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Help! Something made all folders/files read only
I think it was the latest MS rollout today. Everything on my computer,
both C: and D: have been made read only. And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only. Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? |
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Help! Something made all folders/files read only
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:07:46 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote: I think it was the latest MS rollout today. Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only. And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only. Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? What does the right click -- properties-- advanced etc say ? Maybe it's in some "offline" mode. First thing I'd do is a malware scan, if you are sure it wasn't you .... []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Help! Something made all folders/files read only
On 12/12/2018 8:30 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:07:46 -0500, Art Todesco wrote: I think it was the latest MS rollout today. Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only. And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only. Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? What does the right click -- properties-- advanced etc say ? Maybe it's in some "offline" mode. First thing I'd do is a malware scan, if you are sure it wasn't you .... []'s If I double click on my d: drive and then right click on the folder where all my files and subfolders are kept, I show it as read only but with a grayed check mark. Then if I click on the grayed check mark, the check mark goes away. If I click ok, it goes through all the files and folders, but nothing changes. The next time I check, that folder still shows read only (gray check). I may not have administrative permission. BTW, this all happened after installing the MS monthly rollout this morning. |
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Help! Something made all folders/files read only
Art Todesco wrote:
If I double click on my d: drive and then right click on the folder where all my files and subfolders are kept, I show it as read only but with a grayed check mark. Then if I click on the grayed check mark, the check mark goes away. If I click ok, it goes through all the files and folders, but nothing changes. The next time I check, that folder still shows read only (gray check). I may not have administrative permission. BTW, this all happened after installing the MS monthly rollout this morning. That's an old one, but I haven't heard anybody ask it for quite a while. Folders DO NOT have a read-only attribute. What you're seeing is a short-cut to setting or clearing the attribute for all the contained files at once. That's why it appears grayed-out each time you open it: that's the neutral setting of a three-state check box. -- Tim Slattery tim at risingdove dot com |
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Help! Something made all folders/files read only
"Art Todesco" wrote
| If I double click on my d: drive and then right click on the folder | where all my files and subfolders are kept, I show it as read only but | with a grayed check mark. That's been true for a long time. It's meaningless. But you mentioned files, too. Forget the folders. Are there actually files you can't edit? If so, what program is telling you that? If you edit a TXT files does Notepad refuse to save it? Does all of your software refuse to save changes to anything? If all you're concerned about is read-only folders then you don't have to worry. Even on XP folders are read-only. It allows the system to assign custom icons using a desktop.ini file. |
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On 12/12/2018 9:41 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Art Todesco" wrote | If I double click on my d: drive and then right click on the folder | where all my files and subfolders are kept, I show it as read only but | with a grayed check mark. That's been true for a long time. It's meaningless. But you mentioned files, too. Forget the folders. Are there actually files you can't edit? If so, what program is telling you that? If you edit a TXT files does Notepad refuse to save it? Does all of your software refuse to save changes to anything? If all you're concerned about is read-only folders then you don't have to worry. Even on XP folders are read-only. It allows the system to assign custom icons using a desktop.ini file. I just tried to open a libreoffice document on the d: several folders in and got a box saying that I can open the read-only or I can open a copy. The file properties does not shot read-only. Also, if I drag/drop a file from the desktop to any folder in the d: drive, it says I can't do it saying I need permission to do this. Yesterday I did it. Today I can't. |
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Help! Something made all folders/files read only
In message , Art Todesco
writes: I think it was the latest MS rollout today. Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only. And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only. Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? AskWoody says "December 2018 Patch Tuesday is under way" and "MS-DEFCON 2: Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it." If you're pretty convinced it _is_ the update (I see three - a .net one, a system one, and the usual MSRT), have you tried a System Restore? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf You cannot simply assume someone is honest just because they are not an MP. |
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On 12/12/2018 10:27 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Art Todesco writes: I think it was the latest MS rollout today.Â* Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only.Â* And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only.Â* Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? AskWoody says "December 2018 Patch Tuesday is under way" and "MS-DEFCON 2: Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it." If you're pretty convinced it _is_ the update (I see three - a .net one, a system one, and the usual MSRT), have you tried a System Restore? No I haven't ... will do that next. Also, I can't even change the name of any file on my data drive, d:, as it complains, "Unknown User"! What's that all about? |
