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Old July 30th 18, 05:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Boris[_8_]
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Default "Choose the programs that Windows uses by default"

This is about being able to access the "Custom" section in "Set program
access and computer defaults".

After the Fall Creator's Update, 1709, this ability went away, and we
were instead forced to use the new and 'improved' Windows 10 "Default
apps" settings.

But, there was a way to get back to the old way of doing things, to get
back to the "Custom" section in "Set program access and computer
defaults", by using a CLSID. I need this to set my default email
client. The new Windows 10 Default apps window wouldn't do it. There
was a list of CSLIDs that worked, he

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...-open-control-
panel-items-windows-10-a.html

Now, after version 1803, I need again to reset my default email client
(because 1803 un-did it, which I just noticed on this rarely used
laptop) but the CSLIDs no longer work.

The "send page by email" and "send link by email" became greyed out
again, and I tried using the CSLID that worked right after 1709 broke
the link to the "Custom" section in "Set program access and computer
defaults", but it no longer worked. This explained it:

https://community.spiceworks.com/can.../2-windows-10-
fall-creator-s-update-where-my-default-program-settings-at

I was able to fix this with a registry hack.

I was wondering if anyone knows how to get back to the contents of the
old "Choose the programs that Windows uses by defamlt":

Set your defailt programs
Associate a file type or protocol with a progra
Change AutoPlay settings
Set program access and computer defaults

Thanks,
Boris
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Old July 31st 18, 01:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Monty
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Default "Choose the programs that Windows uses by default"

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 04:29:14 -0000 (UTC), Boris
wrote:

This is about being able to access the "Custom" section in "Set program
access and computer defaults".

After the Fall Creator's Update, 1709, this ability went away, and we
were instead forced to use the new and 'improved' Windows 10 "Default
apps" settings.

But, there was a way to get back to the old way of doing things, to get
back to the "Custom" section in "Set program access and computer
defaults", by using a CLSID. I need this to set my default email
client. The new Windows 10 Default apps window wouldn't do it. There
was a list of CSLIDs that worked, he

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...-open-control-
panel-items-windows-10-a.html

Now, after version 1803, I need again to reset my default email client
(because 1803 un-did it, which I just noticed on this rarely used
laptop) but the CSLIDs no longer work.

The "send page by email" and "send link by email" became greyed out
again, and I tried using the CSLID that worked right after 1709 broke
the link to the "Custom" section in "Set program access and computer
defaults", but it no longer worked. This explained it:

https://community.spiceworks.com/can.../2-windows-10-
fall-creator-s-update-where-my-default-program-settings-at

I was able to fix this with a registry hack.

I was wondering if anyone knows how to get back to the contents of the
old "Choose the programs that Windows uses by defamlt":

Set your defailt programs
Associate a file type or protocol with a progra
Change AutoPlay settings
Set program access and computer defaults

Thanks,


For starters, I have Control Panel set to display icons - not
Category. Category would give a slightly different set of choices
which I won't be attempting to address.

Depending on your Windows 10 build, there may be more than one answer.

Until recently, the simple answer was to start Control Panel and then
select "Default Programs". There you would make a selection from
three of the four options that you list above and proceed from there.
A recent Windows 10 build changed this procedure to the following:

After you select one of the following options:

Set your default programs
Associate a file type or protocol with a program
Set program access and computer defaults

you will be taken to "Default apps" in the Settings panel.

In "Default apps" you are invited to choose your default applications.

The first of these is "Email". The default app for my PC is
Thunderbird. If I wanted to change this to a different app, I could
left click "Thunderbird" and then choose an app from the dropdown
list.

I could have chosen the option of going to "Settings" then "Apps" and
then select "Default apps". I accept that finding the right path can
be challenging; but then the old ways are being replaced by new ways.

(When was the last time you used a crank handle to start your car ?)

Have fun,
  #3  
Old July 31st 18, 05:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Boris[_8_]
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Default "Choose the programs that Windows uses by default"

Monty wrote in
:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 04:29:14 -0000 (UTC), Boris
wrote:

This is about being able to access the "Custom" section in "Set program
access and computer defaults".

After the Fall Creator's Update, 1709, this ability went away, and we
were instead forced to use the new and 'improved' Windows 10 "Default
apps" settings.

