Why Linux Sucks- 2020 Version

On 03/01/2020 21:46, Diesel wrote:
What of the post did you understand?

That I'm FAR better off with Apple macOS :-D

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:34:22 +0000
David wrote:

"Pan" is the standard usenet client under MX 19. It is also
available for Mac: https://pan.rebelbase.com/screenshots/

There appears to be a problem with that page:-
https://imgur.com/yz2iZja

David,

you can ignore this warning of Firefox and continue.

Thanks, Michael. Some years ago I spent many hours trying to get Pan
to work satisfactorily on my iMac - and I couldn't do it. :-(

Thunderbird and SeaMonkey work fairly well for me.

I'm writing this with "Claws Mail" on MX 19. I like it more than Pan.
It has a keep function for usenet messages and better ways of sorting,
a better list for all usenet groups to choose from.

But I will stick to Windows for most of the things I have to do on a
PC, which means I will stick with my old Thunderbird and old Agent.

Regards

M.

On 03/01/2020 22:57, Michael Logies wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:34:22 +0000
David wrote:

"Pan" is the standard usenet client under MX 19. It is also
available for Mac: https://pan.rebelbase.com/screenshots/

There appears to be a problem with that page:-
https://imgur.com/yz2iZja

David,

you can ignore this warning of Firefox and continue.

There were warnings from Safari and Chrome too ......

But I looked anyway! ;-)

Thanks, Michael. Some years ago I spent many hours trying to get Pan
to work satisfactorily on my iMac - and I couldn't do it. :-(

Thunderbird and SeaMonkey work fairly well for me.

I'm writing this with "Claws Mail" on MX 19. I like it more than Pan.
It has a keep function for usenet messages and better ways of sorting,
a better list for all usenet groups to choose from.

But I will stick to Windows for most of the things I have to do on a
PC, which means I will stick with my old Thunderbird and old Agent.

Regards

M.

I've looked here briefly https://mxlinux.org/mx19-features/

Perhaps I'll have a play one day when it's raining! ;-)

Regards reciprocated!

D.

In article
XnsAB39AB4368593HT1@UOIXMMu3V6w40awHiSnqrQGYKkmK3 z2SK9mFDhrI8N.Ip903poH
P, Diesel wrote:

And, with mobile phones, Linux has taken over the world.

no it hasn't.

Pretty much it has.

no, it definitely hasn't.

linus ix mostly used in servers and embedded devices, *not* the desktop
or pocket.

linux on the desktop is 1% share. for mobile, it's either android or
ios. android has a stripped down kernel with android on top and ios
does not have any linux whatsoever (although does use a significant
amount of open source components).

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

android is not a full linux distro. it's the linux kernel, with
android built on top of it. all apps are written to android apis,
not linux.

LINUX itself IS ONLY the kernel.

when people say linux, they mean the full install, not just the kernel,
which is useless without anything else.

android uses a stripped down linux kernel since quite a bit of it is
not relevant for a mobile device or android itself.

Android is just as much a linux distro
as redhat, slack, debian, mint, etc are.

android is in no way a linux distro like redhat etc.

note that android is listed separately in the link above, not lumped
into linux.

In article , William Poaster
wrote:

It's one reason why Linux users are considered dysfunctional. There are
many more of course but we can leave that for another day.

I guess NASA, CERN, Fermilab, SpaceX, Microsoft (Azure), US Navy
submarines, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, New York Stock Exchange, US Postal
Service, Schools, colleges and Universities in Russia, Germany,
Philippines, Georgia, Switzerland, Italy, India are all dysfunctional
then.

most people at those companies and schools use mac, windows, ios and
android, not linux, although they might use linux indirectly, such as
on a server.

nasa used a lot of macs for the curiousity mars landing:
http://i.imgur.com/iua4C.jpg
https://photos2.insidercdn.com/mars1208060-2.jpg

On 02/01/2020 18.34, nospam wrote:
In article , John Wesley Harding
wrote:

And, with mobile phones, Linux has taken over the world.

no it hasn't.

android is not a full linux distro. it's the linux kernel, with android
built on top of it. all apps are written to android apis, not linux.

It is just Linux with a different desktop :-P


linux on the desktop currently has a very low single digit percentage
market share. that is not 'taking over the world'.