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Help! Something made all folders/files read only
In message , Art Todesco
writes: [] "Art Todesco" wrote | If I double click on my d: drive and then right click on the folder | where all my files and subfolders are kept, I show it as read only but | with a grayed check mark. [] I just tried to open a libreoffice document on the d: several folders in and got a box saying that I can open the read-only or I can open a copy. The file properties does not shot read-only. Also, if I drag/drop a file from the desktop to any folder in the d: drive, it says I can't do it saying I need permission to do this. Yesterday I did it. Today I can't. If Windows is running, I _think_ that means you can write to C: at least; I don't _think_ Windows will run if you can't. Your D: isn't an SSD that's suddenly hit end-of-life, is it? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Don't hit the keys so hard, it hurts. |
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On 12/12/2018 10:38 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
On 12/12/2018 10:27 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Art Todesco writes: I think it was the latest MS rollout today.Â* Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only.Â* And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only.Â* Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? AskWoody says "December 2018 Patch Tuesday is under way" and "MS-DEFCON 2: Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it." If you're pretty convinced it _is_ the update (I see three - a .net one, a system one, and the usual MSRT), have you tried a System Restore? No I haven't ... will do that next.Â* Also, I can't even change the name of any file on my data drive, d:, as it complains, "Unknown User"! What's that all about? I did a System Restore to eliminate this morning's update and now, all seems to be fine. Very weird. Of course, I haven't checked every single file, etc., but the ones I had problems with after the update, seem to be ok. Thanks for all the advise. |
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:56:27 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote: On 12/12/2018 10:38 AM, Art Todesco wrote: On 12/12/2018 10:27 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Art Todesco writes: I think it was the latest MS rollout today.* Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only.* And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only.* Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? AskWoody says "December 2018 Patch Tuesday is under way" and "MS-DEFCON 2: Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it." If you're pretty convinced it _is_ the update (I see three - a .net one, a system one, and the usual MSRT), have you tried a System Restore? No I haven't ... will do that next.* Also, I can't even change the name of any file on my data drive, d:, as it complains, "Unknown User"! What's that all about? I did a System Restore to eliminate this morning's update and now, all seems to be fine. Very weird. Of course, I haven't checked every single file, etc., but the ones I had problems with after the update, seem to be ok. Thanks for all the advise. It might have not been the update. Maybe the registry got corrupted by something else. Let's see if any more people are affected by the update. I's still do a scan with a booted AV though, just in case it was malware. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Help! Something made all folders/files read only
Art Todesco wrote:
On 12/12/2018 10:38 AM, Art Todesco wrote: On 12/12/2018 10:27 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Art Todesco writes: I think it was the latest MS rollout today. Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only. And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only. Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? AskWoody says "December 2018 Patch Tuesday is under way" and "MS-DEFCON 2: Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it." If you're pretty convinced it _is_ the update (I see three - a .net one, a system one, and the usual MSRT), have you tried a System Restore? No I haven't ... will do that next. Also, I can't even change the name of any file on my data drive, d:, as it complains, "Unknown User"! What's that all about? I did a System Restore to eliminate this morning's update and now, all seems to be fine. Very weird. Of course, I haven't checked every single file, etc., but the ones I had problems with after the update, seem to be ok. Thanks for all the advise. And that "test" helps eliminate a lot of things. There is actually an "attribute" for the partition, that can be set or cleared in DISKPART. https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...ead-only-help/ Read-only problems *hardly ever* relate to a direct security property. The odds of it being "just a tick box in the Security Tab" are pretty poor. These problems always seem to be the "obscure kind". The kind without a simple viewer, to check for. The permissions model in Windows is labyrinthine and I still don't have a tool I'd give you to make it easier to understand. Sysinternals "accessenum" is an example of an attempt to display effective access rights, but it's still a UI failure. The issue is so bad, they need to write an "expert assistant" program, rather than a simple "permission lister". You should be able to click on a file, and an "expert assistant" would tell you "you can't access this because of ACE or ACLS or the Security Properties tab has the control needed or some idiot applied a Deny to the entire disk or this is caused by a partition attribute setting". And the IT people who run Domains would be in "double the trouble" trying to figure out what's wrong. There are so many levels of security, some "explainer" sites will write 12 to 20 pages of "explainer" materials, then end with "there is this