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Old November 1st 15, 08:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Maurice Helwig
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Default How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options

I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in
Windows 10" by Susan Bradley
Here is the latest update --

https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10?

tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email

Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October
29, 2015 called --
"Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10"

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/

In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and link --

If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows:

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade
options"
and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10

I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10 pushed
on us unwillingly.

--
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~~~~~~~~~~~~
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  #2  
Old November 1st 15, 10:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston[_2_]
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Default How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options

Maurice Helwig wrote:
I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in
Windows 10" by Susan Bradley
Here is the latest update --

https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10?


tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email


Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October
29, 2015 called --
"Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10"

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/


In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and link --

If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows:

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade
options"
and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10

I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10 pushed
on us unwillingly.

The petition you signed is about (1)returning user control to permit
local configurable options available in Win8.1 and earlier for MSFT
deployed updates and (2)the need for more detail and transparency on
what is included in each update and what system changes should be
noticeable from cumulative updates *****in Windows 10****
- i.e. applicable using Win10

The petition is not even remotely about upgrading to Win10 nor how to
prevent a Windows 10 upgrade from earlier qualifying o/s(7/8x).

Additionally the link you referenced is about the deployment,
classification and mechanism to upgrade to Windows 10 therefore
Myerson's comments is not a reply to the petition.
- i.e. applicable to upgrading from Win7Sp1/8.1 to Win10


Two different items. One after upgrading/using Win10...the other before


--
....winston
  #3  
Old November 1st 15, 01:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ed Cryer
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Posts: 2,621
Default How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options

....winston wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in
Windows 10" by Susan Bradley
Here is the latest update --

https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10?



tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email



Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October
29, 2015 called --
"Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10"

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/



In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and link --

If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows:

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade
options"
and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10

I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10 pushed
on us unwillingly.

The petition you signed is about (1)returning user control to permit
local configurable options available in Win8.1 and earlier for MSFT
deployed updates and (2)the need for more detail and transparency on
what is included in each update and what system changes should be
noticeable from cumulative updates *****in Windows 10****
- i.e. applicable using Win10

The petition is not even remotely about upgrading to Win10 nor how to
prevent a Windows 10 upgrade from earlier qualifying o/s(7/8x).

Additionally the link you referenced is about the deployment,
classification and mechanism to upgrade to Windows 10 therefore
Myerson's comments is not a reply to the petition.
- i.e. applicable to upgrading from Win7Sp1/8.1 to Win10


Two different items. One after upgrading/using Win10...the other before



I notice the sentences;
"If you are on a metered connection on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, then
you have the option of turning off automatic updates. We strongly
discourage this in today’s connected world because of the constant risk
of internet threats."

There's the crux. MS strongly discourage it, and they'll continue to do
so. They'll probably combat all hacks and workarounds they find. It's
their policy. And even if you were to cry "But give the more experienced
among us the option" they'd refuse to open the door.
I can see their point of view.

Ed

  #4  
Old November 1st 15, 02:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Stan Brown
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Default How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 17:38:13 +1000, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1


Github gives a simple batch file to create the key:

https://github.com/atw-skomatsu/disable-windows-os-
upgrade/blob/master/batch/disable-os-upgrade.bat

I suspect the batch file needs to be run in a command window with
administrative rights.

======

Woody Leonhard revealed that the KB 3083710 and 3083711 updates of 15
October actually change this key back to 0, disabling it and re-
allowing the PUP download of Windows 10! So if you apply those
updates, you'll have to set the value again:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/299...windows/check-
that-your-windows-10-upgrade-block-settings-are-still-in-force.html

======

Howtogeek seems to be saying that you must first install
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065988
to make that Registry hack effective.

http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-...s-7-or-8-from-
downloading-windows-10-automatically/?PageSpeed=noscript

Does anyone know whether that is true?

======

Woody L. recommends GWX Control Panel, formerly called GWX stopper:

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...wx-stopper-to-
permanently-remove.html

It's been mentioned in these groups before.

The latest version is dated 20 October 2015. This is not an installer
just a program that you download and can then when you need to remove
Windows-10-upgrade malware.

If you use this, please consider donating to the author (with whom I
have no connection). I provide a lot of free information on my Web
site, and many people write about it but very few donate, so I know
how disappointing it can be when few people express their
appreciation for something that takes a lot of work.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com/
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...
  #5  
Old November 1st 15, 03:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Stan Brown
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Posts: 2,904
Default How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 08:26:14 -0500, Stan Brown wrote:

Woody L. recommends GWX Control Panel, formerly called GWX stopper:

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...wx-stopper-to-
permanently-remove.html

It's been mentioned in these groups before.

The latest version is dated 20 October 2015. This is not an installer
just a program that you download and can then when you need to remove
Windows-10-upgrade malware.


I have just clicked the Donate button and donated $10.00. TYhough
I've so far managed to avoid Windows 10 on my Win 7 and 8.1 systems,
as Microsoft keeps ramping up its efforts to push this unwanted OS I
welcome having a simple utility that I can run periodically and make
sure I'm still safe.

How soon with Malwarebytes add GWX as a PUP, I wonder? Legally they'd
be safe, because they call malware _Potentially_ Unwanted Programs,
but still I doubt they'd do it because Microsoft is a 500-pound
gorilla.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com/
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...
  #6  
Old November 6th 15, 09:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston‫
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Posts: 1,128
Default How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options

Ed Cryer wrote:
...winston wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in
Windows 10" by Susan Bradley
Here is the latest update --

https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10?




tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email




Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October
29, 2015 called --
"Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10"

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/




In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and
link --

If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows:

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade
options"
and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10

I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10 pushed
on us unwillingly.