We don't need the desktop if we have all the rest :-P


for servers and embedded devices, it's quite common, however.



--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 2020-01-03 5:19 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article
XnsAB39AB4368593HT1@UOIXMMu3V6w40awHiSnqrQGYKkmK3 z2SK9mFDhrI8N.Ip903poH
P, Diesel wrote:

And, with mobile phones, Linux has taken over the world.

no it hasn't.

Pretty much it has.

no, it definitely hasn't.

linus ix mostly used in servers and embedded devices, *not* the desktop
or pocket.

linux on the desktop is 1% share. for mobile, it's either android or
ios. android has a stripped down kernel with android on top and ios
does not have any linux whatsoever (although does use a significant
amount of open source components).

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share

android is not a full linux distro. it's the linux kernel, with
android built on top of it. all apps are written to android apis,
not linux.

LINUX itself IS ONLY the kernel.

when people say linux, they mean the full install, not just the kernel,
which is useless without anything else.

android uses a stripped down linux kernel since quite a bit of it is
not relevant for a mobile device or android itself.

Android is just as much a linux distro
as redhat, slack, debian, mint, etc are.

android is in no way a linux distro like redhat etc.

note that android is listed separately in the link above, not lumped
into linux.


i like the "unknown" with 1.25%!

if it's unknown, how can it be listed as having a share?
That's like saying, I have an imaginary friend that owns 5% of the
worlds imaginary money (I think). :-)

And a belated Happy New years To All. :-)

Rene

On 2020-01-03 5:19 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , William Poaster
wrote:

It's one reason why Linux users are considered dysfunctional. There are
many more of course but we can leave that for another day.

I guess NASA, CERN, Fermilab, SpaceX, Microsoft (Azure), US Navy
submarines, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, New York Stock Exchange, US Postal
Service, Schools, colleges and Universities in Russia, Germany,
Philippines, Georgia, Switzerland, Italy, India are all dysfunctional
then.

most people at those companies and schools use mac, windows, ios and
android, not linux, although they might use linux indirectly, such as
on a server.

nasa used a lot of macs for the curiousity mars landing:
http://i.imgur.com/iua4C.jpg
https://photos2.insidercdn.com/mars1208060-2.jpg


I had an Apple Macintosh once, I gave it away. :-(
I had a Macintosh apple many times, I ate them, Really good. :-)

Rene

On 1/3/20 5:11 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-01-03 5:19 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , William Poaster
wrote:

It's one reason why Linux users are considered dysfunctional. There
are
many more of course but we can leave that for another day.

I guess NASA, CERN, Fermilab, SpaceX, Microsoft (Azure), US Navy
submarines, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, New York Stock Exchange, US
Postal
Service, Schools, colleges and Universities in Russia, Germany,
Philippines, Georgia, Switzerland, Italy, IndiaÂ* are all dysfunctional
then.

most people at those companies and schools use mac, windows, ios and
android, not linux, although they might use linux indirectly, such as
on a server.

nasa used a lot of macs for the curiousity mars landing:
http://i.imgur.com/iua4C.jpg
https://photos2.insidercdn.com/mars1208060-2.jpg


I had an Apple Macintosh once, I gave it away. :-(
I had a Macintosh apple many times, I ate them, Really good. :-)

Rene



The fruit is not Macintosh... it is McIntosh. Apple spelled it that way
because another company was already spelling it correctly.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:


https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share


....

i like the "unknown" with 1.25%!

if it's unknown, how can it be listed as having a share?
That's like saying, I have an imaginary friend that owns 5% of the
worlds imaginary money (I think). :-)

no, it simply means it's something other than android, ios, macos,
windows or linux.

they don't have a category for chrome os, so it might include that, or
that might be lumped in with linux.

it could also be a custom build of the usual suspects that didn't
report what it is, therefore it's unknown.

in any event, it's small.


And a belated Happy New years To All. :-)

you too.

In article , Snit
wrote:

I had an Apple Macintosh once, I gave it away. :-(
I had a Macintosh apple many times, I ate them, Really good. :-)

Rene



The fruit is not Macintosh... it is McIntosh. Apple spelled it that way
because another company was already spelling it correctly.

that company was https://www.mcintoshlabs.com, who is known for audio
equipment that uses vacuum tubes/valves.

apple later licensed the trademark and eventually bought it outright.

