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Epson tech support and wawrranty
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 21:04:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Char Jackson writes: On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 08:05:39 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: [] Which version actually supported concurrent connections to multiple NNTP servers? I remember long ago trialing a free version of Agent and found it only supported one server. To get around this, I had to copy a config file that specified the server. Each copy would specify the server that I wanted to use during an Agent session. I used a batch file to select which config file to overwrite the default config file and then load Agent. I had to exit Agent and rerun the batch file to select a different NNTP server. What a pain. It's water under the bridge now, but you didn't have to do all of that. You simply create your various config (.ini) files, each pointing to its own server, then create a series of desktop shortcuts that tell Agent to use the proper .ini file. No batch files, no overwriting, no pain. It's still a hack, but it's completely painless. [] As you say, water under the bridge now, but (once the batch or .ini files have been created), I can't see much difference between the two methods - you still have to close Agent in order to open it again with a different server. But not with modern versions of Agent, which support multiple servers. I'm using 6.0 now, but 5 supported multiple servers too. I think 4 also did, but I don't have a clear memory of 4, and I might be wrong. |
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Epson tech support and wawrranty
Char Jackson wrote:
It's water under the bridge now, but you didn't have to do all of that. You simply create your various config (.ini) files, each pointing to its own server, then create a series of desktop shortcuts that tell Agent to use the proper .ini file. No batch files, no overwriting, no pain. It's still a hack, but it's completely painless. Perhaps back then Agent was capable of handling command-line arguments but nobody mentioned that back then. That's why I came up with my own scheme of overwriting the config file with a copy modified for the server that I wanted to use. I had one shortcut that ran a batch file where I could interactively select which server to use. Or I could've used multiple shortcuts and select which one for the server to use. Pretty similar schemes. Later Agent added support for multiple concurrent server access during an Agent session but I don't remember which version added that. Same here. I use v2.0, so it was after that. Possibly 4.0? I thought multiple concurrent server access showed up in a free version. That's why I was thinking maybe 3.3 would have that option. I also remember asking in the Forte newsgroup on how to define rules. Turned out for the old version that I was trialing that rules could not be saved. The closest I could do was to define searches that would effectively perform the filtering; however, I had to run the searches to manually instigate the "filtering". What a pain. I believe that was a limitation of the free version, along with no MIME support, or was it no support for multipart messages. Hey, they had to hold a few things back or no one would have bought it. Had no need to reconstruct multiple posts into a binary as I didn't bother with binary newsgroups. There are some that are okay but the vast majority had blue content. That made me immediately look for something more robust. That made me immediately buy it, since I wanted those features. I was looking for something free. I trialed many free newsreaders. Dialog actually got declined in several trials because it did not have some of the features in Agent or even in OE; however, after I decided to spend more time with it on defining custom scripts along with better learning of regex and the ability to apply them to all headers made go with that NNTP client. It was a close call. If Dialog had not be customizable and since the others kept falling short, yeah, I probably would've bought Agent. Even OE was better -- UGH! We disagree there. My opinions ware in regards to the free version of Agent that had only one server access per Agent session and no rules. OE had those features. However, I did use OE-QuoteFix until SP-3 for Windows XP that gave me the registry hacks to bottom-post and where to position the sigblock. OE-QuoteFix had some other nice features but none critical for my use of the client. Then the author demanded that I disabled security in OE, like NOT retrieving linked images in a message (which could be web beacons), because his program couldn't handle the changed renderer. I suspect that I was also skewed to something with a more modern GUI than Agent's ancient blocky style that looked like I was back using Windows 3. From online image searches, this is the GUI for Forte Agent 1.93: http://images.six.betanews.com/scree...12115881-1.gif This is the GUI for Forte Agent 3.3: https://pxhst.co/avaxhome/2006-06-30/screenshot.jpg They look identical so there wouldn't be much of a learning curve to move to the latest free version. I agree, they look identical, and neither looks like my 2.0, which makes me think that the picture of 1.93 is actually another picture of 3.3. Versions 1.93 and 2.0 don't have "Desks". That was added later. Maybe the guy that put together http://jeos.it/img/photos/index.php?p=13 got the wrong image to store there for 1.93. Unfortunately some of his other pics and those of others showing 1.93 are hosted at a long-lived malware domain, like at (link has been modified to add spaces so it is not clickable): http:// users. telenet. be/ sb/ agentnld/ images/ agent10.png A PNG file is probably safe from malware infected. |
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Epson tech support and wawrranty
Ken Blake wrote:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: As you say, water under the bridge now, but (once the batch or .ini files have been created), I can't see much difference between the two methods - you still have to close Agent in order to open it again with a different server. But not with modern versions of Agent, which support multiple servers. Which became payware-only. No freeware version after 3.3. Forte took overly long to add multi-server support considering the plethora of clients (well, back then) that had it for some time. |
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