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  #31  
Old December 1st 17, 02:05 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

In article ailer.nl,
Cornelis Tromp wrote:

macbooks are entirely ssd. not a single hd in the lineup.


Yep and most people in line at the Apple store are having
problems with those drives and TRIM not working or some other
stupid thing that should work, but doesn't.


nonsense. trim works perfectly fine.

Then there is the magical backup where data goes into the iCloud
and simply disappears, never to be found again.


more nonsense.
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  #32  
Old December 1st 17, 03:17 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:10:27 -0800, Alan Baker
wrote:

On 2017-11-30 3:08 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:49:59 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 18:38:52 +0000, RJH wrote:

On 30/11/2017 13:28, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:48:18 +0000 (GMT), Nathan Hale
wrote:

In article
Doomsdrzej wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 19:55:23 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
wrote:

https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/28/how-t...root-password/

Lol!

The Mac is a ****ing joke. That's not even brute force hacking; that's
temper tantrum hacking. Anyone defending the platform is an idiot.

Mac IS the platform for idiots. That's exactly the market Jobs
designed it for.

Even during the 1980s, you had to be a complete moron to buy a
computer which couldn't be upgraded, had a tiny monochrome screen,
couldn't multitask and cost a fortune when the competition sold the
same kind of machine with more RAM, colour, a larger screen and
limited upgradeability (Apple vs. Atari). I really feel sorry for Mac
users and hope that they'll find a cure for their mental illness soon.

You're too kind :-)

I bought an iMac to get stuff done when my time was money - something
that was becoming increasingly difficult on Windows machines. Also, at
the time (2008), iMac's were one of the few near-silent reasonably
powerful PCs available for something approaching reasonable money.

While I do have Windows PCs they rarely get used - rarely see the need.

The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing. I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.

And being an arse, who'd rather be an arse rather than be helpful,
you've not bothered to go onto ebay and get a 2011/2012 Mini with one
drive, and then take it to your friendly local Mac shop and ask them to
add an SSD as the primary drive in the empty drive mount.


I pointed out in the post that you're quoting that it isn't up to my
parents to remedy a problem that Apple created. They asked my parents
to pay top dollar for Mac Mini and then offered performance that was a
fraction of what Windows offered on the same hardware. No sane person
would ask them to shell out even more money (even though they did on
RAM which was promised to speed things up and did no such thing) to
remedy Apple's idiotic decision to use an HD in the era of SSDs.


Blah, blah, blah.

It's all bull**** until you give us some specifics.


Specifics of WHAT, pray tell? Boot time is slow, applications opening
is slow, applications closing is slow, navigating through the file
system is slow. _EVERYTHING_ is slow.

It's a slow operating system with a slow filesystem which caters to
slow people.
  #33  
Old December 1st 17, 03:18 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


It's all bull**** until you give us some specifics.


Specifics of WHAT, pray tell? Boot time is slow, applications opening
is slow, applications closing is slow, navigating through the file
system is slow. _EVERYTHING_ is slow.


then something is *wrong*. that is definitely *not* normal.

It's a slow operating system with a slow filesystem which caters to
slow people.


nonsense.
  #34  
Old December 1st 17, 03:18 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 23:16:12 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:02:06 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing.

either it's misconfigured or you're lying.


Yeah, because adding RAM to a Mac Mini is soooooo complicated.

I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.

it wasn't apple's decision. *she* chose the configuration.


A Mac Mini purchased from Best Buy doesn't offer a "choice," you ****.
Not everyone believes in going to the Apple site to replace a Mac Mini
that just died. They wanted one NOW and that's what they got.


That's their lookout then and I have no sympathy. Anyone with two brain
cells to rub together would have gone to the Apple Store. Personally
I've never heard of Best Buy.


Yeah, I'm sure the Apple Store version of the same machine with the
same hardware and the same configuration would have performed a lot
better.

You must be a liberal.
  #35  
Old December 1st 17, 03:23 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:16:24 -0800, Alan Baker
wrote:

On 2017-11-30 3:11 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:02:06 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing.

either it's misconfigured or you're lying.


