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Old February 27th 10, 07:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Lorraine W[_2_]
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Default How can I control the order of boot seqence

I have a (sticky-note like) program that loads at startup and stays in the
system tray. It loads just fine if it loads early in the boot sequence, but
if it loads toward the end, it leaves its tab in the task bar. The only way
to get rid of this is to right click the icon in the systray, choose about
(which opens a box with the version number) and click the OK on that box. I
know this isn't really a big problem, but just annoying.

Is there any way that I can control the order of the boot sequence without
resorting to third party software? I'm running XP Pro SP2 with all SP2
updates.

TIA

Lorraine


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Old February 27th 10, 09:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Shenan Stanley
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Default How can I control the order of boot seqence

Lorraine W wrote:
I have a (sticky-note like) program that loads at startup and stays
in the system tray. It loads just fine if it loads early in the
boot sequence, but if it loads toward the end, it leaves its tab in
the task bar. The only way to get rid of this is to right click
the icon in the systray, choose about (which opens a box with the
version number) and click the OK on that box. I know this isn't
really a big problem, but just annoying.

Is there any way that I can control the order of the boot sequence
without resorting to third party software? I'm running XP Pro SP2
with all SP2 updates.


Not really - since things startup in various ways and we have no way of
knowing how this one starts up given what you have... Why not just start it
manually with a batch script (with other such applications) after you get
botted/logged in - that is one way to control the order.

Also - any reason you have not installed SP3? Soon you will not be
receiving updates for your Windows XP system if you are not at least SP3
level - and it has been out for a couple of years.

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Old February 27th 10, 09:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Lorraine W[_2_]
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Default How can I control the order of boot seqence

Thanks for the fast response Shenan.

Unfortunately, I know nothing about batch scripts, or how to write and/or
implement them.

As to SP3, I've read from many sources and know some techs who still have
not installed SP3. I've been told that you can't undo it once you've
updated, and I've heard some real horror stories about things that happened
after updating to SP3. A lot of them are probably isolated incidents, and
I'm being silly, but there you have it. I plan on upgrading to Windows 7
fairly soon anyway.

Lorraine

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
| Lorraine W wrote:
| I have a (sticky-note like) program that loads at startup and stays
| in the system tray. It loads just fine if it loads early in the
| boot sequence, but if it loads toward the end, it leaves its tab in
| the task bar. The only way to get rid of this is to right click
| the icon in the systray, choose about (which opens a box with the
| version number) and click the OK on that box. I know this isn't
| really a big problem, but just annoying.
|
| Is there any way that I can control the order of the boot sequence
| without resorting to third party software? I'm running XP Pro SP2
| with all SP2 updates.
|
| Not really - since things startup in various ways and we have no way of
| knowing how this one starts up given what you have... Why not just start
it
| manually with a batch script (with other such applications) after you get
| botted/logged in - that is one way to control the order.
|
| Also - any reason you have not installed SP3? Soon you will not be
| receiving updates for your Windows XP system if you are not at least SP3
| level - and it has been out for a couple of years.
|
| --
| Shenan Stanley
| MS-MVP
| --
| How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
| http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
|
|


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Old February 27th 10, 10:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
philo
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Default How can I control the order of boot seqence

Lorraine W wrote:
Thanks for the fast response Shenan.

Unfortunately, I know nothing about batch scripts, or how to write and/or
implement them.

As to SP3, I've read from many sources and know some techs who still have
not installed SP3. I've been told that you can't undo it once you've
updated, and I've heard some real horror stories about things that happened
after updating to SP3. A lot of them are probably isolated incidents, and
I'm being silly, but there you have it. I plan on upgrading to Windows 7
fairly soon anyway.





Unless you really have some pretty new H/W and a lot of RAM I'd advise
you to stay with XP and hold off on Win7 until you go for a new machine.

Though sure, there have been a few reports of problems with sp3...
for most people it works very well.

If you have your data backed up
and sp3 would break your system...you could perform a repair install by
booting with an XP SP2 cd and you'd be back to sp2

Lorraine

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
| Lorraine W wrote:
| I have a (sticky-note like) program that loads at startup and stays
| in the system tray. It loads just fine if it loads early in the
| boot sequence, but if it loads toward the end, it leaves its tab in
| the task bar. The only way to get rid of this is to right click
| the icon in the systray, choose about (which opens a box with the
| version number) and click the OK on that box. I know this isn't
| really a big problem, but just annoying.
|
| Is there any way that I can control the order of the boot sequence
| without resorting to third party software? I'm running XP Pro SP2
| with all SP2 updates.
|
| Not really - since things startup in various ways and we have no way of
| knowing how this one starts up given what you have... Why not just start
it
| manually with a batch script (with other such applications) after you get
| botted/logged in - that is one way to control the order.
|
| Also - any reason you have not installed SP3? Soon you will not be
| receiving updates for your Windows XP system if you are not at least SP3
| level - and it has been out for a couple of years.
|
| --
| Shenan Stanley
| MS-MVP
| --
| How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
| http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
|
|


