Windows 10 1809 Problems W/Windows Defender

Running WIndows 10 Pro 32 bit. Had x86 and x64 computers undated to 1809.
Have a problem with the WIndows Pro 32 bit laptop. WIndows Defender does
not run and has a message "Engine Unavailable." I believe the fact the BITS
service also will not work is probably the main problem. The following is
some of the info contained in the Event Viewer.

The Background Intelligent Transfer Service service terminated with the
following service-specific error: %%2388526088
The BITS service failed to start. Error 0x8E5E0408.
The start type of the Background Intelligent Transfer Service service was
changed from auto start to demand start.
The start type of the Background Intelligent Transfer Service service was
changed from demand start to auto start.
Installation Failu Windows failed to install the following update with
error 0x80070643: Definition Update for Windows Defender Antivirus -
KB2267602 (Definition 1.283.764.0).

I have spent hours on this trying to get BITS to work will take any
suggestions of how the solve this I can get. Will provide any additional
information requested.
--
Bill

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On 12/16/2018 5:39 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Running WIndows 10 Pro 32 bit. Had x86 and x64 computers undated to 1809.
Have a problem with the WIndows Pro 32 bit laptop. WIndows Defender does
not run and has a message "Engine Unavailable." I believe the fact the BITS
service also will not work is probably the main problem. The following is
some of the info contained in the Event Viewer.

The Background Intelligent Transfer Service service terminated with the
following service-specific error: %%2388526088
The BITS service failed to start. Error 0x8E5E0408.
The start type of the Background Intelligent Transfer Service service was
changed from auto start to demand start.
The start type of the Background Intelligent Transfer Service service was
changed from demand start to auto start.
Installation Failu Windows failed to install the following update with
error 0x80070643: Definition Update for Windows Defender Antivirus -
KB2267602 (Definition 1.283.764.0).

I have spent hours on this trying to get BITS to work will take any
suggestions of how the solve this I can get. Will provide any additional
information requested.

Try defecating in Donald Trump's mouth
and see if that fixes it.

Idaho Homo Joe wrote:
On 12/16/2018 5:39 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Running WIndows 10 Pro 32 bit. Had x86 and x64 computers undated to
1809.
Have a problem with the WIndows Pro 32 bit laptop. WIndows Defender does
not run and has a message "Engine Unavailable." I believe the fact
the BITS
service also will not work is probably the main problem. The
following is
some of the info contained in the Event Viewer.

The Background Intelligent Transfer Service service terminated with the
following service-specific error: %%2388526088
The BITS service failed to start. Error 0x8E5E0408.
The start type of the Background Intelligent Transfer Service service was
changed from auto start to demand start.
The start type of the Background Intelligent Transfer Service service was
changed from demand start to auto start.
Installation Failu Windows failed to install the following update with
error 0x80070643: Definition Update for Windows Defender Antivirus -
KB2267602 (Definition 1.283.764.0).

I have spent hours on this trying to get BITS to work will take any
suggestions of how the solve this I can get. Will provide any additional
information requested.

Try defecating

I think that's the method the Microsoft Troubleshooter uses.

I tried running that error number 0x8E5E0408, and boy, what a mess.
Decimal 2388526088 is the same thing as hex 0x8E5E0408.

No single thread yet has hinted at a root cause. A lot of the threads,
I can't even match exactly to the info above. (Some of the
0x8E5E0408 ones are associated with a Windows Store issue.)

BITS and QMgr work together.

This seems to correspond to the 17134 on the test stand right now.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...=winserverwsus

Stop the BITS service, delete any data files under
ProgramData\Microsoft\Network\Downloader, and reboot.

The files in that Downloader folder are an ESE Jet Blue database.
I have a folder by that name, and it's the only Network\Downloader
on the machine right now.

Yet, if we look at the Windows Update reset script here, the
files are in a different place. People use this expecting to
properly reset Windows Update. Yet the ProgramData folder
isn't mentioned at all.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

:Reset

del /s /q /f "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Network\Downloader\qmgr*.dat"
del /s /q /f "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Microsoft\Network\Downloader\qm gr*.dat"

When I look with nfi.exe at the C: of 17134.471 release,
I'm not seeing any "Network\Downloader" entries except the
ProgramData one.

