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Windows Live Essentials 2012
I've used Windows Live Essentials 2012 for greater than 8 years. Just
deployed Windows 10 (64-bit) 2004 and it killed the program. Can't display emails. After uninstalling it cannot even re-install the program. Anyone else find this. (Yes, I use GMail also). -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Windows Live Essentials 2012
On 07/06/2020 02:57, jimrx4 wrote:
I've used Windows Live Essentials 2012 for greater than 8 years. Just deployed Windows 10 (64-bit) 2004 and it killed the program. Can't display emails. After uninstalling it cannot even re-install the program. Anyone else find this. (Yes, I use GMail also). No we don't use that archaic software anymore.Β*Β* For eMail people these days use Windows 10 Mail App or they use Thunderbird.Β* More savvy peopleΒ* use Microsoft Outlook but plebs here can't afford so they just use Mail app and/or Thunderbird. Path: aioe.org!.POSTED.BJtgMGJi0utwVVIdwOpOKg.user.gioia .aioe.org!not-for-mail From: "jimrx4" Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Windows Live Essentials 2012 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 18:57:53 -0700 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: BJtgMGJi0utwVVIdwOpOKg.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3528.331 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 200606-0, 06/06/2020), Outbound message Xref: aioe.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:115275 -- With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Windows Live Essentials 2012
jimrx4 wrote:
I've used Windows Live Essentials 2012 for greater than 8 years. Just deployed Windows 10 (64-bit) 2004 and it killed the program. Can't display emails. After uninstalling it cannot even re-install the program. Anyone else find this. (Yes, I use GMail also). Microsoft does have the ability to blacklist programs. Whether this is happening in your case, I don't know. You might see something similar, if you tried to install VPC2007 or tried to install Windows Virtual PC. They don't allow Microsoft VM products from previous eras, to install in the new OS. There used to be a thing called Applocker, that can be used to prevent things from happening too. It might well be deprecated today. You could do useful things with that, such as disable virtual optical drives on USB sticks that had setup.ini files on them and the like. 02/14/2020 09:53 AM 141,399,376 wlsetup-all__14.0.8117.416_english.exe 08/06/2017 05:39 PM 137,329,840 wlsetup-all__16.4.3528.0331_2012_Wave5.exe === my test It's possible the latter one is the one you're using. For Microsoft Games, you can use a hex editor to change something in the EXE file header, to allow the stuff to run. But that's not a solution for installer behavior (the installer would have to finish, and the issue would have to be a runtime blocker, for hex editing to potentially work). I'm going to try installing 2012_Wave5.exe and see what happens. https://i.postimg.cc/rwJLm8hm/wlsetu...mail-works.gif You can use the "Download Original" button on the web page, to get the full resolution if it's too squashed. When I downloaded mine, it was stored on a FAT32 volume, which means I lost any "download blocker" alternate stream that a web browser download sets on NTFS storage. You can check the Properties box of wlsetup.exe and make sure it's not blocked because it's a (potentially unsafe) download. Based on your description, that's probably not it. The program needs .NET 3.0, and you can go to Control Panels, Programs and Features, Windows features, and turn on .NET 3 there with the tick box. The OS will download the same installer file that Wlsetup would cause to be loaded. I like to do them from Programs and Features anyway. Not that this should matter. On the second try (with .NET 3.0 now installed), there were no further problems here. It seems to run. Paul |
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Windows Live Essentials 2012
"jimrx4" wrote in message ... I've used Windows Live Essentials 2012 for greater than 8 years. Just deployed Windows 10 (64-bit) 2004 and it killed the program. Can't display emails. After uninstalling it cannot even re-install the program. Anyone else find this. (Yes, I use GMail also). I use WLE2009 v.14.0.8117.416 for my newsgroups only (Office Outlook and Gmail for email). Upgrading to Win10 2004 killed mine also. I had to delete my message store located at C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Window s Live Mail\Mail.MSMessageStore. After rebooting the PC, I opened WLM and it created a new one. It may try to pull in a back up (if there is one- it creates one on it's own), but that didn't work for me- I lost all my newsgroups and had to re-subscribe. Not a big deal- I really didn't need the 10 year old messages anyhow, LOL! -- SC Tom |
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Windows Live Essentials 2012
"SC Tom" wrote in message ... "jimrx4" wrote in message ... I've used Windows Live Essentials 2012 for greater than 8 years. Just deployed Windows 10 (64-bit) 2004 and it killed the program. Can't display emails. After uninstalling it cannot even re-install the program. Anyone else find this. (Yes, I use GMail also). I use WLE2009 v.14.0.8117.416 for my newsgroups only (Office Outlook and Gmail for email). Upgrading to Win10 2004 killed mine also. I had to delete my message store located at C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Window s Live Mail\Mail.MSMessageStore. After rebooting the PC, I opened WLM and it created a new one. It may try to pull in a back up (if there is one- it creates one on it's own), but that didn't work for me- I lost all my newsgroups and had to re-subscribe. Not a big deal- I really didn't need the 10 year old messages anyhow, LOL! As a follow-up, I didn't uninstall WLE, but IIRC, when I did some years ago, I had to re-install it as "Win7 Compatible". HTH. |
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Windows Live Essentials 2012
