Printing web sites

Many sites now have a bunch of junk below the useful material - promos for
other sites, ads, etc. taking up as much space as the stuff you want. This
wastes a lot of paper and toner when printing the pages, evem if you use
the Print Preview option in Firefox - and I suspect other browsers. In this
case I often select the text I want and copy it to MS Word or other word
processor and print it from there. I noticed this morning that some of them
now will not permit selecting text to do this. sigh

How do you do it? Or do you just read it on line? I hate to read on line
stuff I want to remember.

Not strictly a XP problem but that's the OS I use.

TIA

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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

KenK wrote:
Many sites now have a bunch of junk below the useful material - promos for
other sites, ads, etc. taking up as much space as the stuff you want. This
wastes a lot of paper and toner when printing the pages, evem if you use
the Print Preview option in Firefox - and I suspect other browsers. In this
case I often select the text I want and copy it to MS Word or other word
processor and print it from there. I noticed this morning that some of them
now will not permit selecting text to do this. sigh

How do you do it? Or do you just read it on line? I hate to read on line
stuff I want to remember.

Firefox (menu bar enabled)/ View menu/ Page style/ No style

You should be able to copy the text from that view. That view is also
better for reading the text with some awkward styles.


--
Mike Easter

On 4/22/2017 10:04 AM, KenK wrote:
Many sites now have a bunch of junk below the useful material - promos for
other sites, ads, etc. taking up as much space as the stuff you want. This
wastes a lot of paper and toner when printing the pages, evem if you use
the Print Preview option in Firefox - and I suspect other browsers. In this
case I often select the text I want and copy it to MS Word or other word
processor and print it from there. I noticed this morning that some of them
now will not permit selecting text to do this. sigh

How do you do it? Or do you just read it on line? I hate to read on line
stuff I want to remember.

Not strictly a XP problem but that's the OS I use.

TIA

Save page as...webpage complete.
I've got 60 DVDs of stuff I've saved over the years.
I rarely print anything. If I printed it, I doubt
I'd ever find the paper after an hour.
Saved files can be searched by title or content.
As pages include more ads and links, it an take a lot
of space. I've experimented with deleting the ads
from the saved page. You can't just delete the whole
directory, and trying to do it manually by file is
far too labor intensive. Would be interesting to try
to script it.

There's a program called HTMtied.
You right-click the web address.
Click copy.
Click the HTMtied icon on the taskbar.
Navigate to the place you store stuff and
right-click-paste.
The result is a direct html link to the page.
You can get back there by double-clicking the link.
You still have to read it online, but have an easy
way to organize stuff and get back there later.

I've been using this more and more. Saves a TON of
drive space.
Problem is that it's only as good as the stability of
the link. As links come/go/move, it's less than ideal.

I'm using it in win7. Never tried it in XP.
Apparently you need
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
for XP.

I've used Faststone screen capture and save the image.
It allows you to screen capture a scrolling window.
Works mostly, but not always.
This makes huge files and is only good for
short-term access.

Ken,

I noticed this morning that some of them now will not permit
selecting text to do this. sigh

Thats caused by a bit of JavaScript. Switch it (temporarily) off*, or
install a pluging which disallows websites to hijack your keyboard/mouse
that way.

*On my (old) version of FF its under Tools - options - content (tab) -
Enable Javascript (tickbox).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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KenK schreef in berichtnieuws
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Many sites now have a bunch of junk below the useful material - promos for
other sites, ads, etc. taking up as much space as the stuff you want. This
wastes a lot of paper and toner when printing the pages, evem if you use
the Print Preview option in Firefox - and I suspect other browsers. In
this
case I often select the text I want and copy it to MS Word or other word
processor and print it from there. I noticed this morning that some of
them
now will not permit selecting text to do this. sigh

How do you do it? Or do you just read it on line? I hate to read on line
stuff I want to remember.

Not strictly a XP problem but that's the OS I use.

TIA

--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

On 4/22/17 11:04 AM, KenK wrote:
Many sites now have a bunch of junk below the useful material - promos for
other sites, ads, etc. taking up as much space as the stuff you want. This
wastes a lot of paper and toner when printing the pages, evem if you use
the Print Preview option in Firefox - and I suspect other browsers. In this
case I often select the text I want and copy it to MS Word or other word
processor and print it from there. I noticed this morning that some of them
now will not permit selecting text to do this. sigh

How do you do it? Or do you just read it on line? I hate to read on line
stuff I want to remember.

Not strictly a XP problem but that's the OS I use.

TIA

Print Edit Addon. I use it all the time. I simply hide the items I
don't want to print. Or you can delete them from your computer, and
save the edited page without all the garbage.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...on/print-edit/

Takes a bit of getting used to until you get a feel for how things will
work.

