New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".

I upgrades to Windows 10 a few days ago, and have been struggling with
the following matter.

In doing the upgrade from Windows 7, the directories that were on my
desktop got converted to "shared directories" (I have since unshared
them with "remove access"). That is not the problem, that is just the
beginning of the story.

Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the
Desktop folder, they appear in the Desktop folder in
C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/ and they appear again in Desktop
(following the "Recycle Bin") -- and invoking Properties shows them as
having the *very same path* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!!

After fretting over this for a few days, I get the impression that
Windows 10 does not intend for me to access the folder
C:/Users/MyUsername/ at all. That's the only way things currently make
any sense to me.

The redundancy bothered me quite a bit. I would like to see my directory
folders in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/, and Not appearing again at the
end of the //ThisPC/MyDesktop folder. To mind mind, they only serve to
get in the way there (an unnecessary distraction). They remind me of
"symbolic links" from another lifetime, except they are not. I'm
starting to form the impression that this is just "business as usual"
for Windows 10 and MyPC, but I am eager to listen to a human! : )

Thank you for any kind assistance that you may lend me!!!

Bill

On 30/12/2019 13:11, Bill wrote:
After fretting over this for a few days, I get the impression that
Windows 10 does not intend for me to access the folder
C:/Users/MyUsername/ at all.Â* That's the only way things currently make
any sense to me.

To put 'This PC' shortcut on the 'Taskbar';
Click 'Start button'
Scroll down to and click 'Windows System' folder
RightClick on 'This PC'
Click 'More' Click 'Pin to taskbar'

On 12/30/19 8:11 AM, Bill wrote:
I upgrades to Windows 10 a few days ago, and have been struggling with
the following matter.

In doing the upgrade from Windows 7, the directories that were on my
desktop got converted to "shared directories" (I have since unshared
them with "remove access"). That is not the problem, that is just the
beginning of the story.

Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the
Desktop folder,Â* they appear in the Desktop folder in
C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/Â* and they appear again in Desktop
(following the "Recycle Bin") -- andÂ* invoking Properties shows them as
having the *very same path*Â* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!!

After fretting over this for a few days, I get the impression that
Windows 10 does not intend for me to access the folder
C:/Users/MyUsername/ at all.Â* That's the only way things currently make
any sense to me.

The redundancy bothered me quite a bit. I would like to see my directory
foldersÂ* in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/, and Not appearing again at the
end of the //ThisPC/MyDesktop folder.Â* To mind mind, they only serve to
get in the way there (an unnecessary distraction).Â* They remind me of
"symbolic links" from another lifetime, except they are not.Â* I'm
starting to form the impression that this is just "business as usual"
for Windows 10 and MyPC, but I am eager to listen to a human!Â* :Â* )

Thank you for any kind assistance that you may lend me!!!

Bill

It is kinda ridiculous how complex windows makes the directory system on
Windows. No wonder why people IMHO have a horrible time understanding
how to organize a directory tree so things can be found faster.

On the lighter side, you can unpin things in the quick access part of
explorer. And if I recall correctly I've seen people do registry hacks
or setting changes to get rid of some other obvious duplicates.

Al

On 12/30/19 7:48 AM, Big Al wrote:
On 12/30/19 8:11 AM, Bill wrote:
I upgrades to Windows 10 a few days ago, and have been struggling with
the following matter.

In doing the upgrade from Windows 7, the directories that were on my
desktop got converted to "shared directories" (I have since unshared
them with "remove access"). That is not the problem, that is just the
beginning of the story.

Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the
Desktop folder,Â* they appear in the Desktop folder in
C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/Â* and they appear again in Desktop
(following the "Recycle Bin") -- andÂ* invoking Properties shows them as
having the *very same path*Â* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!!

After fretting over this for a few days, I get the impression that
Windows 10 does not intend for me to access the folder
C:/Users/MyUsername/ at all.Â* That's the only way things currently make
any sense to me.

The redundancy bothered me quite a bit. I would like to see my directory
foldersÂ* in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/, and Not appearing again at the
end of the //ThisPC/MyDesktop folder.Â* To mind mind, they only serve to
get in the way there (an unnecessary distraction).Â* They remind me of
"symbolic links" from another lifetime, except they are not.Â* I'm
starting to form the impression that this is just "business as usual"
for Windows 10 and MyPC, but I am eager to listen to a human!Â* :Â* )

Thank you for any kind assistance that you may lend me!!!

Bill

It is kinda ridiculous how complex windows makes the directory system on
Windows. No wonder why people IMHO have a horrible time understanding
how to organize a directory tree so things can be found faster.

On the lighter side, you can unpin things in the quick access part of
explorer. And if I recall correctly I've seen people do registry hacks
or setting changes to get rid of some other obvious duplicates.

IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding
file system organization. But Winfile and Double Commander make things
easier..


--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.6
Firefox 70.0.1
Thunderbird 60.9
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

Bill wrote:
Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the
Desktop folder,Â* they appear in the Desktop folder in
C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/Â* and they appear again in Desktop
(following the "Recycle Bin") -- andÂ* invoking Properties shows them as
having the *very same path*Â* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!!

"Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU
(Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories
are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give
you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding
file system organization.


Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly
inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless.


But Winfile and Double Commander make things
easier..


Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better.


--
Ken

On 12/30/19 8:07 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding
file system organization.


Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly
inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless.

Note that I said useless for a specific purpose. I haven't met a single
person in years that understood the file hierarchy since MS removed the
"lines" and a good file tree structure. :-)


But Winfile and Double Commander make things
easier..


Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better.




--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.6
Firefox 70.0.1
Thunderbird 60.9
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

On 12/30/19 10:34 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/30/19 8:07 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding
file system organization.


Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly
inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless.

Note that I said useless for a specific purpose.Â* I haven't met a single
person in years that understood the file hierarchy since MS removed the
"lines" and a good file tree structure.Â* :-)


But Winfile and Double Commander make things
easier..


Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better.




Don't start throwing stones at me, I'm definitely not pushing anything,
but I like the simple life of Linux that I use. Home is obvious and
folders are below that like Pictures, Documents, Videos, Music etc.

The explorer view is as stated by others, just a tree. You can make
shortcuts in the sidebar like Windows Quick access, or shortcuts on the
desktop if you wish, but it's just a folder and subfolder makeup like
Windows and Linux leaves it alone for the most part.

Granted Linux also has it's issues in that a ton of junk is also put in
you Home and IMHO should be placed in some "config' folder, but forget that.


Al

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Bill wrote:
Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the
Desktop folder, they appear in the Desktop folder in
C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/ and they appear again in Desktop
(following the "Recycle Bin") -- and invoking Properties shows them as
having the *very same path* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!!

"Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU
(Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories
are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give
you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often.

A good deal of the left sidebar can be edited
and materials removed.

For example, the OP will be pleased to know
that HomeGroup is deprecated in Windows 10. Early
versions had it, but it's now partially gutted. Some
of the services remain, and seem to be related to making
file sharing/location work.

And when we use terms like that, they can be tossed into
Google and little tutorials located for manipulation.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

The "Related Tutorials" at the bottom, will help
with other nagging issues. For example.

"How to Add or Remove Homegroup in Navigation Pane
of File Explorer in Windows 10"

"How to Add or Remove Libraries in Navigation Pane
of File Explorer in Windows 10"

"How to Add or Remove OneDrive in Navigation Pane
of File Explorer in Windows 10" === gpedit can remove OneDrive

And then you can go on a rampage until it looks like Win98 :-)
(For some values of rampage)

Now I'm waiting for the "ownership" questions, like "why
can't I plop stuff in my Program Files folder" :-) The OS
having been invented, to be a "Preventer of Progress". There
are a few areas on the disk, which you can't even list.
And items that Windows 10 *used* to put in a particular
folder that "can't be deleted". All these things were done,
as a means to adding puzzles to the OS. When you want to
remove C:\Windows.old, always use cleanmgr.exe, not the
trash can. And be careful with cleanmgr.exe, as the item
"Downloads" is the downloads in your home folder, and there
is a risk of losing years of collected materials if that
tick box is left ticked by accident.

Paul

On 2019-12-30 1:27 p.m., Paul wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Bill wrote:
Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the
Desktop folder,Â* they appear in the Desktop folder in
C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/Â* and they appear again in Desktop
(following the "Recycle Bin") -- andÂ* invoking Properties shows them as
having the *very same path*Â* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!!

"Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU
(Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories
are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give
you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often.

A good deal of the left sidebar can be edited
and materials removed.

For example, the OP will be pleased to know
that HomeGroup is deprecated in Windows 10. Early
versions had it, but it's now partially gutted. Some
of the services remain, and seem to be related to making
file sharing/location work.

And when we use terms like that, they can be tossed into
Google and little tutorials located for manipulation.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html


The "Related Tutorials" at the bottom, will help
with other nagging issues. For example.

Â*Â* "How to Add or Remove Homegroup in Navigation Pane
Â*Â*Â* of File Explorer in Windows 10"

Â*Â* "How to Add or Remove Libraries in Navigation Pane
Â*Â*Â* of File Explorer in Windows 10"

Â*Â* "How to Add or Remove OneDrive in Navigation Pane
Â*Â*Â* of File Explorer in Windows 10" === gpedit can remove OneDrive

And then you can go on a rampage until it looks like Win98 :-)
(For some values of rampage)

Now I'm waiting for the "ownership" questions, like "why
can't I plop stuff in my Program Files folder" :-) The OS
having been invented, to be a "Preventer of Progress". There
are a few areas on the disk, which you can't even list.
And items that Windows 10 *used* to put in a particular
folder that "can't be deleted". All these things were done,
as a means to adding puzzles to the OS. When you want to
remove C:\Windows.old, always use cleanmgr.exe, not the
trash can. And be careful with cleanmgr.exe, as the item
"Downloads" is the downloads in your home folder, and there
is a risk of losing years of collected materials if that
tick box is left ticked by accident.

Â*Â* Paul

To prevent accidents I always move all my downloads to another folder
on another drive which is usually disconnected unless being used.
Also my Macrium backups are treated in like manner.

