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In article , Chaya Eve
wrote:


itunes can do both simple and complex things. your problem is that you
can't see beyond your hatred.

And yet you are still unable to list a _single_ functionality that iTunes
provides that Windows doesn't already have without it.

been there done that. you aren't interested. you just want to hate.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 17:00:10 -0400, nospam wrote:

been there done that. you aren't interested. you just want to hate.

In other words, you can't name a _single_ functionality of iTunes that
Windows doesn't already have.

nospam wrote:
In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:


Bonjour is simply zero conf. Windows doesn't have it by default, and
iTunes works well with it, so Apple installs it with iTunes because it
improves the user experience. Apple's not trying to take over your
computer or anything of the sort. That's your bias showing.

Now nearly every one uses a router with dhcp enabled and running by
default. Why could they need zero-config? Been a long time since I have
seen someone try to connect to a printer on a LAN with just a hub via
link-local.

dhcp and zeroconf are two very, very different things.


So you are going to tell me that without zeroconf devices such as
network cannot be discovered by LAN clients?

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In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Bonjour is simply zero conf. Windows doesn't have it by default, and
iTunes works well with it, so Apple installs it with iTunes because it
improves the user experience. Apple's not trying to take over your
computer or anything of the sort. That's your bias showing.

Now nearly every one uses a router with dhcp enabled and running by
default. Why could they need zero-config? Been a long time since I have
seen someone try to connect to a printer on a LAN with just a hub via
link-local.

dhcp and zeroconf are two very, very different things.

So you are going to tell me that without zeroconf devices such as
network cannot be discovered by LAN clients?

nowhere near as easily.

you clearly don't understand what zeroconf is or does.

nospam wrote:
In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Bonjour is simply zero conf. Windows doesn't have it by default, and
iTunes works well with it, so Apple installs it with iTunes because it
improves the user experience. Apple's not trying to take over your
computer or anything of the sort. That's your bias showing.

Now nearly every one uses a router with dhcp enabled and running by
default. Why could they need zero-config? Been a long time since I have
seen someone try to connect to a printer on a LAN with just a hub via
link-local.

dhcp and zeroconf are two very, very different things.

So you are going to tell me that without zeroconf devices such as
network cannot be discovered by LAN clients?

nowhere near as easily.

you clearly don't understand what zeroconf is or does.


Huh? Add new printer Network printer Select printer install driver
print.

And as Mad Roger in another thread found out it is even easier in Linux.


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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Bonjour is simply zero conf. Windows doesn't have it by default, and
iTunes works well with it, so Apple installs it with iTunes because it
improves the user experience. Apple's not trying to take over your
computer or anything of the sort. That's your bias showing.

Now nearly every one uses a router with dhcp enabled and running by
default. Why could they need zero-config? Been a long time since I have
seen someone try to connect to a printer on a LAN with just a hub via
link-local.

dhcp and zeroconf are two very, very different things.

So you are going to tell me that without zeroconf devices such as
network cannot be discovered by LAN clients?

nowhere near as easily.

you clearly don't understand what zeroconf is or does.


Huh? Add new printer Network printer Select printer install driver
print.

with bonjour, connect printer to network (wifi or enet). done.

And as Mad Roger in another thread found out it is even easier in Linux.

nothing is easier on linux.

linux users thrive on doing things as complex as possible.

On 2017-06-16, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-16 16:40, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-06-16, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-15 21:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-06-16, nospam wrote:

except that jane kept copies and not only can jane look at them at
any time, but so can everyone else because she posted some of the
more incriminating ones to imgur and linked them in a reddit
thread.

now dick is *really* angry with jane.

despite their spats, google continues to build its knowledge graph
of both dick and jane and everyone they know.

It bears repeating:

+1

As does the question: Why are you letting it happen?

Me? I'm not letting it happen. I rarely use Google for anything
anymore. That's a conscious choice I've made, and I'm happier for
it.

"You" is the generic plural in this context. IOW, "Youse Americans..."

Preach to your own country, ******. Anyhow not one word you've said
changes my original statement, which is that Google isn't the company
you want to trust with intimate details about yourself because they are
quite literally in the *business* of collecting and selling that
information about their users.

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In article ,
"Jonathan N. Little" wrote:

Being in Third-World-USA without access to real broadband size is an
issue.

Not improved for you over the last few years? Not the best! When I
came to USA, I got a lot of good broadband. I remember a place south
of San Fran, Carmel I think, the big hotel there, incredible download
speeds. I was in small towns and some big, not like you in the bush.
Quite a few places in Australian bush are not easy either!

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In article ,
"Jonathan N. Little" wrote:

Anyway
who uses mp3 players when they have their phone on them 24-7?

Me. My phone is just for talking and text texting. And my iPad is too
big for hauling about generally. g

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In article ,
Chaya Eve wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 13:45:28 -0400, nospam wrote:

That means I can collect all the iPods in the neighborhood, and connect
them at once to the network, and just share files at will.

translated: you pirate music and movies.