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Old February 27th 10, 11:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Lorraine W[_2_]
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Default How can I control the order of boot seqence


"philo" wrote in message
...
| Lorraine W wrote:
| Thanks for the fast response Shenan.
|
| Unfortunately, I know nothing about batch scripts, or how to write
and/or
| implement them.
|
| As to SP3, I've read from many sources and know some techs who still
have
| not installed SP3. I've been told that you can't undo it once you've
| updated, and I've heard some real horror stories about things that
happened
| after updating to SP3. A lot of them are probably isolated incidents,
and
| I'm being silly, but there you have it. I plan on upgrading to Windows
7
| fairly soon anyway.
|
|
|
|
|
| Unless you really have some pretty new H/W and a lot of RAM I'd advise
| you to stay with XP and hold off on Win7 until you go for a new machine.
|
| Though sure, there have been a few reports of problems with sp3...
| for most people it works very well.
|
| If you have your data backed up
| and sp3 would break your system...you could perform a repair install by
| booting with an XP SP2 cd and you'd be back to sp2
|
| Lorraine


Thanks Philo. I've run the Windows 7 upgrade advisor and my system should
be OK. My computer is custom built, and is 1 1/2 years old. I have 2 x
500GB hard drives (200 GB partition for OS and other programs), Intel Core 2
Quad 2.4 GhZ processor, 3 GB of ram, and an nVidia GeForce 9600GSO video
card. I know I'll have to reinstall all of my software, and there were a
few of the internal hardware bits that need their drivers updated. But I
think I should be good to go.

Do you have a suggestion as to whether we should go for Home Premium or
Professional? We have a home network - wired but with wireless capability.
I personally would go for the Professional just for the XP mode.

If I stay with XP for much longer, I think I will try installing SP3. I
have image backups on both my second internal drive and an external drive.

Thanks,

Lorraine

PS - Sorry, I sent this to your email addy instead of replying to group. My
apologies.


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Old February 28th 10, 04:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
glee
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Default How can I control the order of boot seqence

"Lorraine W" wrote in message
...

Thanks Philo. I've run the Windows 7 upgrade advisor and my system
should
be OK. My computer is custom built, and is 1 1/2 years old. I have 2
x
500GB hard drives (200 GB partition for OS and other programs), Intel
Core 2
Quad 2.4 GhZ processor, 3 GB of ram, and an nVidia GeForce 9600GSO
video
card. I know I'll have to reinstall all of my software, and there
were a
few of the internal hardware bits that need their drivers updated.
But I
think I should be good to go.

Do you have a suggestion as to whether we should go for Home Premium
or
Professional? We have a home network - wired but with wireless
capability.
I personally would go for the Professional just for the XP mode.

If I stay with XP for much longer, I think I will try installing SP3.
I
have image backups on both my second internal drive and an external
drive.



That hardware should run Windows 7 with no problems. Before you put out
the extra cash for Professional, for XP Mode, make sure your CPU
supports it, and that there is an option for Hardware Virtualization to
be turned on in the BIOS. Not every model of Intel Core 2 Quad
supports XP Mode.

Download the tool to check your CPU for HAV support:
HAV Detection Tool
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Here's some more info on the subject:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir...gure-bios.aspx


The majority of XP SP3 installations have no problem. Follow a few
guidelines:

Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3): Installation Guide
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=33296

There are guides for the rare issues that come up, including a removal
guide, plus post-install cleanup tips, he
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=83

Good luck.
--
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A+
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Old February 28th 10, 05:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Lorraine W[_2_]
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Default How can I control the order of boot seqence


|
| That hardware should run Windows 7 with no problems. Before you put out
| the extra cash for Professional, for XP Mode, make sure your CPU
| supports it, and that there is an option for Hardware Virtualization to
| be turned on in the BIOS. Not every model of Intel Core 2 Quad
| supports XP Mode.
|
| Download the tool to check your CPU for HAV support:
| HAV Detection Tool
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
|
| Here's some more info on the subject:
| http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir...gure-bios.aspx
|
|
| The majority of XP SP3 installations have no problem. Follow a few
| guidelines:
|
| Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3): Installation Guide
| http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=33296
|
| There are guides for the rare issues that come up, including a removal
| guide, plus post-install cleanup tips, he
| http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=83
|
| Good luck.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
| A+
| http://dts-l.net/
|

Wow, thanks for all that great information Glen. I will certainly check it
all out.

Lorraine


 




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