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I am downloading the Windows 10 ISO (is that all I need)
On 8/19/2015 at 9:08:26 AM ceg wrote:
BTW, if anyone needs it, the 64-bit and 32-bit Win10 ISO's are he http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...d/windows10ISO The 32-bit ISO took about two hours (on a relatively slow connection), and the 64-bit ISO took twice as long, and seems to have failed in the end, so I'll try again to create the ISO. ....but the link you are quoting does not allow to directly download the ..iso file. It requires to install the Media Creation Tool first. Unless I'm blind... -- tb |
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I am downloading the Windows 10 ISO (is that all I need)
On 08/19/2015 01:04 PM, tb wrote:
On 8/19/2015 at 9:08:26 AM ceg wrote: BTW, if anyone needs it, the 64-bit and 32-bit Win10 ISO's are he http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...d/windows10ISO The 32-bit ISO took about two hours (on a relatively slow connection), and the 64-bit ISO took twice as long, and seems to have failed in the end, so I'll try again to create the ISO. ...but the link you are quoting does not allow to directly download the .iso file. It requires to install the Media Creation Tool first. Unless I'm blind... I downloaded the ISO (64-bit) from that page, and used it to upgrade a Win8.1 installation. I never saw a link to any "Media Creation Tool". -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "I would rather live and love where death is king than have eternal life where love is not." [Robert G. Ingersoll] |
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I am downloading the Windows 10 ISO (is that all I need)
On 8/19/2015 at 2:04:52 PM ceg wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:04:39 +0000, tb wrote: I have directly downloaded both the Win10 32-bit & 64-bit ISO files from: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...d/windows10ISO Ok, then I am blind! Where on that page do you see the link to directly download the .iso file? -- tb |
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I am downloading the Windows 10 ISO (is that all I need)
Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 08/19/2015 01:04 PM, tb wrote: On 8/19/2015 at 9:08:26 AM ceg wrote: BTW, if anyone needs it, the 64-bit and 32-bit Win10 ISO's are he http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...d/windows10ISO The 32-bit ISO took about two hours (on a relatively slow connection), and the 64-bit ISO took twice as long, and seems to have failed in the end, so I'll try again to create the ISO. ...but the link you are quoting does not allow to directly download the .iso file. It requires to install the Media Creation Tool first. Unless I'm blind... I downloaded the ISO (64-bit) from that page, and used it to upgrade a Win8.1 installation. I never saw a link to any "Media Creation Tool". The web page has "variant behavior". On modern Windows, you will be given MediaCreationTool.exe from that web page. Using older Windows or foreign systems, the download will be a *direct* ISO (because MediaCreationTool.exe won't run on just anything). The ISO is custom made for you (apparently) and uses disk storage on a server somewhere. The ISO is valid for download, for 24 hours. The first times I tried it, the ISO was corrupted. Paul |
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I am downloading the Windows 10 ISO (is that all I need)
tb wrote:
On 8/19/2015 at 2:04:52 PM ceg wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:04:39 +0000, tb wrote: I have directly downloaded both the Win10 32-bit & 64-bit ISO files from: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...d/windows10ISO Ok, then I am blind! Where on that page do you see the link to directly download the .iso file? Got a WinXP computer ? Try browsing to that page while running WinXP. What happened today ? Note that a visit to that page, doesn't even need to have consistent behavior from one day to the next. Paul |
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I am downloading the Windows 10 ISO (is that all I need)
On 8/19/2015 at 7:47:48 PM ceg wrote:
I just went there, on Firefox on Linux, and got the Win10 ISO download. You have to first hit "Select Edition" "Windows 10" and then "Confirm". Then you hit "English" and then "Confirm". What you get are download links for both the 32-bit & 64-bit iso. Aaahhh... now I understand! What I was doing wrong is going to that page you gave me using Windows 7. Doing that would only give me the choice to download the Media Creation Tool. I went to the same page using Slackware Linux and, sure enough, it gives you the option to download the .iso file. I did that and burned it to a DVD. Next question: After having downloaded and burned the .iso file, I tried booting up the DVD from my Linux PC (i.e. a PC that only has Linux installed on it). Just for the fun of it. Inserted the DVD in the tray, shut down the system, rebooted. It did not go very far... All it did during the bootup process was for the DVD to spin for a few seconds. Then a small cyan/white Microsoft Windows logo appeared in the middle of the screen, on a black backgound. And that was it! The screen remained frozen to the cyan/white Microsoft Windows logo on a black background. Am I to conclude that the .iso file downloaded and burned to a DVD boots up only if it detects that Microsoft Windows is installed on the PC? -- tb |