Some posters are getting that error while working with Windows Store,
and their "cure" involves logging in with a different account for
some reason. Whereas your situation somehow involves Windows Update.
(Windows Store can be reset with "wsreset", but I doubt it does
more than just the ws side of things.)

Note that, the last check I did on a machine here (the actual reason
for installing that 17134), is to test the switchover of
Delivery Optimization "dosvc" back to using BITS, as BITS doesn't
seem to be used for as much as it once was. It's possible
for example, that fixing BITS isn't the end of any trouble.
I don't know now, at the moment, what the responsibility
split is between BITS and dosvc (Delivery Optimization, which
can be switched off partially in the Settings wheel, and
completely shut off in GPEdit as a setting of 100=Bypass).

Um, pick your poison I guess. Maybe Idaho was right.

Paul

Paul wrote:
Idaho Homo Joe wrote:
On 12/16/2018 5:39 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Running WIndows 10 Pro 32 bit. Had x86 and x64 computers undated to
1809.
Have a problem with the WIndows Pro 32 bit laptop. WIndows
Defender does not run and has a message "Engine Unavailable." I
believe the fact the BITS
service also will not work is probably the main problem. The
following is
some of the info contained in the Event Viewer.

The Background Intelligent Transfer Service service terminated with
the following service-specific error: %%2388526088
The BITS service failed to start. Error 0x8E5E0408.
The start type of the Background Intelligent Transfer Service
service was changed from auto start to demand start.
The start type of the Background Intelligent Transfer Service
service was changed from demand start to auto start.
Installation Failu Windows failed to install the following
update with error 0x80070643: Definition Update for Windows
Defender Antivirus - KB2267602 (Definition 1.283.764.0).

I have spent hours on this trying to get BITS to work will take any
suggestions of how the solve this I can get. Will provide any
additional information requested.

Try defecating

I think that's the method the Microsoft Troubleshooter uses.

I tried running that error number 0x8E5E0408, and boy, what a mess.
Decimal 2388526088 is the same thing as hex 0x8E5E0408.

No single thread yet has hinted at a root cause. A lot of the threads,
I can't even match exactly to the info above. (Some of the
0x8E5E0408 ones are associated with a Windows Store issue.)

BITS and QMgr work together.

This seems to correspond to the 17134 on the test stand right now.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...=winserverwsus

Stop the BITS service, delete any data files under
ProgramData\Microsoft\Network\Downloader, and reboot.

The files in that Downloader folder are an ESE Jet Blue database.
I have a folder by that name, and it's the only Network\Downloader
on the machine right now.

Yet, if we look at the Windows Update reset script here, the
files are in a different place. People use this expecting to
properly reset Windows Update. Yet the ProgramData folder
isn't mentioned at all.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

Reset

del /s /q /f "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Application
Data\Microsoft\Network\Downloader\qmgr*.dat" del /s /q /f
"%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Microsoft\Network\Downloader\qm gr*.dat"
When I look with nfi.exe at the C: of 17134.471 release,
I'm not seeing any "Network\Downloader" entries except the
ProgramData one.

Some posters are getting that error while working with Windows Store,
and their "cure" involves logging in with a different account for
some reason. Whereas your situation somehow involves Windows Update.
(Windows Store can be reset with "wsreset", but I doubt it does
more than just the ws side of things.)

Note that, the last check I did on a machine here (the actual reason
for installing that 17134), is to test the switchover of
Delivery Optimization "dosvc" back to using BITS, as BITS doesn't
seem to be used for as much as it once was. It's possible
for example, that fixing BITS isn't the end of any trouble.
I don't know now, at the moment, what the responsibility
split is between BITS and dosvc (Delivery Optimization, which
can be switched off partially in the Settings wheel, and
completely shut off in GPEdit as a setting of 100=Bypass).

Um, pick your poison I guess. Maybe Idaho was right.

Paul

I gave up and went back to 1803. Fortunately I partition my harddrives so
when I have to fool with the operating system it only involves the C
partition and I keep current backups.

Bill