Rene

On 12/30/2019 12:27 PM, Paul wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Bill wrote:
Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the
Desktop folder, they appear in the Desktop folder in
C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/ and they appear again in Desktop
(following the "Recycle Bin") -- and invoking Properties shows them as
having the *very same path* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!!

"Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU
(Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories
are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give
you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often.

A good deal of the left sidebar can be edited
and materials removed.

For example, the OP will be pleased to know
that HomeGroup is deprecated in Windows 10. Early
versions had it, but it's now partially gutted. Some
of the services remain, and seem to be related to making
file sharing/location work.

And when we use terms like that, they can be tossed into
Google and little tutorials located for manipulation.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

The "Related Tutorials" at the bottom, will help
with other nagging issues. For example.

"How to Add or Remove Homegroup in Navigation Pane
of File Explorer in Windows 10"

"How to Add or Remove Libraries in Navigation Pane
of File Explorer in Windows 10"


I've tried all the ways it lists to hide Libraries without any success.
Any thoughts as to why?


--
Ken

On 12/30/19 12:26 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 12/30/19 10:34 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/30/19 8:07 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding
file system organization.


Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly
inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless.

Note that I said useless for a specific purpose.Â* I haven't met a single
person in years that understood the file hierarchy since MS removed the
"lines" and a good file tree structure.Â* :-)


But Winfile and Double Commander make things
easier..


Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better.




Don't start throwing stones at me, I'm definitely not pushing anything,
but I like the simple life of Linux that I use. Home is obvious and
folders are below that like Pictures, Documents, Videos, Music etc.

No stones, Al, you're safe! LOL

That's the arrangement in Mint 19. Unfortunately, it gives you no hint
as to how the entire file structure is arranged on the hard drive. Just
the name of the folder.

That's what I like with the original File Manager. You can see just
about the entire disk, IIRC.

The explorer view is as stated by others, just a tree. You can make
shortcuts in the sidebar like Windows Quick access, or shortcuts on the
desktop if you wish, but it's just a folder and subfolder makeup like
Windows and Linux leaves it alone for the most part.

You can do the same in the sidebar in Mac's Finder.

Granted Linux also has it's issues in that a ton of junk is also put in
you Home and IMHO should be placed in some "config' folder, but forget that.

--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.6
Firefox 70.0.1
Thunderbird 60.9
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

On 12/30/2019 12:26 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 12/30/19 10:34 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/30/19 8:07 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding
file system organization.


Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly
inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless.

Note that I said useless for a specific purpose.Â* I haven't met a single
person in years that understood the file hierarchy since MS removed the
"lines" and a good file tree structure.Â* :-)


But Winfile and Double Commander make things
easier..


Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better.




Don't start throwing stones at me, I'm definitely not pushing anything,
but I like the simple life of Linux that I use. Home is obvious and


I won't throw stones at you, but I'll point out that this is a newsgroup
to help people with Windows 10 problems. You're welcome to prefer Linux
to Windows 10, but telling us that you do and why you do is way off
topic for the newsgroup in general and for this thread in particular.


--
Ken

On 12/30/2019 2:47 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Now I'm waiting for the "ownership" questions, like "why
can't I plop stuff in my Program Files folder"
While I have not added 64 bit programs that are not self installed, I
have added 32 bit programs to keep all of the programs in one place. I
have added a folder for both T-clock and Ruler to the Program(86) folder.

T-Clock is a small program that adds functionality to the clock
function. It replaces the MS clock in the left end of the tool bar, and
gives me the ability to copy time and date strings from the clock. ie
strings like date 01/01/20 or Jan 20 2020, and similar strings.

Ruler is a simple program that adds a ruler to the screen. I use it
when laying out things in the word processing program.

On 12/30/19 1:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/30/2019 12:27 PM, Paul wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Bill wrote:
Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the
Desktop folder, they appear in the Desktop folder in
C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/ and they appear again in Desktop
(following the "Recycle Bin") -- and invoking Properties shows them as
having the *very same path* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!!

"Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU
(Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories
are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give
you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often.

A good deal of the left sidebar can be edited
and materials removed.

For example, the OP will be pleased to know
that HomeGroup is deprecated in Windows 10. Early
versions had it, but it's now partially gutted. Some
of the services remain, and seem to be related to making
file sharing/location work.

And when we use terms like that, they can be tossed into
Google and little tutorials located for manipulation.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

The "Related Tutorials" at the bottom, will help
with other nagging issues. For example.

"How to Add or Remove Homegroup in Navigation Pane
of File Explorer in Windows 10"

"How to Add or Remove Libraries in Navigation Pane
of File Explorer in Windows 10"


I've tried all the ways it lists to hide Libraries without any success.
Any thoughts as to why?

By "hiding", do you mean not having the libraries actually be listed in
the navigation pane? For me, I right click in a blank area of the
navigation pane, uncheck Show Libraries and uncheck Show all folders,
and libraries is no longer listed.


--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.6
Firefox 70.0.1
Thunderbird 60.9
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"