SC Tom wrote:
"jimrx4" wrote in message ... I've used Windows Live Essentials 2012 for greater than 8 years. Just deployed Windows 10 (64-bit) 2004 and it killed the program. Can't display emails. After uninstalling it cannot even re-install the program. Anyone else find this. (Yes, I use GMail also). I use WLE2009 v.14.0.8117.416 for my newsgroups only (Office Outlook and Gmail for email). Upgrading to Win10 2004 killed mine also. I had to delete my message store located at C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Window s Live Mail\Mail.MSMessageStore. After rebooting the PC, I opened WLM and it created a new one. It may try to pull in a back up (if there is one- it creates one on it's own), but that didn't work for me- I lost all my newsgroups and had to re-subscribe. Not a big deal- I really didn't need the 10 year old messages anyhow, LOL! Is that a database format of some sort, that Mail.MSMessageStore ? Wiki says: "Windows Live Mail stores each email message as a separate .eml file. Only the folder structure is maintained in a single database file, using the ESE (Extensible Storage Engine) database structure, named Mail.MSMessageStore (which also holds some metadata for each .eml file on the system, so can be a huge file). The program also maintains a backup copy of that file, in the Backup sub-folder, so problems are rare. At a pinch, the Mail.MSMessageStore file can be recreated from the data in the .eml files." But I doubt newsgroups are stored that way, as .eml files. Paul |
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Windows Live Essentials 2012
On 07/06/2020 12:25, SC Tom wrote:
I use WLE2009 v.14.0.8117.416 for my newsgroups only (Office Outlook and Gmail for email). Upgrading to Win10 2004 killed mine also. If you are really desperate for it then try to reinstall in compatibility mode to see if it can install it.Β* I say try because all windows Apps require standard libraries for the UI and latest versions of Windows 10 may not have them.Β* Some people have downloaded all the old Application frameworks for their development work as they are compatible with Visual Studio up to 2019 (16.6.*). Frankly, you guys have to be wiser than worrying about old, archaic apps that are no longer fit for purpose.Β* When people buy new household item, they expect to use the new features;Β* They don't simply start removing all the new features that they know nothing about.Β* They don't use them until they have mastered them. People should be forced to re-educate themselves by attending night school once a week or at weekend even if they are taught something really basic!!Β* Education is a good thing to keep brain ticking even in your old age! -- With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Windows Live Essentials 2012
jimrx4 wrote:
I've used Windows Live Essentials 2012 for greater than 8 years. Just deployed Windows 10 (64-bit) 2004 and it killed the program. Can't display emails. After uninstalling it cannot even re-install the program. Anyone else find this. (Yes, I use GMail also). If I were you, I would bite the bullet and switch to another email (and News?) client. Windows Live Mail (I assume that's what you mean, because there's no 'Windows Live Essentials 2012', just 'Windows Essentials 2012') was broken from day one and got worse ever since. Which other email client? Probably Thunderbird, as being 'the best in a flat set of tyres'. FWIW, end of last year I tried to re-install WLM (don't ask why) on Windows 8.1. After a lot of trouble, I finally got the *British English* (the Universal English one didn't work) Installer (106MB) to work. I got it from this weird link (gotten from some Microsoft employee in some Microsoft Forum post, it's apparently no longer available from Microsoft itself): http://web.archive.org/web/20160423192125/http:/wl.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/1/9/4/194B1919-A211-441F-BC0E-34F6B533B876/en-gb/wlsetup-all.exe If you can't get the re-install to work, then note the error(s) yous get and research that in Google. That's how I got my install to work. Hope this helps and good luck. |
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Windows Live Essentials 2012
"Paul" wrote in message ... SC Tom wrote: "jimrx4" wrote in message ... I've used Windows Live Essentials 2012 for greater than 8 years. Just deployed Windows 10 (64-bit) 2004 and it killed the program. Can't display emails. After uninstalling it cannot even re-install the program. Anyone else find this. (Yes, I use GMail also). I use WLE2009 v.14.0.8117.416 for my newsgroups only (Office Outlook and Gmail for email). Upgrading to Win10 2004 killed mine also. I had to delete my message store located at C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Window s Live Mail\Mail.MSMessageStore. After rebooting the PC, I opened WLM and it created a new one. It may try to pull in a back up (if there is one- it creates one on it's own), but that didn't work for me- I lost all my newsgroups and had to re-subscribe. Not a big deal- I really didn't need the 10 year old messages anyhow, LOL! Is that a database format of some sort, that Mail.MSMessageStore ? Wiki says: "Windows Live Mail stores each email message as a separate .eml file. Only the folder structure is maintained in a single database file, using the ESE (Extensible Storage Engine) database structure, named Mail.MSMessageStore (which also holds some metadata for each .eml file on the system, so can be a huge file). The program also maintains a backup copy of that file, in the Backup sub-folder, so problems are rare. At a pinch, the Mail.MSMessageStore file can be recreated from the data in the .eml files." But I doubt newsgroups are stored that way, as .eml files. I not sure what the format is. Maybe if it was deleted on the OP's PC he wouldn't lose his emails, if they're stored as .eml files. I don't use WLM for email, just as a newsreader. -- SC Tom |
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