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  #46  
Old March 27th 09, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
ColTom2
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Default Defrag Tools

Sorta strange that no one has mentioned PowerDefragger Version: 3.0, Very
simple, fast and best of all, free file/folder/drive defragmentation tool.
Core engine is powered by Sysinternals/Microsoft Contig
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...bb897428.aspx).

Download:
http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive...fragmenter.zip

Try it...you might like it.

ColTom2

"......" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)?
Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows
built-in tool?

regards
Leo


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  #47  
Old March 27th 09, 12:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Big_Al
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Default Never mind! Defrag Tools

Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 7:27 PM:
Big_Al wrote:
Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM:
Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of
fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty
inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend
on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when
drives got so large.

Cheers,

Twayne



Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
"......" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)?
Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows
built-in tool?

regards
Leo

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signature database 3965 (20090326) __________

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If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one.
It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough.

I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag
graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall.
There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that
the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't..


Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its
graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I
find it quite nice.


O&O? What's its branded name? I might like to look at that but can't
find anything similar to O&O.
Thanks,
Twayne


http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/S...-Edition.shtml
This is version 11, and I have a much older copy. But I'm sure this is
it. That's Oh and Oh, not zero & zero by the way.
  #48  
Old March 27th 09, 12:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Big_Al
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Default Never mind! Defrag Tools

Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 7:27 PM:
Big_Al wrote:
Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM:
Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of
fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty
inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend
on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when
drives got so large.

Cheers,

Twayne



Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
"......" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)?
Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows
built-in tool?

regards
Leo

__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
signature database 3965 (20090326) __________

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

http://www.eset.com



If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one.
It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough.

I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag
graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall.
There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that
the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't..


Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its
graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I
find it quite nice.


O&O? What's its branded name? I might like to look at that but can't
find anything similar to O&O.
Thanks,
Twayne


http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/S...-Edition.shtml
This is version 11, and I have a much older copy. But I'm sure this is
it. That's Oh and Oh, not zero & zero by the way.
  #49  
Old March 27th 09, 12:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
ColTom2
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Posts: 589
Default Defrag Tools

The correct name of the application is Power Defragmenter and not Power
Defragger. Sorry my error.

ColTom2


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Sorta strange that no one has mentioned PowerDefragger Version: 3.0, Very
simple, fast and best of all, free file/folder/drive defragmentation tool.
Core engine is powered by Sysinternals/Microsoft Contig
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...bb897428.aspx).

Download:
http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive...fragmenter.zip

Try it...you might like it.

ColTom2

"......" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)?
Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows
built-in tool?

regards
Leo



  #50  
Old March 27th 09, 12:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
ColTom2
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Posts: 589
Default Defrag Tools

The correct name of the application is Power Defragmenter and not Power
Defragger. Sorry my error.

ColTom2


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Sorta strange that no one has mentioned PowerDefragger Version: 3.0, Very
simple, fast and best of all, free file/folder/drive defragmentation tool.
Core engine is powered by Sysinternals/Microsoft Contig
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...bb897428.aspx).

Download:
http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive...fragmenter.zip

Try it...you might like it.

ColTom2

"......" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)?
Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows
built-in tool?

regards
Leo



  #51  
Old March 27th 09, 03:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
deerslayer[_2_]
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Default Defrag Tools

Jose wrote:
On Mar 26, 7:37 am, "......" wrote:
Thanks everyone. I am not having any problem with my system but I
like defragging my disk every month. I have been using auslogic for
the job but now I want to uninstall all unnecessary software form my
system to boost its speed. So I was wondering whether windows
built-in defrag can do the job for me.

regards
Leo


...oh yeah, after running whatever gets run to defragment, that after
picture sure looks good - not so much red stuff as in the before
picture, so this tells me that the defragment really did the job and.
I told you! Look how fast it is now! (they say).

But after a short while... Wait - my computer is slow again or even
worse and I only recovered .01% free space. Therefore I must need a
better defragment tool.


Why would you expect defragging to give you more disk space? Where would
that space come from? You don't seem to understand the concept of
defragging. The process doesn't magically give you more room on your hard
drive.


  #52  
Old March 27th 09, 03:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
deerslayer[_2_]
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Default Defrag Tools

Jose wrote:
On Mar 26, 7:37 am, "......" wrote:
Thanks everyone. I am not having any problem with my system but I
like defragging my disk every month. I have been using auslogic for
the job but now I want to uninstall all unnecessary software form my
system to boost its speed. So I was wondering whether windows
built-in defrag can do the job for me.

regards
Leo


...oh yeah, after running whatever gets run to defragment, that after
picture sure looks good - not so much red stuff as in the before
picture, so this tells me that the defragment really did the job and.
I told you! Look how fast it is now! (they say).

But after a short while... Wait - my computer is slow again or even
worse and I only recovered .01% free space. Therefore I must need a
better defragment tool.


Why would you expect defragging to give you more disk space? Where would
that space come from? You don't seem to understand the concept of
defragging. The process doesn't magically give you more room on your hard
drive.


  #53  
Old March 27th 09, 06:31 AM
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If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one.
It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough.

I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag
graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall.
There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that
the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't..
Thnx
BBB
  #54  
Old March 27th 09, 10:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
THE C. [MS MVP]
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Default Never mind! Defrag Tools

O & O defrag is the best on the market. You can defrag in stealth, space,
name, and file type or file name. I use 11 profesional. Nothing compares to
it. If you want free then Diskeeper is the best choice.
--
Computer/Software Tech.


