Windows Messenger

Can Windows Messenger be downloaded on a Windows ME PC? Everything I've seen always refers to WinXP.

TIA

Greetings Connie,

No, Windows Messenger 4.7 is restricted to Windows XP and Windows Messenger 5.0 is restricted
to XP and Windows 2000.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Can Windows Messenger be downloaded on a Windows ME PC? Everything I've seen always refers
to WinXP.

TIA

Thanks for your reply, Jonathan. So is there a way that I can connect to my brother's PC (he's the one that has Win ME - I have Win XP). He has MSN Messenger, but if I understand it correctly that isn't capable of Remote Assistance, whiteboard, etc. Any
suggestions?

again TIA
Connie

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

Greetings Connie,

No, Windows Messenger 4.7 is restricted to Windows XP and Windows Messenger 5.0 is restricted
to XP and Windows 2000.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Can Windows Messenger be downloaded on a Windows ME PC? Everything I've seen always refers
to WinXP.

TIA

Hi Connie,

MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger are compatible (at least the basic features are), but
Remote Assistance is an exclusive XP feature and Whiteboard/App Sharing is available only in
XP and Windows 2000 Service Pack 4.

Regardless, what you can do is have them click the Actions menu within MSN Messenger, then
"Start Netmeeting" (you won't see this on your Windows Messenger client by default), and then
after you've both accepted and engaged Netmeeting, you can use the Application Sharing
feature within there to see either others desktops (assuming that's what you're trying to
do).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply, Jonathan. So is there a way that I can connect to my brother's PC
(he's the one that has Win ME - I have Win XP). He has MSN Messenger, but if I understand
it correctly that isn't capable of Remote Assistance, whiteboard, etc. Any suggestions?

again TIA
Connie

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

Greetings Connie,

No, Windows Messenger 4.7 is restricted to Windows XP and Windows Messenger 5.0 is
restricted
to XP and Windows 2000.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Can Windows Messenger be downloaded on a Windows ME PC? Everything I've seen always
refers
to WinXP.

TIA

Hi Jonathan,

Do I need to install NetMeeting on my PC for this to work, or will I still be using Windows Messenger?

Also, if you don't mind me asking another question ..... I have another brother that is using Windows XP, Windows Messenger (4.7 - same as mine) & he has Norton Personal Firewall. I've tried to send him a file but he's not able to get it stating that it's
being blocked. I downloaded (from Symantec website) steps to allow file transfers from MSN Messenger / Windows Messenger by allowing access for both the Windows Messenger TCP Inbound & the TCP Outbound to Port 1900. (however, his showed MSN Messenger no
t Windows Messenger TCP Inbound & TCP Outbound). But this still didn't work. Any suggestions?? Should I have him just disable Nortons & have him run Win XP ICF during these sessions?? Would that be easier because of compatibility?

Thanks so much for all your help, Jonathan, ..... you are just a wealth of infomation!!

Connie

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

Hi Connie,

MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger are compatible (at least the basic features are), but
Remote Assistance is an exclusive XP feature and Whiteboard/App Sharing is available only in
XP and Windows 2000 Service Pack 4.

Regardless, what you can do is have them click the Actions menu within MSN Messenger, then
"Start Netmeeting" (you won't see this on your Windows Messenger client by default), and then
after you've both accepted and engaged Netmeeting, you can use the Application Sharing
feature within there to see either others desktops (assuming that's what you're trying to
do).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply, Jonathan. So is there a way that I can connect to my brother's PC
(he's the one that has Win ME - I have Win XP). He has MSN Messenger, but if I understand
it correctly that isn't capable of Remote Assistance, whiteboard, etc. Any suggestions?

again TIA
Connie

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

Greetings Connie,

No, Windows Messenger 4.7 is restricted to Windows XP and Windows Messenger 5.0 is
restricted
to XP and Windows 2000.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Can Windows Messenger be downloaded on a Windows ME PC? Everything I've seen always
refers
to WinXP.

TIA

Hi Connie,

Netmeeting comes with Windows XP, all you have to do is accept the request.

Actually when you send a file through Windows Messenger 4.7, your contact has to connect to
you. As such, he's making an outgoing connection to you and more than likely what's
occurring is you have the Internet Connection Firewall on yourself (which does *not*
automatically open the necessary ports for file transfer currently). Also, for reference
purposes, the ports used are 6891-6900 TCP for Windows Messenger file transfers (not 1900,
1900 is for SSDP discovery; something you don't need to worry about).

However, in order to set up the Norton Firewall properly, Messenger should just be set up to
"Allow All" internet traffic through it. You can do this through the "Allowed Programs"
within Norton (I don't have the NPF here are the moment to be more specific).

However, on your side, assuming you do have the ICF on, you will need to configure it to
allow you to send file transfers. To do so, click Start, then All Programs, then
Accessories, then Communications, then Network Connections. Right-click your connection,
then click Properties. For cable modem/broadband users, your Internet connection will usually
be called Local Area Connection. For dialup, it should be the name of your Internet Service
Provider. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click the Settings tab. Click the Add button and
then in the Service Settings, type in the following -- for Description enter Messenger
Connection, for Name or IP address enter 127.0.0.1, for both External and Internal ports
enter 6891. Verify TCP is selected and click OK. Now repeat the last step but change the
ports to 6892, 6893, 6894, 6895, 6896, 6897, 6898, 6899, 6900. Yes, 10 (including the first
one) will now be selected. Then click OK. You should now be able to send files with the
firewall enabled.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Hi Jonathan,

Do I need to install NetMeeting on my PC for this to work, or will I still be using Windows
Messenger?