Translated: You agree iTunes can't do the simplest of things.

It is certainly true that iTunes cannot do the simplest of things
simply. It is truly thoroughly awful software! I have to use it
though, unfortunately.

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dorayme

nospam wrote:
In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:


you clearly don't understand what zeroconf is or does.


Huh? Add new printer Network printer Select printer install driver
print.

with bonjour, connect printer to network (wifi or enet). done.

What, install stuff with no user input at all? I don't want *my* OS to
tell *me* which things to install. It should show up on the network, but
I may not want to install it. In the corporate environment that would be
very undesirable.


And as Mad Roger in another thread found out it is even easier in Linux.

nothing is easier on linux.

linux users thrive on doing things as complex as possible.


Obviously spoken by someone who knows nothing about Linux.

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Take care,

Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

dorayme wrote:
In article ,
"Jonathan N. Little" wrote:

Being in Third-World-USA without access to real broadband size is an
issue.

Not improved for you over the last few years? Not the best!
Verizon talks a good game but doesn't seem to deliver.

When I came to USA, I got a lot of good broadband. I remember a place
south of San Fran, Carmel I think, the big hotel there, incredible
download speeds. I was in small towns and some big, not like you in
the bush. Quite a few places in Australian bush are not easy either!

They have only put fiber in a few cities even though they promised
county-wide in exchanged for deregulation twenty years ago. They've
raised speeds in those few cities, but haven't expanded their footprint
in almost a decade. In US corporations are "people" except in being held
to their responsibilities. Under the current situation it is not likely
to change.

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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

you clearly don't understand what zeroconf is or does.


Huh? Add new printer Network printer Select printer install driver
print.

with bonjour, connect printer to network (wifi or enet). done.

What, install stuff with no user input at all?

there is user input, that being plugging in the printer, which is a
clear indication that the user wants to *use* it.

I don't want *my* OS to
tell *me* which things to install.

then you should disconnect from the internet, because not only is your
operating system auto-updating, but so are most apps.

It should show up on the network, but
I may not want to install it.

a printer without a driver is useless.

In the corporate environment that would be
very undesirable.

not only desirable, but that's exactly what corporate *wants*, with the
download sourced from a local server.

And as Mad Roger in another thread found out it is even easier in Linux.

nothing is easier on linux.

linux users thrive on doing things as complex as possible.

Obviously spoken by someone who knows nothing about Linux.

you just proved it above.

your way requires far more steps than is necessary.

computers are there to do work *for* you, not the other way around.

In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Being in Third-World-USA without access to real broadband size is an
issue.

Not improved for you over the last few years? Not the best!
Verizon talks a good game but doesn't seem to deliver.

they definitely deliver, although their customer service is crap.

When I came to USA, I got a lot of good broadband. I remember a place
south of San Fran, Carmel I think, the big hotel there, incredible
download speeds. I was in small towns and some big, not like you in
the bush. Quite a few places in Australian bush are not easy either!

They have only put fiber in a few cities even though they promised
county-wide in exchanged for deregulation twenty years ago. They've
raised speeds in those few cities, but haven't expanded their footprint
in almost a decade. In US corporations are "people" except in being held
to their responsibilities. Under the current situation it is not likely
to change.

verizon fios is in *far* more than a few cities.

On 2017-06-16, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-16 19:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-06-16, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-16 16:40, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-06-16, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-15 21:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-06-16, nospam wrote:

except that jane kept copies and not only can jane look at them
at any time, but so can everyone else because she posted some of
the more incriminating ones to imgur and linked them in a reddit
thread.

now dick is *really* angry with jane.

despite their spats, google continues to build its knowledge
graph of both dick and jane and everyone they know.

It bears repeating:

+1

As does the question: Why are you letting it happen?

Me? I'm not letting it happen. I rarely use Google for anything
anymore. That's a conscious choice I've made, and I'm happier for
it.

"You" is the generic plural in this context. IOW, "Youse
Americans..."

Preach to your own country, ******. Anyhow not one word you've said
changes my original statement, which is that Google isn't the company
you want to trust with intimate details about yourself because they
are quite literally in the *business* of collecting and selling that
information about their users.

Of course it doesn't, and I never claimed it did. If you saw my
comments as somehow defending Google (etc), or disagreeing with your
claim(s), I must've pushes some really sensitive buttons. Or else you
have terrible reading skills.

Or maybe you just don't have any substantive response to why you'd imply
that Americans are somehow more complicit in privacy violations by
corporations than any *other* mainstream country. For instance the
United "Kingdom" seems to practically embrace the authoritarian
spy-on-everyone state much more than the typical American. Back to the
topic you seem to desperately want to avoid: choosing to use Google's
Photo service over other services whose business models are *not*
gathering and selling your private information is choosing to give away
your privacy to the highest bidder for free. In all you've changed
nothing anyone previously said about Google. All that for nothing...
Pity.

I would say I'm sorry about that, but you know how it is, one insult
deserves another.

Like I care what some second-rate ****** thinks...

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