The petition you signed is about (1)returning user control to permit
local configurable options available in Win8.1 and earlier for MSFT
deployed updates and (2)the need for more detail and transparency on
what is included in each update and what system changes should be
noticeable from cumulative updates *****in Windows 10****
- i.e. applicable using Win10

The petition is not even remotely about upgrading to Win10 nor how to
prevent a Windows 10 upgrade from earlier qualifying o/s(7/8x).

Additionally the link you referenced is about the deployment,
classification and mechanism to upgrade to Windows 10 therefore
Myerson's comments is not a reply to the petition.
- i.e. applicable to upgrading from Win7Sp1/8.1 to Win10


Two different items. One after upgrading/using Win10...the other before



I notice the sentences;
"If you are on a metered connection on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, then
you have the option of turning off automatic updates. We strongly
discourage this in today’s connected world because of the constant risk
of internet threats."

There's the crux. MS strongly discourage it, and they'll continue to do
so. They'll probably combat all hacks and workarounds they find. It's
their policy. And even if you were to cry "But give the more experienced
among us the option" they'd refuse to open the door.
I can see their point of view.

Ed


You probably also noticed that sentence said 7 and 8.1 but not 10.
Why ?
- the same as before -- the petition covered after 10, the article
you referenced before.

Do you actually have a metered connection on 10 or just hypothesizing
that 10 is the same as 7/8.1 ?



--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps
  #7  
Old November 6th 15, 12:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ed Cryer
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Posts: 2,621
Default How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options

....winston‫ wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
...winston wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote:
I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in
Windows 10" by Susan Bradley
Here is the latest update --

https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10?





tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email





Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October
29, 2015 called --
"Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10"

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/





In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and
link --

If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows:

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade
options"
and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10

I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10
pushed
on us unwillingly.

The petition you signed is about (1)returning user control to permit
local configurable options available in Win8.1 and earlier for MSFT
deployed updates and (2)the need for more detail and transparency on
what is included in each update and what system changes should be
noticeable from cumulative updates *****in Windows 10****
- i.e. applicable using Win10

The petition is not even remotely about upgrading to Win10 nor how to
prevent a Windows 10 upgrade from earlier qualifying o/s(7/8x).

Additionally the link you referenced is about the deployment,
classification and mechanism to upgrade to Windows 10 therefore
Myerson's comments is not a reply to the petition.
- i.e. applicable to upgrading from Win7Sp1/8.1 to Win10


Two different items. One after upgrading/using Win10...the other before



I notice the sentences;
"If you are on a metered connection on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, then
you have the option of turning off automatic updates. We strongly
discourage this in today’s connected world because of the constant risk
of internet threats."

There's the crux. MS strongly discourage it, and they'll continue to do
so. They'll probably combat all hacks and workarounds they find. It's
their policy. And even if you were to cry "But give the more experienced
among us the option" they'd refuse to open the door.
I can see their point of view.

Ed


You probably also noticed that sentence said 7 and 8.1 but not 10.
Why ?
- the same as before -- the petition covered after 10, the article
you referenced before.

Do you actually have a metered connection on 10 or just hypothesizing
that 10 is the same as 7/8.1 ?




Not hypothesising at all.
Read on to
"Windows 10 will not automatically download updates on a metered
connection unless.........."

Ed
  #8  
Old November 9th 15, 07:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston‫
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Posts: 1,128
Default How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options

Stan Brown wrote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 17:38:13 +1000, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1


Github gives a simple batch file to create the key:

https://github.com/atw-skomatsu/disable-windows-os-
upgrade/blob/master/batch/disable-os-upgrade.bat

I suspect the batch file needs to be run in a command window with
administrative rights.

======

Woody Leonhard revealed that the KB 3083710 and 3083711 updates of 15
October actually change this key back to 0, disabling it and re-
allowing the PUP download of Windows 10! So if you apply those
updates, you'll have to set the value again:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/299...windows/check-
that-your-windows-10-upgrade-block-settings-are-still-in-force.html

======

Howtogeek seems to be saying that you must first install
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065988
to make that Registry hack effective.

http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-...s-7-or-8-from-
downloading-windows-10-automatically/?PageSpeed=noscript

Does anyone know whether that is true?



Hi, Stan.
Can't duplicate 308710/11(on Win7/8) resetting the disable o/s upgrade
registry value from 1 to 0 when previously configured to 1

With respect to the Howtogeek Article ?
- Looks like old, obsolete information recommending the July 2015
3065987/3065988 (7/8.1 respectively) Windows Update Client since
5987/5988 were replaced by 3075851/5853 WU Client in August; WU Client
3083324/3325 in Sept; which then are replaced in Oct. by WU Client
3083710/3711 - the last being the two Woody stated reset the reg value to 0.

I've tested every combination possible with the reg value set to one
before and after each and every Windows Update client released starting
with June (3050265/0267 replaced by 3065987/5988 in July) through
October without any impact on the value previously set to 1 changing to 0.

It's possible the infoworld article didn't comprehend the difference in
Home vs. Pro, creating the reg value from scratch or using Group Policy
before reporting the feedback or findings.

Since the howtogeek article is referring to a required KB obsoleted by
two subsequent updates before Oct 2015's alleged registry resetting WU
Client - then proving what might be true in July/Aug could be challenging.


--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps
 




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