Location Setting

Whenever web site pick up my location, they show me in a nearby town
instead of the town where I am. Is there a setting somewhere in
Windows that sets my location? I have been unable to locate anything
in control panel.

On 4/18/2012 3:05 PM, Shoe wrote:
Whenever web site pick up my location, they show me in a nearby town
instead of the town where I am. Is there a setting somewhere in
Windows that sets my location? I have been unable to locate anything
in control panel.

They get it from your IP address. It has nothing to do with anything in
the control panel.

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Alias

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:05:57 -0400, Shoe wrote:

Whenever web site pick up my location, they show me in a nearby town
instead of the town where I am. Is there a setting somewhere in
Windows that sets my location? I have been unable to locate anything
in control panel.

web sites detect an IP, check the files and see where that IP is
registered.
Some times, they just look up to see who owns that IP block and use that,
which may give entirely different results.
I've seen my IP show up in several different cities.
On the same day!

Contrary to hollywood drama, no, they can not pinpoint your location by
your IP alone.

Hi richard

richard wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:05:57 -0400, Shoe wrote:

Contrary to hollywood drama, no, they can not pinpoint your location by
your IP alone.

Shouldn't there have been added ?
unless you have a fixed IP address.

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Asger Joergensen wrote:
Hi richard

richard wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:05:57 -0400, Shoe wrote:

Contrary to hollywood drama, no, they can not pinpoint your location by
your IP alone.

Shouldn't there have been added ?
unless you have a fixed IP address.

Which can be spoofed, or have all calls to it redirected elsewhere.

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Tciao for Now!

John.

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:22:11 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Asger Joergensen wrote:
Hi richard

richard wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:05:57 -0400, Shoe wrote:

Contrary to hollywood drama, no, they can not pinpoint your location by
your IP alone.

Shouldn't there have been added ?
unless you have a fixed IP address.

Which can be spoofed, or have all calls to it redirected elsewhere.
OK, thanks. The town it is showing is the adress of my ISP, so your
responses are correct.

richard wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:05:57 -0400, Shoe wrote:

Whenever web site pick up my location, they show me in a nearby town
instead of the town where I am. Is there a setting somewhere in
Windows that sets my location? I have been unable to locate anything
in control panel.

web sites detect an IP, check the files and see where that IP is
registered.
Some times, they just look up to see who owns that IP block and use that,
which may give entirely different results.
I've seen my IP show up in several different cities.
On the same day!

Contrary to hollywood drama, no, they can not pinpoint your location by
your IP alone.

http://static.usenix.org/events/nsdi.../Wang_Yong.pdf

"Our approach effectively addresses this problem and geolocates
the targets within a few kilometers."

Trivial geolocation, is obtained by mapping your IP address, to the
street address of the head office of your ISP. This can result in
gross errors in geolocation, such as showing you a weather report
for an entirely different big city. I always get a chuckle, when some
web site puts "weather info" for the wrong city.

More active geolocation methods, are going to find your city more
successfully. And on more than one occasion, I've seen targeted
advertising, that suggests the web site knows more than just the
"head office" info the other sites use.

Paul

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:43:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

[snip]

Trivial geolocation, is obtained by mapping your IP address, to the
street address of the head office of your ISP. This can result in

Or the ADSL provider that one's ISP uses.

gross errors in geolocation, such as showing you a weather report
for an entirely different big city. I always get a chuckle, when some
web site puts "weather info" for the wrong city.

Or being offered the opportunity for a date that evening in a
city four hours away. Not terribly workable at 5 PM. I so love
untargetted advertising.

More active geolocation methods, are going to find your city more
successfully. And on more than one occasion, I've seen targeted
advertising, that suggests the web site knows more than just the
"head office" info the other sites use.

As have I. I am in the same city as my ISP, so, in my case, they
are drilling down more deeply, but how it would work if I were in
another community than that of my ISP, I do not know.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:11:14 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:43:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

Trivial geolocation, is obtained by mapping your IP address, to the
street address of the head office of your ISP.

Or the ADSL provider that one's ISP uses.

I tried, but failed, to make sense of that statement. :-)

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Char Jackson

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:03:51 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:11:14 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:43:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

Trivial geolocation, is obtained by mapping your IP address, to the
street address of the head office of your ISP.

Or the ADSL provider that one's ISP uses.

I tried, but failed, to make sense of that statement. :-)

My ISP (OCIS) buys ADSL service from Telus. I pay OCIS for my
ADSL. OCIS pays Telus.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:09:13 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:03:51 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:11:14 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:43:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

Trivial geolocation, is obtained by mapping your IP address, to the
street address of the head office of your ISP.

Or the ADSL provider that one's ISP uses.