But, there was a way to get back to the old way of doing things, to get
back to the "Custom" section in "Set program access and computer
defaults", by using a CLSID. I need this to set my default email
client. The new Windows 10 Default apps window wouldn't do it. There
was a list of CSLIDs that worked, he

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...-open-control-
panel-items-windows-10-a.html

Now, after version 1803, I need again to reset my default email client
(because 1803 un-did it, which I just noticed on this rarely used
laptop) but the CSLIDs no longer work.

The "send page by email" and "send link by email" became greyed out
again, and I tried using the CSLID that worked right after 1709 broke
the link to the "Custom" section in "Set program access and computer
defaults", but it no longer worked. This explained it:

https://community.spiceworks.com/can.../2-windows-10-
fall-creator-s-update-where-my-default-program-settings-at

I was able to fix this with a registry hack.

I was wondering if anyone knows how to get back to the contents of the
old "Choose the programs that Windows uses by defamlt":

Set your defailt programs
Associate a file type or protocol with a progra
Change AutoPlay settings
Set program access and computer defaults

Thanks,


For starters, I have Control Panel set to display icons - not
Category. Category would give a slightly different set of choices
which I won't be attempting to address.

Depending on your Windows 10 build, there may be more than one answer.

Until recently, the simple answer was to start Control Panel and then
select "Default Programs". There you would make a selection from
three of the four options that you list above and proceed from there.
A recent Windows 10 build changed this procedure to the following:

After you select one of the following options:

Set your default programs
Associate a file type or protocol with a program
Set program access and computer defaults

you will be taken to "Default apps" in the Settings panel.

In "Default apps" you are invited to choose your default applications.

The first of these is "Email". The default app for my PC is
Thunderbird. If I wanted to change this to a different app, I could
left click "Thunderbird" and then choose an app from the dropdown
list.

I could have chosen the option of going to "Settings" then "Apps" and
then select "Default apps". I accept that finding the right path can
be challenging; but then the old ways are being replaced by new ways.

(When was the last time you used a crank handle to start your car ?)

Have fun,


Hi, Monty. I appreciate the reply.

Setting Control Panel to Category, or Icons, gives the same results when
then clicking on Default Programs, as you know. I am taken to this
selection:

1)Set your default programs
2)Associate a file type or protocol with a program
3)Change AutoPlay settings
4)Set program access and computer defaults

And then clicking on 4 sends me to the Windows 10 "Default apps" screen,
and that's not where I want to go. I want to click on 4 and then be able
to go to the old "Custom", but I can't get there that way. Why do I want
to go to Custom? Because for the last two 'Feature updates', although I
can successfully select my default mail app in Default apps, Windows Live
Mail, the 'Send link by e-mail', is still greyed out in IE 11. Only going
to "Custom" and selecting Windows Live Mail as my default email program has
activated the link in the past, and now Custom is unavailable.

Even if I go into 'Set defaults by app', and select Windows Live Mail
Manage, and set .eml, .vcf, and MAILTO, the 'Send link by e-mail' is still
greyed out.

(BTW, rolling through all the file types in 'Choose default apps by file
type' is nuts. There should be a 'search' function.)

The only way I was able to get the 'Send link by e-mail' activated is by
messing with the registry.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail and set the (Default) value to
Windows Live Mail. Previously, the (Default) was (value not set), even
though Windows Live Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird, Windows Mail, and Hotmail
were available in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail subkey.

Funny thing now is that no matter what I change the default value to, or
even delete it, Windows Live Mail still launches when I 'Send link by e-
mail'.

And, the changes I make in the registry are not reflected in any of the
Default apps settings (after a reboot, of course). For instance, if I
change the registry to make Windows Mail the default mail client, Windows
Live Mail still shows up in all the Default apps windows/settings, and
Windows Live Mail is still launched from IE 11.

Wonder what the next Feature update will bring.
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Old July 31st 18, 07:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Monty
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Default "Choose the programs that Windows uses by default"

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 04:40:25 -0000 (UTC), Boris
wrote:

Monty wrote in
:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 04:29:14 -0000 (UTC), Boris
wrote:

This is about being able to access the "Custom" section in "Set program
access and computer defaults".

