. It's not insider trading, it's twisting the facts to make an opinionated observation. Same thing TV and Newspapers do. Does your local news show you anything about the arts and entertainments in your city, or how many people are shot (favorite item in the US lately)? These analysts should be shot just like a lot of other reporters, but we the public should be wiser than that. And I would suppose that stock traders are a bit smarter than you think, I worked in the stock market for 20 years. |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
On 2018-04-21, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-04-21 13:37, nospam wrote: In article , Jolly Roger wrote: Apple's iPhone X is likely to be discontinued this year if "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be *very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Why. For fooling other gamblers? The very essence of gambling is to be fooled. If the stock market was gambling it would be illegal in many places in the USA where gambling is prohibited. Manipulating the market for your is something people are often locked up for, but more often than that corporations and the people who run them get away with it due to corruption of government by special interests. Your 401K and many things you depend on in turn depend on the stock market not being illegally manipulated. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
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Jolly Roger wrote: On 2018-04-22, Big Al wrote: On 04/21/2018 08:37 PM, nospam wrote: In article , Wolf K wrote: "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be*very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Why. because stock market manipulation is illegal. True, but how would you prove that an earnings forecast is market manipulation? because it's a pattern that repeats itself every year, or even every quarter. either they're incredibly ****ty analysts, or they're gaming the system. even a few percent swing can result in many millions of dollars in profits, so you can be sure it's the latter. If I read between your arguments right and the original article, they are not doing anything illegal. Then you either read wrong or you are just very ignorant of the laws and why we have them. Gaming the system at the disadvantage of the system itself isn't legal, nor is it morally right because it ****s over everyone invested in the market. That includes our ****ing retirement, which most reasonable adults tend to care about rather than gleefully flitter away in the breeze. RTFM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_manipulation It's not insider trading, it's twisting the facts to make an opinionated observation. And lying to manipulate people is exactly what is illegal when it manipulates the market everyone depends on. I understand in the Trump era that's not seen a morally corrupt, but such idiocy isn't deserving of laws to protect it when the reality is fraudulent stock market manipulation hurts everyone. [remainder of inanity rightfully ignored] -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
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Jolly Roger wrote: On 2018-04-21, Wolf K wrote: On 2018-04-21 13:37, nospam wrote: In article , Jolly Roger wrote: Apple's iPhone X is likely to be discontinued this year if "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be *very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Why. For fooling other gamblers? The very essence of gambling is to be fooled. If the stock market was gambling it would be illegal in many places in the USA where gambling is prohibited. Manipulating the market for your is something people are often locked up for, but more often than that corporations and the people who run them get away with it due to corruption of government by special interests. Your 401K and many things you depend on in turn depend on the stock market not being illegally manipulated. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
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Jolly Roger wrote: On 2018-04-21, nospam wrote: In article , Jolly Roger wrote: Apple's iPhone X is likely to be discontinued this year if "Apple iPhone production slowdown: This happens every year and hits stock every time intentionally. follow the money. 'market analysts' release these 'reports' to manipulate the stock price down ahead of quarterly earnings reports (and not just apple either) for their own personal gain and their clients. even a small change can be *very* profitable. they should be thrown in jail. Yup. And US politicians are complicit because some of that money ends up in their bank accounts. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Apple's iPhone X will be killed off this year, analyst says
In article , Wolf K
wrote: they should be thrown in jail. Why. For fooling other gamblers? The very essence of gambling is to be fooled. If the stock market was gambling it would be illegal in many places in the USA where gambling is prohibited. Manipulating the market for your is something people are often locked up for, but more often than that corporations and the people who run them get away with it due to corruption of government by special interests. Your 401K and many things you depend on in turn depend on the stock market not being illegally manipulated. Valid but unsound argument, since the stock market _is_ gambling. Just like betting on the horsies. it's nothing at all like betting on 'horsies'. You study the form, then you place your bets. I've done it. The only time I lost money was when I bet on a company whose product and market I didn't understand. I took a friend's advice, always a bad idea. I never bet more than I could afford to lose, just like at the track. But I gave it up after a while, took my winnings, and bought a car for cash. Never had to finance a car again, so I came out ahead in more ways than one. then you don't understand the stock market. BTW, my pension plan is invested in dividend paying companies, real estate, bonds, and stuff like that. Being in Canada, it's not allowed to bet on the stock market. I do have a mutual fund that bets on the market, they dropped a few percent in the last quarter: the Trump effect, apparently. the recent drop is a buy opportunity. |
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