I tried, but failed, to make sense of that statement. :-)

My ISP (OCIS) buys ADSL service from Telus. I pay OCIS for my
ADSL. OCIS pays Telus.

I think I see what you're saying. I think so, anyway. Thanks.

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Char Jackson

Evan Platt wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:17:36 -0400, richard

Contrary to hollywood drama, no, they can not pinpoint your location by
your IP alone.

Yes, with a court order and the assistance of the ISP, they can.

I'd like to see them try that for the system I'm using at the moment,
without the co-operation of at least one more organisation. Even then,
they could probably only locate me to within a mile or so.

I've been in three widely separated different locations today, according
to Google. I've moved less than ten miles. If I'd set up a VPN,
tunnelling through to the internet, I would have been even harder to trace.

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Tciao for Now!

John.

"Shoe" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:22:11 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Asger Joergensen wrote:
Hi richard

richard wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:05:57 -0400, Shoe wrote:

Contrary to hollywood drama, no, they can not pinpoint your location by
your IP alone.

Shouldn't there have been added ?
unless you have a fixed IP address.

Which can be spoofed, or have all calls to it redirected elsewhere.
OK, thanks. The town it is showing is the adress of my ISP, so your
responses are correct.

Today, I received this:
Subject: NOTICE: Important notice from Bank of America Alert
with this link in the https://www.bankofamerica.com/logon/

and this message:
Security Alert.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As part of our security measure, We regularly screen activity in the Bank of
America system. You received this message due to an issue on your account.
Due to unusual number of invalid login attempts on your account, we have
reason to believe there might be security breach on your account.

First, I don't have a Bank of America so I was suspicious. I copied the
shortcut link and pasted it into notepad. Instead of
https://www.bankofamerica.com/, it was http://www.castechint.com/doc/

I checked the IP address and it traced to HaKovshim Street in Tel Aviv,
Israel.
IP country code: IL
IP address country: Israel
IP address state: Tel Aviv
IP address city: Tel Aviv-yafo
IP address latitude: 32.0678
IP address longitude: 34.7647
ISP of this IP [?]: Golden Lines Cable
Organization: Golden Lines Cable

Well, anyway, the point of my reply is that I never realized that I could
pin down the street, longitude and longitude of where a message originates.
Man, I learn something new every day!
(I sent the source on to Comcast Abuse.)
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Susan
(not flyin' so much anymore)

On Thu, 3 May 2012 19:25:48 -0400, Susan & Bill wrote:
As part of our security measure, We regularly screen activity in the Bank of
America system. You received this message due to an issue on your account.
Due to unusual number of invalid login attempts on your account, we have
reason to believe there might be security breach on your account.

First, I don't have a Bank of America so I was suspicious. I copied the
shortcut link and pasted it into notepad. Instead of
https://www.bankofamerica.com/, it was http://www.castechint.com/doc/

You need a better mail program. In Thunderbird, when I hover over a
link it shows me the actual URL.

Not that I would ever be stupid enough to click on a link supposedly
from a bank, Papyal, the United Nations compensation fund, or
anything else -- and I'm glad to see that you're not that stupid
either.



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http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

"Shoe" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:22:11 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Asger Joergensen wrote:
Hi richard

richard wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:05:57 -0400, Shoe wrote:

Contrary to hollywood drama, no, they can not pinpoint your location
by
your IP alone.

Shouldn't there have been added ?
unless you have a fixed IP address.

Which can be spoofed, or have all calls to it redirected elsewhere.
OK, thanks. The town it is showing is the adress of my ISP, so your
responses are correct.

Today, I received this:
Subject: NOTICE: Important notice from Bank of America Alert
with this link in the https://www.bankofamerica.com/logon/

and this message:
Security Alert.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As part of our security measure, We regularly screen activity in the Bank
of
America system. You received this message due to an issue on your account.
Due to unusual number of invalid login attempts on your account, we have
reason to believe there might be security breach on your account.

First, I don't have a Bank of America so I was suspicious. I copied the
shortcut link and pasted it into notepad. Instead of
https://www.bankofamerica.com/, it was http://www.castechint.com/doc/

I checked the IP address and it traced to HaKovshim Street in Tel Aviv,
Israel.
IP country code: IL
IP address country: Israel
IP address state: Tel Aviv
IP address city: Tel Aviv-yafo
IP address latitude: 32.0678
IP address longitude: 34.7647
ISP of this IP [?]: Golden Lines Cable
Organization: Golden Lines Cable

Well, anyway, the point of my reply is that I never realized that I could
pin down the street, longitude and longitude of where a message
originates. Man, I learn something new every day!
(I sent the source on to Comcast Abuse.)
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Susan
(not flyin' so much anymore)


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"Susan & Bill" wrote in message
.com...
Or longitude and LATTITUDE!
Susan
(not flyin' so much anymore)