After the Fall Creator's Update, 1709, this ability went away, and we
were instead forced to use the new and 'improved' Windows 10 "Default
apps" settings.

But, there was a way to get back to the old way of doing things, to get
back to the "Custom" section in "Set program access and computer
defaults", by using a CLSID. I need this to set my default email
client. The new Windows 10 Default apps window wouldn't do it. There
was a list of CSLIDs that worked, he

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...-open-control-
panel-items-windows-10-a.html

Now, after version 1803, I need again to reset my default email client
(because 1803 un-did it, which I just noticed on this rarely used
laptop) but the CSLIDs no longer work.

The "send page by email" and "send link by email" became greyed out
again, and I tried using the CSLID that worked right after 1709 broke
the link to the "Custom" section in "Set program access and computer
defaults", but it no longer worked. This explained it:

https://community.spiceworks.com/can.../2-windows-10-
fall-creator-s-update-where-my-default-program-settings-at

I was able to fix this with a registry hack.

I was wondering if anyone knows how to get back to the contents of the
old "Choose the programs that Windows uses by defamlt":

Set your defailt programs
Associate a file type or protocol with a progra
Change AutoPlay settings
Set program access and computer defaults

Thanks,


For starters, I have Control Panel set to display icons - not
Category. Category would give a slightly different set of choices
which I won't be attempting to address.

Depending on your Windows 10 build, there may be more than one answer.

Until recently, the simple answer was to start Control Panel and then
select "Default Programs". There you would make a selection from
three of the four options that you list above and proceed from there.
A recent Windows 10 build changed this procedure to the following:

After you select one of the following options:

Set your default programs
Associate a file type or protocol with a program
Set program access and computer defaults

you will be taken to "Default apps" in the Settings panel.

In "Default apps" you are invited to choose your default applications.

The first of these is "Email". The default app for my PC is
Thunderbird. If I wanted to change this to a different app, I could
left click "Thunderbird" and then choose an app from the dropdown
list.

I could have chosen the option of going to "Settings" then "Apps" and
then select "Default apps". I accept that finding the right path can
be challenging; but then the old ways are being replaced by new ways.

(When was the last time you used a crank handle to start your car ?)

Have fun,


Hi, Monty. I appreciate the reply.

Setting Control Panel to Category, or Icons, gives the same results when
then clicking on Default Programs, as you know. I am taken to this
selection:

1)Set your default programs
2)Associate a file type or protocol with a program
3)Change AutoPlay settings
4)Set program access and computer defaults

And then clicking on 4 sends me to the Windows 10 "Default apps" screen,
and that's not where I want to go. I want to click on 4 and then be able
to go to the old "Custom", but I can't get there that way. Why do I want
to go to Custom? Because for the last two 'Feature updates', although I
can successfully select my default mail app in Default apps, Windows Live
Mail, the 'Send link by e-mail', is still greyed out in IE 11. Only going
to "Custom" and selecting Windows Live Mail as my default email program has
activated the link in the past, and now Custom is unavailable.

Even if I go into 'Set defaults by app', and select Windows Live Mail
Manage, and set .eml, .vcf, and MAILTO, the 'Send link by e-mail' is still
greyed out.

(BTW, rolling through all the file types in 'Choose default apps by file
type' is nuts. There should be a 'search' function.)

The only way I was able to get the 'Send link by e-mail' activated is by
messing with the registry.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail and set the (Default) value to
Windows Live Mail. Previously, the (Default) was (value not set), even
though Windows Live Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird, Windows Mail, and Hotmail
were available in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail subkey.

Funny thing now is that no matter what I change the default value to, or
even delete it, Windows Live Mail still launches when I 'Send link by e-
mail'.

And, the changes I make in the registry are not reflected in any of the
Default apps settings (after a reboot, of course). For instance, if I
change the registry to make Windows Mail the default mail client, Windows
Live Mail still shows up in all the Default apps windows/settings, and
Windows Live Mail is still launched from IE 11.

Wonder what the next Feature update will bring.


There may be a hint for you in this article.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/zkkaa9c

May be the fact that your email program has NOT been updated since
2012 might be a clue that compatability with other programs may be
being 'sacrificed' over a period of time and it is time for a rethink
of your requirements.

Cheers,
 




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