--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 51.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 45.7.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

KenK wrote:
Many sites now have a bunch of junk below the useful material - promos for
other sites, ads, etc. taking up as much space as the stuff you want. This
wastes a lot of paper and toner when printing the pages, evem if you use
the Print Preview option in Firefox - and I suspect other browsers. In this
case I often select the text I want and copy it to MS Word or other word
processor and print it from there. I noticed this morning that some of them
now will not permit selecting text to do this. sigh

How do you do it? Or do you just read it on line? I hate to read on line
stuff I want to remember.

Not strictly a XP problem but that's the OS I use.

TIA


Do you have a sample page we could poke at ?

On one municipal page, I "saved as web page complete"
and found the subroutine that put the floating social media
palette into the picture. Removed it, loaded the page from
disk, then printed out the information for a relative.

Certainly not as convenient as Ken Springer's idea.

In theory, depending on the format of a "print to file", the
content may be separated into layers. If you have the
right tool for post-editing. So there may be other ways
to rip the print apart, with say Libreoffice or MSWord
PDF import or something.

Paul

KenK wrote:

Many sites now have a bunch of junk below the useful material - promos for
other sites, ads, etc. taking up as much space as the stuff you want. This
wastes a lot of paper and toner when printing the pages, evem if you use
the Print Preview option in Firefox - and I suspect other browsers. In this
case I often select the text I want and copy it to MS Word or other word
processor and print it from there. I noticed this morning that some of them
now will not permit selecting text to do this. sigh

How do you do it? Or do you just read it on line? I hate to read on line
stuff I want to remember.

There are add-ons to web browsers. Which ones depend on the web browser
which you never mentioned. I use Firefox. With that I use the Pearl
Crescent Page Saver add-on. Rather than waste paper, it captures what
was selected into an image file. You can read the image file later,
send it to cloud storage to access elsewhere, or you could print it.
Alas, this add-on is not available for Chromium variants. I don't use
them so have not bothered to search for an equivalent add-on for those.
As with an add-on, all require some minimal version of the web browser
so the functionality exists to use the add-on. The add-on page
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...don/pagesaver/) doesn't list
a minimal version of Firefox. The add-on does not support E10s
(Electrolysis mode) for multi-processing. For now, have ANY add-on,
even those supposedly compatible with E10s mode, will disable E10s mode
in Firefox (you would have to override). If and when Mozilla forces
E10s mode at some future version of Firefox, more add-ons will die.

Pages don't exist in the web, just documents. Although it's called a
web page, it is handled as a document (each "web page" is another
document) and is not set to any specific paper size. A web document can
be very long (actually unlimited). In fact, some keep appending more
and content every time you reach the end of the currently delivered
document. It just keeps growing. You could print the web document
using a PDF printer (it is an emulated printer but outputs PDF files)
and then use a PDF viewer (I use PDFXchange Editor but there are many
others). From there I can select which pages to print: one page, some
pages, non-contiguous pages, or all pages.

There are plenty of screen capture tools, like PicPick, that will let
you select what you want to captu a selected region, the displayed
area, or the whole page. They will even auto-scroll the window to
capture all of it instead of just what is currently displayed in the
window.

You could just use the File - Save As in your web browser to save a
local copy of the file and read it on your computer later (or, as
mentioned before, save to online storage to access from elsewhere). Why
waste paper unless you really need to access the document somewhere
there is no electricity or no computer?

Firefox has its Reader mode (https://github.com/mozilla/readability).
When using Firefox and visiting a site that supports Reader mode, you
will see an open-book icon at the right side of the address bar. Click
on it to use Reader View mode. A lot of crap gets blocked in that view.
You could then save it to a file or print the simplified view. I don't
know that the Chromium variants have this feature. As an example, see:

https://www.howtogeek.com/268116/is-...zilla-firefox/

That document (page) supports Reader mode. Click on the open-book icon
to switch into the simplified version of the document. That article
mentions an add-on that merely prepends about:reader?url= to the
existing URL in the address bar to activate Reader mode. You do not get
exactly the same result. For example, for the above URL, visiting there
and using the address bar icon to switch to Reader mode still includes
the graphic that is part of the article. Prepending about:reader?url=
to that URL only shows the text. The graphic is missing. Forced Reader
mode is using only the triggers found in the document to strip out the
text. The document gets pushed at the readability module rather than
the client determining if there is sufficient identification to qualify
the page as having a reader view. Try reading any non-fiction book
where someone has used Whiteout on all the pictures and you'll lose
valuable content. Try visiting cnn.com and using the add-on or using
about:reader?url=cnn.com and there would be no point visiting there.
Even mozilla.org is nearly worthless as about:reader?url=mozilla.org.
If only text is what you want, and just a sporadic sampling of it, then
try the add-on or prepend about:reader?url= to the URL.

