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Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?



 
 
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Old May 6th 21, 12:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
JJ[_14_]
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 09:51:13 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
"R.Wieser" wrote:

Than that fear has not been driven deep enough into them, as it also states
that it may *not* be used as an entry-blocker ("cookie wall") - which it now
has been set up as.


That's what "consent" is all about.


But the fact is that almost all of them don't actually ask for a consent.
They simply notify us, that cookies will be given for whatever reason they
please. Even _before_ we click that Yes/OK/Accept/Agree button or link.

From what I see, GDPR is meant to _protect_ website owners from being sued
by visitors. It's not meant to protect website visitors.
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Old May 6th 21, 12:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

"JJ" wrote

| But the fact is that almost all of them don't actually ask for a consent.
| They simply notify us, that cookies will be given for whatever reason they
| please. Even _before_ we click that Yes/OK/Accept/Agree button or link.
|

Yes, and they try to block the page until you OK it.
I get a kick out of npr.org. The masters of liberal guilt
trips now show me a page about once per week that
gives me a choice: "You can either accept our cookies
and be a decent person, or you can click "no" and we'll
show you a plain page with a handful of links that lead
to some plain-text news stories we'll allow you to see."

They're trying to make it look like a choice, while
punishing anyone who says no and treating them as
misbehaving children.


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Old May 6th 21, 02:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

JJ,

But the fact is that almost all of them don't actually ask for a
consent. They simply notify us, that cookies will be given for
whatever reason they please. Even _before_ we click that
Yes/OK/Accept/Agree button or link.


I don't think that you, just like VanguardLH, are aware of what the GDPR is
really about. I give you a hint : Its /not/ about cookies.

From what I see, GDPR is meant to _protect_ website owners
from being sued by visitors. It's not meant to protect website visitors.


If that where so than just a "who progresses beyond this point" style of
banner or even a small-small-small text at he bottom of the page would have
been enough (shrink-wrap EULAs anyone?). The fact that the GDPR specifies
that the visitor has to be *activily* involved seems to indicate something
different.

Ofcourse, the GDPR is directly opposite the website-owners / companies
stance that nobody is allowed to deny them anything, so they try to trash
it. The mere fact that most all websites sites have a prominent "yes"
button, but no complementing "no" button should tell you enough in that
regard.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old May 7th 21, 02:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
JJ[_14_]
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

On Thu, 6 May 2021 15:12:25 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

I don't think that you, just like VanguardLH, are aware of what the GDPR is
really about. I give you a hint : Its /not/ about cookies.

If that where so than just a "who progresses beyond this point" style of
banner or even a small-small-small text at he bottom of the page would have
been enough (shrink-wrap EULAs anyone?). The fact that the GDPR specifies
that the visitor has to be *activily* involved seems to indicate something
different.


So, I noticed.

Should there be a law to disallow anyone from claiming that what they state
is according to a law which in actuality, has nothing to do with what they
claim? (does that make sense?)

Ofcourse, the GDPR is directly opposite the website-owners / companies
stance that nobody is allowed to deny them anything, so they try to trash
it. The mere fact that most all websites sites have a prominent "yes"
button, but no complementing "no" button should tell you enough in that
regard.


I never trust websites' and softwares' statements/policies ever since I can
not personally confirm their honestly.
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Old May 7th 21, 05:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

JJ,

Should there be a law to disallow anyone from claiming that what
they state is according to a law which in actuality, has nothing to
do with what they claim? (does that make sense?)


The problem is that most advertisers know quite well how far they can dive
into the "gray area" before it becomes a matter for the Law. But yes, I
would love to see such a law - if it would be upheld. Bad and/or false
advertising is a scourge to customers. :-(

I never trust websites' and softwares' statements/policies ever since
I can not personally confirm their honestly.


And you will never be able to. :-\

Companies are /by definition/ a sociopaths : their whole existance is
revolving about making their owners and/or investors money. If they can
get/force you to pay more and deliver less than they will not hesitate.

Than again, there are a lot of people who have no qualms to rob you blind if
they think they can get away with it (will not get caught) ...

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


 




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