Yeah, because adding RAM to a Mac Mini is soooooo complicated.

I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.

it wasn't apple's decision. *she* chose the configuration.


A Mac Mini purchased from Best Buy doesn't offer a "choice," you ****.
Not everyone believes in going to the Apple site to replace a Mac Mini
that just died. They wanted one NOW and that's what they got. The fact
that Apple uses an HD in a default configuration and still charges top
dollar is a testament to what kind of thieves run that social justice
clown company.


"Thieves"? They forced your parents to buy, did they?

What a pity their allegedly-knowledgeable child wasn't there to set them
straight...


They only have a Mac because I felt that the operating system would be
easier for them to learn. After all, it's more "intuitive." Meanwhile,
anything that was intuitive in their operating system has since been
removed from it and it's no easier than using a Windows machine. If
anything, Windows is the easier one of the two if people stick to
Universal Windows apps.

They DID however get used to the operating system after the first Mac
Mini and I'm not one to try to teach old dogs new tricks. Despite the
fact that Apple hardware is a joke and the company can't seem to
innovate anything anymore ever since that cocksucking social justice
clown took over, I helped them to buy a replacement machine.

Still, tell me why I should spend $3k on a machine which boasts an
Intel HD video card when I can get a better-looking games machine for
less than half of that.
  #36  
Old December 1st 17, 03:31 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 18:25:57 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing.

either it's misconfigured or you're lying.


Yeah, because adding RAM to a Mac Mini is soooooo complicated.


8 gig memory is plenty for most people, certainly for parents who
aren't likely to be doing much more than web surfing and email.

you were also talking about hd versus ssd speeds, not memory.

since you're trying to move the goalposts, it's clear that you're lying.


Idiot. In a previous conversation with other zealots such as yourself,
I mentioned the fact that my parents' Mac Mini had a default
configuration with an HD. They all claimed that despite the standard
configuration, the operating system ran slow not because of the HD but
because of the RAM. *I* was the one who said that the HD was likely
the culprit, especially running at 5,400RPM. However, lying zealots
like yourself were the ones who suggested the RAM.

4GB later? The performance hasn't changed even slightly. My Core i3
laptop from 2010 with Windows 7 and 8GB ran better than their 2013 or
so Mac Min Core i5i with OS X and 8GB RAM. Your beloved company is
_that_ incompetent at creating a decent product. The _only_ thing
Apple is capable of doing is taking a load of ****, putting it in a
nice-enough package and sticking their stupid logo on it.

I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.

it wasn't apple's decision. *she* chose the configuration.


A Mac Mini purchased from Best Buy doesn't offer a "choice," you ****.


yes it does. best buy and other resellers sell every configuration.


Not free of charge. The slightest change in configuration costs money
and not just for the parts. If you don't want to pay for warrantied
installation (because I could install it myself but lose the
warranty), you have to pay. Only with the Apple Store do you get
treated better.

Not everyone believes in going to the Apple site to replace a Mac Mini
that just died. They wanted one NOW and that's what they got. The fact
that Apple uses an HD in a default configuration and still charges top
dollar is a testament to what kind of thieves run that social justice
clown company.


it's not apple's fault if best buy was out of stock of the other
configurations.


Yes, let's blame my parents for not paying more and expecting the
standard, default overpriced machine to run adequately. That's the
solution with Apple apparently, spend more money. If you spent $700 on
a new machine, you're crazy for expecting it to run properly. You
clearly should have paid $800, you twit.

they could have gone to another store or ordered online with next day
delivery.


Yes, they ordered the wrong thing. Had they ordered the _other_ Apple,
it would run better than the one they chose. Of course, if they had
chosen THAT _Apple_, it would be their own fault for not choosing THIS
one. You people are such clowns that I truly don't think you even
consider how stupid what you're saying is.

imacs and mac minis offer a choice of hd, hybrid or ssd.

macbooks are entirely ssd. not a single hd in the lineup.


