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Hi All,
Anyone have a favorite long lived Internal 5-1/4" DVD writer? I cut about four disks a week on this computer and it has to be absolutely reliable. And not break in a year too. Many thanks, -T |
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Hi All, Anyone have a favorite long lived Internal 5-1/4" DVD writer? I cut about four disks a week on this computer and it has to be absolutely reliable. And not break in a year too. Many thanks, -T You do realize new models are released at random, and if there was such a thing as a "good" model, it's long forgotten. They're $20 a piece, and are like a roulette wheel in terms of what you get. You take your chances. The ones I've received were OK. I've had more troubles in the past with optical drives, than in the last three years. Check the customer reviews on Newegg, and see what they say. The mechanisms, I've seen a claim that the "engines" all come from the same plant. The controller board with a MediaTek chipset on it, that may be designed by the manufacturer. They need firmware. Products rushed to market don't have a complete set of media tags. And that's the reason you update the firmware before burning any test media. If a drive says "24X" in the advert, there is no 24X media to test with. If you're lucky, maybe you can find some 16X media. As a result of that, I don't know if the DVD burner industry has any more "innovations" to sell us. What's the point of "going faster" if there is no media for it ? And the ones I see for sale, are no faster. I have a 24X bought some time ago. And they're still at the 24X level. This one throws in MDISC burning as its new feature. Those are the "rock discs" for archival storage. My last two drives were LG. The Asus ones seem to be a bit different on noise. The LG isn't "quiet" but only an Asus sounds like an Asus. My Asus ones sit in the next room. LG http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA4M54185692 Asus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 "Cons: -the thing sounded like a jet engine at full rpm" But don't they all ? Actually, there are differences in the noise. An Asus might be like "white noise" or "whoosh". The ones I've got are more of a "whine" (a tone). Since the innovation has stopped, maybe the firmware will be mature when you buy one now. Most drives are "OEM". A drive mechanism in a plastic bag. No screws. No cables. Nothing. The "Retail" drives come in a cardboard box. The reason you buy them, is for the software CD. To find out what software is on the CD, you have to drive to the store and read the side of the box!!! I've had trouble in the past, finding *any* online info with a precise list. I used to get drives with a copy of Nero in the box. The copy of Nero only works with that drive, so it's a "branded" copy of a sort-of Nero Lite. Since we've got Imgburn now, Nero is no longer needed. I think I may have received a DVD movie player software of some sort too. So for double the price of a regular drive, you get a grab-bag of software. A good deal, maybe, if it's something you actually want. Unless your purchase is somehow a mechanical disaster (faceplate doesn't fit tray hole), you'll probably be happy with any of them ($20 ones). Paul |
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writes: T wrote: Hi All, Anyone have a favorite long lived Internal 5-1/4" DVD writer? I cut about four disks a week on this computer and it has to be absolutely reliable. And not break in a year too. [] If a drive says "24X" in the advert, there is no 24X media to test with. If you're lucky, maybe you can find some 16X media. As a result of that, I don't know if the DVD burner industry has any more "innovations" to sell us. What's the point of "going faster" if there is no media for it ? I don't know about DVD media, but for CD media, I tend not to burn at the maximum speed the drive and/or media claim to be capable of anyway: I have a feeling that the recording is more reliable if the recording isn't done at the limit, and for the cost of waiting an extra couple of minutes, it's worth it. Though I can't say I have any _proof_ of my feeling. And the ones I see for sale, are no faster. I have a 24X bought some time ago. And they're still at the 24X level. This one throws in As for speeds not going, I don't know what actual rotational speed 16 or 24 times corresponds to in DVDs, but I did hear that for CDs, the reason the industry stopped at about 50 or 52 times isn't lack of improvements in coating or electronics, it's that at any speed much above that, the base plastic is liable to disintegrate, giving you a drawer (or more likely mechanism) full of little pieces of plastic. A CD, at times 1 speed, rotates IIRR at about 700 down to 400 RPM (they play from the middle out, slowing down as they go - for an audio CD playing at standard speed; some of the faster drives max at a constant rotational velocity). If you think about that, times 50 or 52, they're really going some! I expect the same applies to DVD media too. MDISC burning as its new feature. Those are the "rock discs" for archival storage. (Oh, do they need special treatment, rather than just burning more slowly?) Last time I bought a drive (some years ago, an external one; I use optical discs very little altogether), the go-for feature was the ability to do "lightscribe" discs, which are ones (made by hp?) that have an extra coating on the other side which suitable drives can write the label on (monochrome only). I think that novelty has been overtaken by ones that can be printed directly on (and printers that can do so); I certainly can't remember seeing lightscribe discs (or burners) being advertised recently. I don't think I have the necessary software to design the "labels". My last two drives were LG. The Asus ones seem to be a bit different on noise. The LG isn't "quiet" but only an Asus sounds like an Asus. My Asus ones sit in the next room. LG http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA4M54185692 Asus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 "Cons: -the thing sounded like a jet engine at full rpm" But don't they all ? It can make quite a bit of difference just repositioning the disc on the spindle, IME. (Obviously not in the middle of a burn - I mean for reading.) [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The web is a blank slate; you can't design technology that is 'good'. You can't design paper that you can only write good things on. There are no good or evil tools. You can put an engine in an ambulance or a tank. - Sir Tim Berners-Lee, Radio Times 2009-Jan-30 to -Feb-5. |
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T wrote:
Hi All, Anyone have a favorite long lived Internal 5-1/4" DVD writer? I cut about four disks a week on this computer and it has to be absolutely reliable. And not break in a year too. Many thanks, -T Don't know about reliability but for $90 you can buy 6 of these and put in a new one every two months. Reviews are decent. http://www.microcenter.com/product/4...ble_SATA_Drive |
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On 12/10/2016 04:09 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote: Hi All, Anyone have a favorite long lived Internal 5-1/4" DVD writer? I cut about four disks a week on this computer and it has to be absolutely reliable. And not break in a year too. Many thanks, -T You do realize new models are released at random, and if there was such a thing as a "good" model, it's long forgotten. They're $20 a piece, and are like a roulette wheel in terms of what you get. You take your chances. The ones I've received were OK. I've had more troubles in the past with optical drives, than in the last three years. Check the customer reviews on Newegg, and see what they say. The mechanisms, I've seen a claim that the "engines" all come from the same plant. The controller board with a MediaTek chipset on it, that may be designed by the manufacturer. They need firmware. Products rushed to market don't have a complete set of media tags. And that's the reason you update the firmware before burning any test media. If a drive says "24X" in the advert, there is no 24X media to test with. If you're lucky, maybe you can find some 16X media. As a result of that, I don't know if the DVD burner industry has any more "innovations" to sell us. What's the point of "going faster" if there is no media for it ? And the ones I see for sale, are no faster. I have a 24X bought some time ago. And they're still at the 24X level. This one throws in MDISC burning as its new feature. Those are the "rock discs" for archival storage. My last two drives were LG. The Asus ones seem to be a bit different on noise. The LG isn't "quiet" but only an Asus sounds like an Asus. My Asus ones sit in the next room. LG http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA4M54185692 Asus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 "Cons: -the thing sounded like a jet engine at full rpm" But don't they all ? Actually, there are differences in the noise. An Asus might be like "white noise" or "whoosh". The ones I've got are more of a "whine" (a tone). Since the innovation has stopped, maybe the firmware will be mature when you buy one now. Most drives are "OEM". A drive mechanism in a plastic bag. No screws. No cables. Nothing. The "Retail" drives come in a cardboard box. The reason you buy them, is for the software CD. To find out what software is on the CD, you have to drive to the store and read the side of the box!!! I've had trouble in the past, finding *any* online info with a precise list. I used to get drives with a copy of Nero in the box. The copy of Nero only works with that drive, so it's a "branded" copy of a sort-of Nero Lite. Since we've got Imgburn now, Nero is no longer needed. I think I may have received a DVD movie player software of some sort too. So for double the price of a regular drive, you get a grab-bag of software. A good deal, maybe, if it's something you actually want. Unless your purchase is somehow a mechanical disaster (faceplate doesn't fit tray hole), you'll probably be happy with any of them ($20 ones). Paul Hi Paul, No fooling. The sub 20 U$D Lite On's that I sell with new systems only really have to work once when I install the OS. (I have started installing from flash drives a lot as they are so much faster.) I have never had a bad one reported, but then again, my customers hardly ever use them. In my case, the damned things need to work when I need them. I will look at the LG. ASUS and I have a checkered history. Sometimes their stuff is wonderfully well made and other times ... Thank you for your help! -T |
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On 12/10/2016 08:16 PM, pjp wrote:
I burn almost all disks using Nero 7 or Nero Vision under Win 7 btw I am fond of CD Burner XP for Windows and K3B for Linux. Both allow for a verification of the burn, which makes so you don't show up at a customer's site with a shiny tea coastie. Use the MSI version of CD Burner XP, it has no junkware. I hate junkware. |
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On 12/11/2016 11:47 AM, Wolf K wrote:
T wrote: Hi All, Anyone have a favorite long lived Internal 5-1/4" DVD writer? I cut about four disks a week on this computer and it has to be absolutely reliable. And not break in a year too. Many thanks, -T I bought a Plextor external, USB-connected optical drive some years ago, still the best way IMO. Hi Wolf, I have a bad, bad history with Plextor. My troubles with Plextor went to zero just as soon as I switched to any different brand. This was about 15 years ago. Perhaps they have cleaned up their act? Thank you for the help! -T |
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On 12/11/2016 5:17 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-12-11 15:16, T wrote: On 12/11/2016 11:47 AM, Wolf K wrote: T wrote: Hi All, Anyone have a favorite long lived Internal 5-1/4" DVD writer? I cut about four disks a week on this computer and it has to be absolutely reliable. And not break in a year too. Many thanks, -T I bought a Plextor external, USB-connected optical drive some years ago, still the best way IMO. Hi Wolf, I have a bad, bad history with Plextor. My troubles with Plextor went to zero just as soon as I switched to any different brand. This was about 15 years ago. Perhaps they have cleaned up their act? Thank you for the help! -T I bought the Plextor on the strength of a Maxximum PC (remember them?) review about 10 years ago. Have had no problems with it. But I don't burn as many CD/D DVDs as you apparently do, so in "engine hours" terms, the drive is still fairly new. Have a good day, I still subscribe to Maximum PC, been reading it since they were called BOOT magazine, some 20 years now. Rene |
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On 12/10/2016 02:39 PM, T wrote:
Hi All, Anyone have a favorite long lived Internal 5-1/4" DVD writer? I cut about four disks a week on this computer and it has to be absolutely reliable. And not break in a year too. Many thanks, -T Follow up: I order out an LG GH24NSC0B Thank you all for the help! -T |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 12:16:30 -0800, T wrote:
I have a bad, bad history with Plextor. My troubles with Plextor went to zero just as soon as I switched to any different brand. And in other news, the rate of teen pregnancy drops to zero when the woman reaches age 20. :-) -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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