other subject I should include but it would make the explanation too long" :-/ That's when you know that understanding permissions, is a bottomless pit. Even if I had you run "icacls" and generate a log, that does *not* dump all the possible permissions. And if you ever look at one of these files, it's plenty complicated enough, even though it's only scratched the surface. icacls d:\ /save ntfsDdrive.txt /t /c DErr.txt 2&1 Stuff would scroll down the screen, without the redirections on the end. The "DErr.txt" has a list of errors when the tool hits Junction Points it's not allowed to descend. If you were completely denied access to a disk, then obviously the program cannot enumerate things it cannot read. This approach only "tells you half of what you need to know" for "only some of the easy problems". You can use "micenum" to display the overlay on the C: drive that provides additional protection for Program Files or System32 or the like. A problem came up where the Manditory Integrity on somebodies C: drive seemed to be wrong, but even with this, and trying to correct the problem, it still couldn't be corrected. You would not need this for the D: drive. https://www.elevenpaths.com/labstool...num/index.html It doesn't really take that much of a screwup to make stuff totally inaccessible. Paul |
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Help! Something made all folders/files read only
Art Todesco on Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:56:27 -0500
typed in alt.windows7.general the following: On 12/12/2018 10:38 AM, Art Todesco wrote: On 12/12/2018 10:27 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Art Todesco writes: I think it was the latest MS rollout today.* Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only.* And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only.* Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? AskWoody says "December 2018 Patch Tuesday is under way" and "MS-DEFCON 2: Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it." If you're pretty convinced it _is_ the update (I see three - a .net one, a system one, and the usual MSRT), have you tried a System Restore? No I haven't ... will do that next.* Also, I can't even change the name of any file on my data drive, d:, as it complains, "Unknown User"! What's that all about? I did a System Restore to eliminate this morning's update and now, all seems to be fine. Very weird. Of course, I haven't checked every single file, etc., but the ones I had problems with after the update, seem to be ok. Thanks for all the advise. Make a backup of every file you don't want to lose. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
Art Todesco on Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:56:27 -0500 typed in alt.windows7.general the following: On 12/12/2018 10:38 AM, Art Todesco wrote: On 12/12/2018 10:27 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Art Todesco writes: I think it was the latest MS rollout today. Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only. And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only. Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? AskWoody says "December 2018 Patch Tuesday is under way" and "MS-DEFCON 2: Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it." If you're pretty convinced it _is_ the update (I see three - a .net one, a system one, and the usual MSRT), have you tried a System Restore? No I haven't ... will do that next. Also, I can't even change the name of any file on my data drive, d:, as it complains, "Unknown User"! What's that all about? I did a System Restore to eliminate this morning's update and now, all seems to be fine. Very weird. Of course, I haven't checked every single file, etc., but the ones I had problems with after the update, seem to be ok. Thanks for all the advice. Make a backup of every file you don't want to lose. But I don't think that's practical for this case (nor would it help). He really either needs to use System Restore, or an image or clone backup, to resolve this kind of thing (that got screwed up by a windows update). Simply backing up individual files won't do it unless I've misread something here. |
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On 12/12/2018 6:36 PM, Bill in Co wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote: Art Todesco on Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:56:27 -0500 typed in alt.windows7.general the following: On 12/12/2018 10:38 AM, Art Todesco wrote: On 12/12/2018 10:27 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Art Todesco writes: I think it was the latest MS rollout today. Everything on my computer, both C: and D: have been made read only. And I can't seem to fix it. I've tried to change permissions and it just goes through and seems to change, however, the next time you access any folder or file, it goes back to read only. Any ideas on how to get back to normalcy? AskWoody says "December 2018 Patch Tuesday is under way" and "MS-DEFCON 2: Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it." If you're pretty convinced it _is_ the update (I see three - a .net one, a system one, and the usual MSRT), have you tried a System Restore? No I haven't ... will do that next. Also, I can't even change the name of any file on my data drive, d:, as it complains, "Unknown User"! What's that all about? I did a System Restore to eliminate this morning's update and now, all seems to be fine. Very weird. Of course, I haven't checked every single file, etc., but the ones I had problems with after the update, seem to be ok. Thanks for all the advice. Make a backup of every file you don't want to lose. But I don't think that's practical for this case (nor would it help). He really either needs to use System Restore, or an image or clone backup, to resolve this kind of thing (that got screwed up by a windows update). Simply backing up individual files won't do it unless I've misread something here. Now that I know that a system restore can fix the problem, I might try reinstalling the update. But I think I'll wait to see if others have problems. In the mean time, I'm ok the way I am. I may never install that update! |
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