And I'd wager that they're STILL slower than the same machine running
Windows or Linux because optimizing code or making it secure doesn't
sell as many overpriced Macs.


you'd lose.


Bring it on then.
  #37  
Old December 1st 17, 03:34 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:25:43 +1300, Your Name
wrote:

On 2017-11-30 23:11:17 +0000, Doomsdrzej said:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:02:06 -0500, nospam
wrote:
In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing.

either it's misconfigured or you're lying.


Yeah, because adding RAM to a Mac Mini is soooooo complicated.


The newer ones are more difficult than the older ones due to Apple no
longer having the bottom plastic cap easily removeable.


This model DOES have the plastic, removeable cap.

I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.

it wasn't apple's decision. *she* chose the configuration.


A Mac Mini purchased from Best Buy doesn't offer a "choice," you ****.


Everywhere that sells Macs can order a build-to-order model for a
customer ... but few bother to advertise that fact nor say what the
possible options are.

On the other hand, most people buying a brand new car will always ask
for the "options list".


My parents' machine died at the beginning of the day on Thursday and
they wanted me to come over and help them buy a replacement on the
evening of the same Thursday. They're retired and have nothing better
to do than browse and go on Facebook. They can't be bothered to wait.
Heaven help them for believing that a brand new, mass-manufactured
machine made by Apple would run suitably in its default configuration!
After all, they _only_ spent $750 or whatever plus tax and everyone
knows not to expect a decent computer for that price oin 2017!
  #38  
Old December 1st 17, 03:35 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 00:56:36 +0000 (GMT), Cornelis Tromp
wrote:

In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing.


either it's misconfigured or you're lying.

I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.


it wasn't apple's decision. *she* chose the configuration.

imacs and mac minis offer a choice of hd, hybrid or ssd.

macbooks are entirely ssd. not a single hd in the lineup.


Yep and most people in line at the Apple store are having
problems with those drives and TRIM not working or some other
stupid thing that should work, but doesn't.

Then there is the magical backup where data goes into the iCloud
and simply disappears, never to be found again.


Wow, they can't even get their cloud right. Meanwhile, OneDrive is
spectacular and gives you tons of storage for $3 a month and way more
than you need + the latest version of Office for a _very_ reasonable
price.

But it won't have the Apple logo on it so it's clearly worthless!
  #39  
Old December 1st 17, 03:36 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:05:37 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article ailer.nl,
Cornelis Tromp wrote:

macbooks are entirely ssd. not a single hd in the lineup.


Yep and most people in line at the Apple store are having
problems with those drives and TRIM not working or some other
stupid thing that should work, but doesn't.


nonsense. trim works perfectly fine.


Doubtful if the people implementing the feature are social justice
clowns like what Apple seems to exclusively employ.

Then there is the magical backup where data goes into the iCloud
and simply disappears, never to be found again.


more nonsense.


Doubtful.
  #40  
Old December 1st 17, 03:38 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:36:46 +1300, Your Name
wrote:

On 2017-11-30 21:40:14 +0000, Doomsdrzej said:

The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing.

snip

It's not "sluggish" ... you're simply impatient.


God forbid I would expect a recent configuration to run at speeds
which indicate that some progress was made since the days of the 286!

I bought one earlier
this year to replace a dead 18-year-old PowerMac G3, and the Mac mini
is much faster than that was.


I'm sure that owners of the Hyundai Accent were also very impressed
when their motor went from 90HP to 95HP.

It used to take a few minutes to produce
a PDF from Adobe InDesign on the G3, but it is a lot quicker on the Mac
mini. :-)

Having said that, the Mac mini has not really been updated since late
2014, so it is a bit behind the likes of the more recently updated
iMac, Apple's laptops, and many Windoze boxes.


But the company is still happy to charge you top dollar for it.
  #41  
Old December 1st 17, 03:44 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On 2017-11-30 4:56 PM, Cornelis Tromp wrote:
In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing.


either it's misconfigured or you're lying.

