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Old January 9th 10, 08:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
No_Name
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Default NAV2010 and WinXP Firewall

I run NAV2010, but not NIS2010. I was wondering how WinXP's Firewall
would work with Nav2010? Is anyone running this combination and could
provide some insights? And also, so possible settings for WinXP's
Firewall.

Thanks for any input!

charliec
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Old January 9th 10, 08:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
Bruce Chambers
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Default NAV2010 and WinXP Firewall

wrote:
I run NAV2010, but not NIS2010. I was wondering how WinXP's Firewall
would work with Nav2010? Is anyone running this combination and could
provide some insights? And also, so possible settings for WinXP's
Firewall.

Thanks for any input!

charliec



This is sort of asking if oranges and apples sitting in the same fruit
bowl will some how turn into "orples" or "apparnges." NAV10 is an
anti-virus application and the Windows Firewall is, well, a firewall.
The two won't interact, at all.

Also, there are virtually no settings, other than allowing specified
applications to access your computer from remote sites.

WinXP's built-in firewall is usually adequate at stopping incoming
attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP SP2's firewall
does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you (or
someone else using your computer) might download and install
inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other than
to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you about) the
bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes that any
application you have on your hard drive is there because you want it
there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the Internet.
Further, because the Windows Firewall is a "stateful" firewall, it will
also assume that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a
Trojan's or spyware's out-going signal is also authorized.

ZoneAlarm or Kerio (as just two examples - there are other free
personal firewalls available) much better than WinXP's built-in
firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there are free
versions of each readily available. Even the commercially available
Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far, although it does
take a heavier toll of system performance then do ZoneAlarm or Kerio.

Having said that, it's important to remember that firewalls and
anti-virus applications, which should always be used and should always
be running, while important components of "safe hex," cannot, and should
not be expected to, protect the computer user from him/herself.
Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and every computer user to learn
how to secure his/her own computer.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
  #3  
Old February 21st 10, 09:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
EnforcerMJ
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Default NAV2010 and WinXP Firewall

Uh, wow, where've you been??
Actually Norton ANTIVIRUS (NOT Internet security or 360 products),
have for several years now automatically DISABLED or TURNED OFF
the Windows Firewall. Even just the Antivirus software has protection
that is better than WIndows Firewall, which really cannot even be
called a BASIC firewall - really bad terminology - but in any case,
Norton Antivirus, while it does not contain an actual software firewall,
DOES provide the same type of protection that W.F. provides, but
better, so it automatically turns it off. In around 2006 it started
ASKING and recommending during the installation that you let it
turn off the firewall, now it just does it by default in most instances
that I have seen, and I install NAV on over a hundred computers
at week where I work. (Referring to XP now, not positive about
what it does on Vista).
It's always best to research a topic before posting such a misleading
comment and make it sound like it's a fact.
Hence, NAV and W.F. WILL INTERACT whatsoever!
"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

wrote:
I run NAV2010, but not NIS2010. I was wondering how WinXP's Firewall
would work with Nav2010? Is anyone running this combination and could
provide some insights? And also, so possible settings for WinXP's
Firewall.

Thanks for any input!

charliec



This is sort of asking if oranges and apples sitting in the same fruit
bowl will some how turn into "orples" or "apparnges." NAV10 is an
anti-virus application and the Windows Firewall is, well, a firewall.
The two won't interact, at all.

Also, there are virtually no settings, other than allowing specified
applications to access your computer from remote sites.

WinXP's built-in firewall is usually adequate at stopping incoming
attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP SP2's firewall
does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you (or
someone else using your computer) might download and install
inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other than
to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you about) the
bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes that any
application you have on your hard drive is there because you want it
there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the Internet.
Further, because the Windows Firewall is a "stateful" firewall, it will
also assume that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a
Trojan's or spyware's out-going signal is also authorized.

ZoneAlarm or Kerio (as just two examples - there are other free
personal firewalls available) much better than WinXP's built-in
firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there are free
versions of each readily available. Even the commercially available
Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far, although it does
take a heavier toll of system performance then do ZoneAlarm or Kerio.

Having said that, it's important to remember that firewalls and
anti-virus applications, which should always be used and should always
be running, while important components of "safe hex," cannot, and should
not be expected to, protect the computer user from him/herself.
Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and every computer user to learn
how to secure his/her own computer.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
.

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Old February 22nd 10, 03:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
FromTheRafters[_3_]
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Default NAV2010 and WinXP Firewall

It sounds like you understand neither.

What do you think a firewall protects you from? How about an antivirus
program? How do these relate?

If an AV application "turns off" my firewall when I install it, it
better be just temporary or that application is outta there.

"EnforcerMJ" wrote in message
...
Uh, wow, where've you been??
Actually Norton ANTIVIRUS (NOT Internet security or 360 products),
have for several years now automatically DISABLED or TURNED OFF
the Windows Firewall. Even just the Antivirus software has protection
that is better than WIndows Firewall, which really cannot even be
called a BASIC firewall - really bad terminology - but in any case,
Norton Antivirus, while it does not contain an actual software
firewall,
DOES provide the same type of protection that W.F. provides, but
better, so it automatically turns it off. In around 2006 it started
ASKING and recommending during the installation that you let it
turn off the firewall, now it just does it by default in most
instances
that I have seen, and I install NAV on over a hundred computers
at week where I work. (Referring to XP now, not positive about
what it does on Vista).
It's always best to research a topic before posting such a misleading
comment and make it sound like it's a fact.
Hence, NAV and W.F. WILL INTERACT whatsoever!
"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

wrote:
I run NAV2010, but not NIS2010. I was wondering how WinXP's
Firewall
would work with Nav2010? Is anyone running this combination and
could
provide some insights? And also, so possible settings for WinXP's
Firewall.

Thanks for any input!

charliec



This is sort of asking if oranges and apples sitting in the same
fruit
bowl will some how turn into "orples" or "apparnges." NAV10 is an
anti-virus application and the Windows Firewall is, well, a firewall.
The two won't interact, at all.

Also, there are virtually no settings, other than allowing specified
applications to access your computer from remote sites.

WinXP's built-in firewall is usually adequate at stopping
incoming
attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP SP2's
firewall
does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you (or
someone else using your computer) might download and install
inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other
than
to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you about)
the
bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes that any
application you have on your hard drive is there because you want it
there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the Internet.
Further, because the Windows Firewall is a "stateful" firewall, it
will
also assume that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a
Trojan's or spyware's out-going signal is also authorized.

ZoneAlarm or Kerio (as just two examples - there are other free
personal firewalls available) much better than WinXP's built-in
firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there are free
versions of each readily available. Even the commercially available
Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far, although it
does
take a heavier toll of system performance then do ZoneAlarm or Kerio.

Having said that, it's important to remember that firewalls and
anti-virus applications, which should always be used and should
always
be running, while important components of "safe hex," cannot, and
should
not be expected to, protect the computer user from him/herself.
Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and every computer user to
learn
how to secure his/her own computer.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
.



 




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