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I am downloading the Windows 10 ISO (is that all I need)
tb wrote:
On 8/19/2015 at 7:47:48 PM ceg wrote: I just went there, on Firefox on Linux, and got the Win10 ISO download. You have to first hit "Select Edition" "Windows 10" and then "Confirm". Then you hit "English" and then "Confirm". What you get are download links for both the 32-bit & 64-bit iso. Aaahhh... now I understand! What I was doing wrong is going to that page you gave me using Windows 7. Doing that would only give me the choice to download the Media Creation Tool. I went to the same page using Slackware Linux and, sure enough, it gives you the option to download the .iso file. I did that and burned it to a DVD. Next question: After having downloaded and burned the .iso file, I tried booting up the DVD from my Linux PC (i.e. a PC that only has Linux installed on it). Just for the fun of it. Inserted the DVD in the tray, shut down the system, rebooted. It did not go very far... All it did during the bootup process was for the DVD to spin for a few seconds. Then a small cyan/white Microsoft Windows logo appeared in the middle of the screen, on a black backgound. And that was it! The screen remained frozen to the cyan/white Microsoft Windows logo on a black background. Am I to conclude that the .iso file downloaded and burned to a DVD boots up only if it detects that Microsoft Windows is installed on the PC? Your ISO could be corrupted. 1) Yes, we have a windows10 page which purports to provide media for you. 2) If you run a web browser on Win7, Win8, Win10 even, the web site uses the USER AGENT string to figure out you're on an advanced windows system. One likely to have .NET to run the MediaCreationTool.exe. Microsoft then gives you a copy of that to run, to do the download step. 3) If you're on WinXP or Linux, Microsoft resorts to giving a direct link to the ISO9660 file. No download manager is used. MediaCreationTool is a download manager, and can detect trouble. When you download an ISO directly, as in the (3) case, it's up to you to figure out the file is truncated. I used WinXP (method 3), and two ISO downloads were corrupted. This is what I eventually got. Win10_English_x64.iso 4,083,853,312 bytes (Canadian version?) Win10_English_x32.iso 3,052,865,536 bytes (Canadian version?) And Mike Tomlinson got [me@linuxbox downloaded ISO]$ ls -l total 6976272 -rw-rw-r-- 1 me users 3052865536 Jul 11 05:29 Win10_English_x32.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 me users 4083853312 Jul 10 22:39 Win10_English_x64.iso So we seem to have the same size of file. Mike's MD5sum 99feb0f9e7262b7eefa460840a31b59d Win10_English_x32.iso 23e397a21a9e01f141c64b7e1260314a Win10_English_x64.iso And I got 99feb0f9e7262b7eefa460840a31b59d *Win10_English_x32.iso 23e397a21a9e01f141c64b7e1260314a *Win10_English_x64.iso So the final disks are the same. When you use MediaCreationTool, the install.esd downloaded, no two are the same. If the install.esd is used directly on a ISO, then no two ISO files would be the same. If an install.esd is converted to an install.wim, then all the install.wim files should be the same. And a look inside the ISO shows an install.wim. (My Win8 media here, uses install.esd) Someone who has an ISO created with the MediaCreationTool, should look at their disc to see whether it has install.esd or install.wim. And 7ZIP can no longer open the install.wim, so Microsoft changed it. After Microsoft having written a public spec for WIM a couple of years ago and everything. Paul |
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I am downloading the Windows 10 ISO (is that all I need)
Paul wrote on 08/20/2015 10:59 AM:
Your ISO could be corrupted. 1) Yes, we have a windows10 page which purports to provide media for you. 2) If you run a web browser on Win7, Win8, Win10 even, the web site uses the USER AGENT string to figure out you're on an advanced windows system. One likely to have .NET to run the MediaCreationTool.exe. Microsoft then gives you a copy of that to run, to do the download step. 3) If you're on WinXP or Linux, Microsoft resorts to giving a direct link to the ISO9660 file. No download manager is used. MediaCreationTool is a download manager, and can detect trouble. When you download an ISO directly, as in the (3) case, it's up to you to figure out the file is truncated. +1 -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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I am downloading the Windows 10 ISO (is that all I need)
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:04:10 +0000 (UTC), "tb"
wrote: Aaahhh... now I understand! What I was doing wrong is going to that page you gave me using Windows 7. Doing that would only give me the choice to download the Media Creation Tool. And if you had followed through with that download, running the MCT would in turn have provided the capability to download either or both of the ISO files. So either way, you get to the same place. The MCT approach allegedly does an integrity check, though, so that's helpful. |
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