Charles Richmond
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/



"Big_Al" wrote:

Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 7:27 PM:
Big_Al wrote:
Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM:
Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of
fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty
inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend
on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when
drives got so large.

Cheers,

Twayne



Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
"......" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)?
Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows
built-in tool?

regards
Leo

__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
signature database 3965 (20090326) __________

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

http://www.eset.com



If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one.
It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough.

I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag
graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall.
There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that
the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't..


Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its
graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I
find it quite nice.


O&O? What's its branded name? I might like to look at that but can't
find anything similar to O&O.
Thanks,
Twayne


http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/S...-Edition.shtml
This is version 11, and I have a much older copy. But I'm sure this is
it. That's Oh and Oh, not zero & zero by the way.

  #55  
Old March 27th 09, 10:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
THE C. [MS MVP]
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Posts: 71
Default Never mind! Defrag Tools

O & O defrag is the best on the market. You can defrag in stealth, space,
name, and file type or file name. I use 11 profesional. Nothing compares to
it. If you want free then Diskeeper is the best choice.
--
Computer/Software Tech.


Charles Richmond
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/



"Big_Al" wrote:

Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 7:27 PM:
Big_Al wrote:
Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM:
Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of
fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty
inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend
on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when
drives got so large.

Cheers,

Twayne



Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
"......" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)?
Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows
built-in tool?

regards
Leo

__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
signature database 3965 (20090326) __________

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

http://www.eset.com



If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one.
It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough.

I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag
graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall.
There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that
the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't..


Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its
graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I
find it quite nice.


O&O? What's its branded name? I might like to look at that but can't
find anything similar to O&O.
Thanks,
Twayne


http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/S...-Edition.shtml
This is version 11, and I have a much older copy. But I'm sure this is
it. That's Oh and Oh, not zero & zero by the way.

  #56  
Old March 27th 09, 11:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Olórin[_2_]
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Default Never mind! Defrag Tools

THE C. [MS MVP] wrote:
O & O defrag is the best on the market. You can defrag in stealth,
space, name, and file type or file name. I use 11 profesional.
Nothing compares to it. If you want free then Diskeeper is the best
choice.

snip

Nonsense! Plenty of other defrag tools compare to it. In the same way as you
compare to a real MS MVP.

That's not to say that the comparison is necessarily favourable, mind...


  #57  
Old March 27th 09, 11:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Olorin
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Posts: 323
Default Never mind! Defrag Tools

THE C. [MS MVP] wrote:
O & O defrag is the best on the market. You can defrag in stealth,
space, name, and file type or file name. I use 11 profesional.
Nothing compares to it. If you want free then Diskeeper is the best
choice.

snip

Nonsense! Plenty of other defrag tools compare to it. In the same way as you
compare to a real MS MVP.

That's not to say that the comparison is necessarily favourable, mind...


  #58  
Old March 27th 09, 02:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Leythos[_2_]
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Default Never mind! Defrag Tools

In article , THEC.
@MSN.COM says...
O & O defrag is the best on the market. You can defrag in stealth, space,
name, and file type or file name. I use 11 profesional. Nothing compares to
it. If you want free then Diskeeper is the best choice.


I'll stick with JKDefrag and not have to pay for a third-party tool that
does things that are unneeded.

A batch file that launches the defrag on a weekly basis, that can pack
large files and leave gaps to improve performance is all that you need.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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  #59  
Old March 27th 09, 02:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Leythos[_2_]
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Posts: 976
Default Never mind! Defrag Tools

In article , THEC.
@MSN.COM says...
O & O defrag is the best on the market. You can defrag in stealth, space,
name, and file type or file name. I use 11 profesional. Nothing compares to
it. If you want free then Diskeeper is the best choice.


I'll stick with JKDefrag and not have to pay for a third-party tool that
does things that are unneeded.

A batch file that launches the defrag on a weekly basis, that can pack
large files and leave gaps to improve performance is all that you need.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(remove 999 for proper email address)
  #60  
Old March 27th 09, 03:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
......
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Default Defrag Tools

On Mar 26, 6:09*pm, "Olórin"
wrote:
...... wrote:
Thanks everyone. I am not having any problem with my system but I like
defragging my disk every month. I have been using auslogic for the job
but now I want to uninstall all unnecessary software form my system to
boost its speed. So I was wondering whether windows built-in defrag
can do the job for me.


regards
Leo


"I want to uninstall all unnecessary software form my system to boost its
speed" - that's not going to help, unless:

1) the software is set to run at Windows' start-up and consumes resources
or
2) you're REALLY down to close-to-zero free space and getting warnings from
Windows about that

Or, circuitously, if you're low on free space and XP's defragmenter can't
start/complete properly, then removing enough unnecessary software might
free up enough space to let it run and thereby improve performance - but I
don't think that's really what you're after.

There are far more worthwhile things to look into to improve speed - check
through this group for previous posts with guidance on that.


Nothing like 1 or 2 but I do a lot of numerical computing using
MATLAB. So I want my PC to be at its best. Last time I installed
webshots and system slowed down a little. Office 2007 also slowed down
the system. So I try to minimize the use of fancy software.
 




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