I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.


it wasn't apple's decision. *she* chose the configuration.

imacs and mac minis offer a choice of hd, hybrid or ssd.

macbooks are entirely ssd. not a single hd in the lineup.


Yep and most people in line at the Apple store are having
problems with those drives and TRIM not working or some other
stupid thing that should work, but doesn't.


Bull****.


Then there is the magical backup where data goes into the iCloud
and simply disappears, never to be found again.


And more bull****!
  #42  
Old December 1st 17, 03:44 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing.

either it's misconfigured or you're lying.

Yeah, because adding RAM to a Mac Mini is soooooo complicated.


8 gig memory is plenty for most people, certainly for parents who
aren't likely to be doing much more than web surfing and email.

you were also talking about hd versus ssd speeds, not memory.

since you're trying to move the goalposts, it's clear that you're lying.


Idiot. In a previous conversation with other zealots such as yourself,


insults means you have nothing.

I mentioned the fact that my parents' Mac Mini had a default
configuration with an HD.


there are other configurations, including ssd and hybrid ssd/hd.

don't blame apple because your parents chose the hd configuration.

They all claimed that despite the standard
configuration, the operating system ran slow not because of the HD but
because of the RAM. *I* was the one who said that the HD was likely
the culprit, especially running at 5,400RPM. However, lying zealots
like yourself were the ones who suggested the RAM.


i never suggested any reason for the alleged slowness, which makes
*you* the liar.

4GB later? The performance hasn't changed even slightly. My Core i3
laptop from 2010 with Windows 7 and 8GB ran better than their 2013 or
so Mac Min Core i5i with OS X and 8GB RAM.


bull****.

Your beloved company is
_that_ incompetent at creating a decent product. The _only_ thing
Apple is capable of doing is taking a load of ****, putting it in a
nice-enough package and sticking their stupid logo on it.


loads of **** don't sell in the quantities apple is selling, which
means your claim is bull****.


I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.

it wasn't apple's decision. *she* chose the configuration.

A Mac Mini purchased from Best Buy doesn't offer a "choice," you ****.


yes it does. best buy and other resellers sell every configuration.


Not free of charge.


of course not.

each configuration has a price, same as with any other company.

The slightest change in configuration costs money
and not just for the parts.


yep, the same with any company's product.

higher specs cost more.

a top of the line dell costs more than the entry level model.

If you don't want to pay for warrantied
installation (because I could install it myself but lose the
warranty), you have to pay.


installing memory does not void the apple warranty.

Only with the Apple Store do you get
treated better.


were you really expecting top notch service from best buy?

the salespeople at best buy are complete morons, who will say anything
to make a sale so they get their commission.

Not everyone believes in going to the Apple site to replace a Mac Mini
that just died. They wanted one NOW and that's what they got. The fact
that Apple uses an HD in a default configuration and still charges top
dollar is a testament to what kind of thieves run that social justice
clown company.


it's not apple's fault if best buy was out of stock of the other
configurations.


Yes, let's blame my parents for not paying more and expecting the
standard, default overpriced machine to run adequately. That's the
solution with Apple apparently, spend more money. If you spent $700 on
a new machine, you're crazy for expecting it to run properly. You
clearly should have paid $800, you twit.


it runs perfectly fine.

they could have gone to another store or ordered online with next day
delivery.


Yes, they ordered the wrong thing.


yep. they did.

Had they ordered the _other_ Apple,
it would run better than the one they chose. Of course, if they had
chosen THAT _Apple_, it would be their own fault for not choosing THIS
one. You people are such clowns that I truly don't think you even
consider how stupid what you're saying is.


a perfect description of you.
  #43  
Old December 1st 17, 03:44 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

FWIW, I can replace this quad core PC with 4GB and 500GB disk
off eBay for $100. Got a spare ready in the corner if I ever
need it. What's a replacement Mac cost?