William Poaster wrote in
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 16:48:12 +0000, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2020-01-03, Tig Welder wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 00:44:45 +0000, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 03/01/2020 00:01, Jasen Betts wrote:
probably some sort of windows font bug.



Probably it is what psychologists call " Self-fulfilling prophecy "
on your part so I suggest take this crap to your Linux Junk
newsgroup as Windows has what you call some sort of font bug.

Surely, you don't want to hang out with Windows users who have some
sort of bug as you have managed to diagnose them from your basement
apartment window.

The funny part is he is using slrn which is a throwback to the
1970's and a DEC VT100 terminal.
Every option, including colors, are controlled by a text
configuration file .slrnrc.

Guess what. I find article navigation clunky and slow with GUI
newsreader ... with keyboard I am much faster and don't waste time on
clicks...

So if you want to change the color of the text for example you need
to edit the file and add something like CYAN to it, then save,
restart slrn, rinse and repeat 100 times until you find a
combination you like.

So what? How many times you change color of text?


Also slrn needs a helper application like slrnpull or leafnode to
read offline. Otherwise it downloads one article at a time as you
read them.

That's much better with broadband internet.

Very slow, especially considering it's a cli application.

Bull****.


Linux worshipers wear slrn like some badge of intelligence because
they were able to configure and use it. Doesn't matter that it's a
God awful program still left in the 70's, the complexity, especially
when coupled with the editor vi or emacs makes them feel superior.

Guess what, with vim and slrn I am much faster.


It's one reason why Linux users are considered dysfunctional. There
are many more of course but we can leave that for another day.

I guess NASA, CERN, Fermilab, SpaceX, Microsoft (Azure), US Navy
submarines, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, New York Stock Exchange, US
Postal Service, Schools, colleges and Universities in Russia, Germany,
Philippines, Georgia, Switzerland, Italy, India are all dysfunctional
then.

Click click click.... dysfunctional dumb Windows user...

They're dumber than bricks.

William Poaster = Janitor at a hospital who once won an award for
"Janitor Of The Year".

No, I am not kidding.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...vocacy/janitor
$20of$20the$20year%7Csort:date

or

https://tinyurl.com/sgest6l

On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 20:04:22 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:


https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share


...

i like the "unknown" with 1.25%!

if it's unknown, how can it be listed as having a share?
That's like saying, I have an imaginary friend that owns 5% of the
worlds imaginary money (I think). :-)

no, it simply means it's something other than android, ios, macos,
windows or linux.

they don't have a category for chrome os, so it might include that, or
that might be lumped in with linux.

it could also be a custom build of the usual suspects that didn't
report what it is, therefore it's unknown.

It's probably mostly Linux dweebs who love to play with their browser
ID string as much as they love putting X-Headers with all kinds of
stupid, anti Microsoft stuff in their Usenet posts.

in any event, it's small.

Like desktop Linux in general


And a belated Happy New years To All. :-)

you too.

Same here.

On 2020-01-03 7:04 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:


https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share


...

i like the "unknown" with 1.25%!

if it's unknown, how can it be listed as having a share?
That's like saying, I have an imaginary friend that owns 5% of the
worlds imaginary money (I think). :-)

no, it simply means it's something other than android, ios, macos,
windows or linux.

they don't have a category for chrome os, so it might include that, or
that might be lumped in with linux.

it could also be a custom build of the usual suspects that didn't
report what it is, therefore it's unknown.

in any event, it's small.


And a belated Happy New years To All. :-)

you too.


Let's not forget Applesoft. :-)

Rene

On 2020-01-03 7:04 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

I had an Apple Macintosh once, I gave it away. :-(
I had a Macintosh apple many times, I ate them, Really good. :-)

Rene



The fruit is not Macintosh... it is McIntosh. Apple spelled it that way
because another company was already spelling it correctly.

that company was https://www.mcintoshlabs.com, who is known for audio
equipment that uses vacuum tubes/valves.

apple later licensed the trademark and eventually bought it outright.


Ah yes, and their Tube type Amps are still some of the best .

Rene