Also, if you don't mind me asking another question ..... I have another brother that is
using Windows XP, Windows Messenger (4.7 - same as mine) & he has Norton Personal Firewall.
I've tried to send him a file but he's not able to get it stating that it's being blocked.
I downloaded (from Symantec website) steps to allow file transfers from MSN Messenger /
Windows Messenger by allowing access for both the Windows Messenger TCP Inbound & the TCP
Outbound to Port 1900. (however, his showed MSN Messenger not Windows Messenger TCP
Inbound & TCP Outbound). But this still didn't work. Any suggestions?? Should I have him
just disable Nortons & have him run Win XP ICF during these sessions?? Would that be easier
because of compatibility?

Thanks so much for all your help, Jonathan, ..... you are just a wealth of infomation!!

Connie

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

Hi Connie,

MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger are compatible (at least the basic features are), but
Remote Assistance is an exclusive XP feature and Whiteboard/App Sharing is available only
in
XP and Windows 2000 Service Pack 4.

Regardless, what you can do is have them click the Actions menu within MSN Messenger, then
"Start Netmeeting" (you won't see this on your Windows Messenger client by default), and
then
after you've both accepted and engaged Netmeeting, you can use the Application Sharing
feature within there to see either others desktops (assuming that's what you're trying to
do).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply, Jonathan. So is there a way that I can connect to my brother's
PC
(he's the one that has Win ME - I have Win XP). He has MSN Messenger, but if I
understand
it correctly that isn't capable of Remote Assistance, whiteboard, etc. Any suggestions?

again TIA
Connie

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

Greetings Connie,

No, Windows Messenger 4.7 is restricted to Windows XP and Windows Messenger 5.0 is
restricted
to XP and Windows 2000.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Can Windows Messenger be downloaded on a Windows ME PC? Everything I've seen always
refers
to WinXP.

TIA

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks so much for all the info! No I'm not using ICF on my PC, I have CA EZ Firewall. I never gave it a thought that I'd need to adjust mine to just send, but now will do so. I thought it was odd that the Norton's website suggested opening port 1900 wh
en everything I found regarding Win Mess referred to the ports you mentioned. But not knowing what I'm doing I went with what they said.

Thanks again for all the explanations. I feel I have a little better understanding of it all.

Have a great day!
Connie

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

Hi Connie,

Netmeeting comes with Windows XP, all you have to do is accept the request.

Actually when you send a file through Windows Messenger 4.7, your contact has to connect to
you. As such, he's making an outgoing connection to you and more than likely what's
occurring is you have the Internet Connection Firewall on yourself (which does *not*
automatically open the necessary ports for file transfer currently). Also, for reference
purposes, the ports used are 6891-6900 TCP for Windows Messenger file transfers (not 1900,
1900 is for SSDP discovery; something you don't need to worry about).

However, in order to set up the Norton Firewall properly, Messenger should just be set up to
"Allow All" internet traffic through it. You can do this through the "Allowed Programs"
within Norton (I don't have the NPF here are the moment to be more specific).

However, on your side, assuming you do have the ICF on, you will need to configure it to
allow you to send file transfers. To do so, click Start, then All Programs, then
Accessories, then Communications, then Network Connections. Right-click your connection,
then click Properties. For cable modem/broadband users, your Internet connection will usually
be called Local Area Connection. For dialup, it should be the name of your Internet Service
Provider. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click the Settings tab. Click the Add button and
then in the Service Settings, type in the following -- for Description enter Messenger
Connection, for Name or IP address enter 127.0.0.1, for both External and Internal ports
enter 6891. Verify TCP is selected and click OK. Now repeat the last step but change the
ports to 6892, 6893, 6894, 6895, 6896, 6897, 6898, 6899, 6900. Yes, 10 (including the first
one) will now be selected. Then click OK. You should now be able to send files with the
firewall enabled.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Hi Jonathan,

Do I need to install NetMeeting on my PC for this to work, or will I still be using Windows
Messenger?

Also, if you don't mind me asking another question ..... I have another brother that is
using Windows XP, Windows Messenger (4.7 - same as mine) & he has Norton Personal Firewall.
I've tried to send him a file but he's not able to get it stating that it's being blocked.
I downloaded (from Symantec website) steps to allow file transfers from MSN Messenger /
Windows Messenger by allowing access for both the Windows Messenger TCP Inbound & the TCP
Outbound to Port 1900. (however, his showed MSN Messenger not Windows Messenger TCP
Inbound & TCP Outbound). But this still didn't work. Any suggestions?? Should I have him
just disable Nortons & have him run Win XP ICF during these sessions?? Would that be easier
because of compatibility?

Thanks so much for all your help, Jonathan, ..... you are just a wealth of infomation!!

Connie

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

Hi Connie,

MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger are compatible (at least the basic features are), but
Remote Assistance is an exclusive XP feature and Whiteboard/App Sharing is available only
in
XP and Windows 2000 Service Pack 4.

Regardless, what you can do is have them click the Actions menu within MSN Messenger, then
"Start Netmeeting" (you won't see this on your Windows Messenger client by default), and
then
after you've both accepted and engaged Netmeeting, you can use the Application Sharing
feature within there to see either others desktops (assuming that's what you're trying to
do).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply, Jonathan. So is there a way that I can connect to my brother's
PC
(he's the one that has Win ME - I have Win XP). He has MSN Messenger, but if I
understand
it correctly that isn't capable of Remote Assistance, whiteboard, etc. Any suggestions?

again TIA
Connie

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

Greetings Connie,

No, Windows Messenger 4.7 is restricted to Windows XP and Windows Messenger 5.0 is
restricted
to XP and Windows 2000.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Connie" wrote in message
...
Can Windows Messenger be downloaded on a Windows ME PC? Everything I've seen always
refers
to WinXP.

TIA