Riiiiiight. Let's see this $100 PC you could buy.


https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Custom-Built...AOSwZqZaEI5 T


that is not a final price.

that listing has a week to go and ti will sell for much more than $100.
  #44  
Old December 1st 17, 03:45 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2017-11-30 6:17 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:10:27 -0800, Alan Baker
wrote:

On 2017-11-30 3:08 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:49:59 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 18:38:52 +0000, RJH wrote:

On 30/11/2017 13:28, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:48:18 +0000 (GMT), Nathan Hale
wrote:

In article
Doomsdrzej wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 19:55:23 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
wrote:

https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/28/how-t...root-password/

Lol!

The Mac is a ****ing joke. That's not even brute force hacking; that's
temper tantrum hacking. Anyone defending the platform is an idiot.

Mac IS the platform for idiots. That's exactly the market Jobs
designed it for.

Even during the 1980s, you had to be a complete moron to buy a
computer which couldn't be upgraded, had a tiny monochrome screen,
couldn't multitask and cost a fortune when the competition sold the
same kind of machine with more RAM, colour, a larger screen and
limited upgradeability (Apple vs. Atari). I really feel sorry for Mac
users and hope that they'll find a cure for their mental illness soon.

You're too kind :-)

I bought an iMac to get stuff done when my time was money - something
that was becoming increasingly difficult on Windows machines. Also, at
the time (2008), iMac's were one of the few near-silent reasonably
powerful PCs available for something approaching reasonable money.

While I do have Windows PCs they rarely get used - rarely see the need.

The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing. I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.

And being an arse, who'd rather be an arse rather than be helpful,
you've not bothered to go onto ebay and get a 2011/2012 Mini with one
drive, and then take it to your friendly local Mac shop and ask them to
add an SSD as the primary drive in the empty drive mount.

I pointed out in the post that you're quoting that it isn't up to my
parents to remedy a problem that Apple created. They asked my parents
to pay top dollar for Mac Mini and then offered performance that was a
fraction of what Windows offered on the same hardware. No sane person
would ask them to shell out even more money (even though they did on
RAM which was promised to speed things up and did no such thing) to
remedy Apple's idiotic decision to use an HD in the era of SSDs.


Blah, blah, blah.

It's all bull**** until you give us some specifics.


Specifics of WHAT, pray tell? Boot time is slow, applications opening
is slow, applications closing is slow, navigating through the file
system is slow. _EVERYTHING_ is slow.


Which Mac Mini exactly?


It's a slow operating system with a slow filesystem which caters to
slow people.


What a pity you have nothing to support any of that.
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Old December 1st 17, 03:46 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Alan Baker
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On 2017-11-30 6:23 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:16:24 -0800, Alan Baker
wrote:

On 2017-11-30 3:11 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:02:06 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing.

either it's misconfigured or you're lying.

Yeah, because adding RAM to a Mac Mini is soooooo complicated.

I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.

it wasn't apple's decision. *she* chose the configuration.

A Mac Mini purchased from Best Buy doesn't offer a "choice," you ****.
Not everyone believes in going to the Apple site to replace a Mac Mini
that just died. They wanted one NOW and that's what they got. The fact
that Apple uses an HD in a default configuration and still charges top
dollar is a testament to what kind of thieves run that social justice
clown company.


"Thieves"? They forced your parents to buy, did they?

What a pity their allegedly-knowledgeable child wasn't there to set them
straight...


They only have a Mac because I felt that the operating system would be
easier for them to learn. After all, it's more "intuitive." Meanwhile,
anything that was intuitive in their operating system has since been
removed from it and it's no easier than using a Windows machine. If
anything, Windows is the easier one of the two if people stick to
Universal Windows apps.


And WHEN are you claiming you recommended Macs for them?


They DID however get used to the operating system after the first Mac
Mini and I'm not one to try to teach old dogs new tricks. Despite the
fact that Apple hardware is a joke and the company can't seem to
innovate anything anymore ever since that cocksucking social justice
clown took over, I helped them to buy a replacement machine.

Still, tell me why I should spend $3k on a machine which boasts an
Intel HD video card when I can get a better-looking games machine for
less than half of that.


Concrete examples, please...


 




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