On 22/04/2017 18:04, KenK wrote:
Many sites now have a bunch of junk below the useful material - promos for
other sites, ads, etc. taking up as much space as the stuff you want. This
wastes a lot of paper and toner when printing the pages, evem if you use
the Print Preview option in Firefox - and I suspect other browsers. In this
case I often select the text I want and copy it to MS Word or other word
processor and print it from there. I noticed this morning that some of them
now will not permit selecting text to do this. sigh

How do you do it? Or do you just read it on line? I hate to read on line
stuff I want to remember.

Not strictly a XP problem but that's the OS I use.

TIA


Two ways to print an HTML page without the Ads and pictures:

1) disable scripts on the page and then see if the Ads are still on it.
You will find that the page only contains something more meaningful.

2) you can use an online printer to create a pdf file and then use your
printer to print that pdf file that is cleaned up. The online service
is at this link:

https://www.printfriendly.com/

Enter your link on that page and follow the instructions. You need some
intelligence, of course, and this goes without saying!!

Hope this useful suggestion helps you to get over your XP problems. You
have a lot to catch up because after XP you have to learn Windows 7 and
then Windows Vista and Windows 8 and 8.1 and then the ultimate version -
WINDOWS 10 (DIX). YOU WILL DEAD BY THEN ANYWAY.


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In message , mike
writes:
[]
There's a program called HTMtied.
You right-click the web address.
Click copy.
Click the HTMtied icon on the taskbar.
Navigate to the place you store stuff and
right-click-paste.
The result is a direct html link to the page.
You can get back there by double-clicking the link.
You still have to read it online, but have an easy
way to organize stuff and get back there later.
[]
How does that differ from saving a bookmark (Firefox) or Favorite (IE)?
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In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
Print Edit Addon. I use it all the time. I simply hide the items I
don't want to print. Or you can delete them from your computer, and
save the edited page without all the garbage.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...on/print-edit/

Takes a bit of getting used to until you get a feel for how things will
work.

I find I already had it, but I hadn't realised it could be used to edit
pages before saving, as well as before printing. Thanks.
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about being more right over time and fixing what it got wrong.
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On 4/23/17 4:28 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
Print Edit Addon. I use it all the time. I simply hide the items I
don't want to print. Or you can delete them from your computer, and
save the edited page without all the garbage.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...on/print-edit/

Takes a bit of getting used to until you get a feel for how things will
work.

I find I already had it, but I hadn't realised it could be used to edit
pages before saving, as well as before printing. Thanks.

Your welcome.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 51.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 45.7.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

On 4/23/2017 12:46 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , mike writes:
[]
There's a program called HTMtied.
You right-click the web address.
Click copy.
Click the HTMtied icon on the taskbar.
Navigate to the place you store stuff and
right-click-paste.
The result is a direct html link to the page.
You can get back there by double-clicking the link.
You still have to read it online, but have an easy
way to organize stuff and get back there later.
[]
How does that differ from saving a bookmark (Firefox) or Favorite (IE)?
Not at all until your bookmarks window gets so cluttered you can't find
anything.

I organize stuff to a thumb drive that gets archived on DVD.

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:08:08 -0700, mike wrote:

On 4/23/2017 12:46 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , mike writes:
[]
There's a program called HTMtied.
You right-click the web address.
Click copy.
Click the HTMtied icon on the taskbar.
Navigate to the place you store stuff and
right-click-paste.
The result is a direct html link to the page.
You can get back there by double-clicking the link.
You still have to read it online, but have an easy
way to organize stuff and get back there later.
[]
How does that differ from saving a bookmark (Firefox) or Favorite (IE)?
Not at all until your bookmarks window gets so cluttered you can't find
anything.

I organize stuff to a thumb drive that gets archived on DVD.

I just create a shortcut on things like this so I can name them in
some rational way and store them in a directory on the desktop.

In message , mike
writes:
On 4/23/2017 12:46 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , mike writes:
[]
There's a program called HTMtied.
You right-click the web address.
Click copy.
Click the HTMtied icon on the taskbar.
Navigate to the place you store stuff and
right-click-paste.
The result is a direct html link to the page.
You can get back there by double-clicking the link.
You still have to read it online, but have an easy
way to organize stuff and get back there later.
[]
How does that differ from saving a bookmark (Firefox) or Favorite (IE)?
Not at all until your bookmarks window gets so cluttered you can't find
anything.

I organize stuff to a thumb drive that gets archived on DVD.

I organise my bookmarks into sub-folders; I'd never find anything if
they were just one long list!

And Firefox's bookmarks handler does also have a find function.

Unless I'm missing something (which I may well be), I still can't see
how HTMtied helps with this situation anyway: if my bookmarks window
could get so cluttered that I can't find anything, then presumably my
HTMtied window (or whatever) could too.

(But then I could never see the point of OneNote either, whereas some of
those around me thought it was great; I could only think this was
because they were untidy in their computer usage, where I wasn't, and
this was a way to impose some order. [Inside computers, I _am_ tidy; in
real life, I am extremely untidy!])
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

he was eventually struck off by the BMA in 1968 for not knowing his gluteus
maximus from his humerus.