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Auto date on to phone photo?
I have a Samsung / Android smartphone.
Is there any app to automatically & permantely burn the Date/Time on to the photo, like in the old film days? P |
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"Peter Jason" wrote
|I have a Samsung / Android smartphone. | | Is there any app to automatically & permantely burn the Date/Time on | to the photo, like in the old film days? | If you're taking JPGs the date is probably already there. Open a photo in IrfanView and check the image properties to find out if there's EXIF data. But there's no such thing as permanent. EXIF data is just optional data added to a JPG header. Personally I usually strip it out for privacy if I do any editing and/or use an image online. You could theoretically use a system to embed data in pixels, but even then it would be lost if the image were opened and resaved. The image is just a bitmap that's compressed. In other words, it contains a grid of pixel color values. That's all there is in a raster image. The rest is expendable and depends on the image format as well as software. |
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 21:47:48 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote: "Peter Jason" wrote |I have a Samsung / Android smartphone. | | Is there any app to automatically & permantely burn the Date/Time on | to the photo, like in the old film days? | If you're taking JPGs the date is probably already there. Open a photo in IrfanView and check the image properties to find out if there's EXIF data. But there's no such thing as permanent. EXIF data is just optional data added to a JPG header. Personally I usually strip it out for privacy if I do any editing and/or use an image online. You could theoretically use a system to embed data in pixels, but even then it would be lost if the image were opened and resaved. The image is just a bitmap that's compressed. In other words, it contains a grid of pixel color values. That's all there is in a raster image. The rest is expendable and depends on the image format as well as software. Thanks, I mean just for family snaps. Even after adjusting in PShop etc I still have to manually insert the date along with annotations. |
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 21:47:48 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote: "Peter Jason" wrote |I have a Samsung / Android smartphone. | | Is there any app to automatically & permantely burn the Date/Time on | to the photo, like in the old film days? | If you're taking JPGs the date is probably already there. Open a photo in IrfanView and check the image properties to find out if there's EXIF data. But there's no such thing as permanent. EXIF data is just optional data added to a JPG header. Personally I usually strip it out for privacy if I do any editing and/or use an image online. You could theoretically use a system to embed data in pixels, but even then it would be lost if the image were opened and resaved. The image is just a bitmap that's compressed. In other words, it contains a grid of pixel color values. That's all there is in a raster image. The rest is expendable and depends on the image format as well as software. I found a camera that seems to do it... https://postimg.cc/cvX6jTMF (Sanyo VPC-E10EX) |
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On 07/12/2019 04.01, Peter Jason wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 21:47:48 -0500, "Mayayana" wrote: "Peter Jason" wrote |I have a Samsung / Android smartphone. | | Is there any app to automatically & permantely burn the Date/Time on | to the photo, like in the old film days? | If you're taking JPGs the date is probably already there. Open a photo in IrfanView and check the image properties to find out if there's EXIF data. But there's no such thing as permanent. EXIF data is just optional data added to a JPG header. Personally I usually strip it out for privacy if I do any editing and/or use an image online. You could theoretically use a system to embed data in pixels, but even then it would be lost if the image were opened and resaved. The image is just a bitmap that's compressed. In other words, it contains a grid of pixel color values. That's all there is in a raster image. The rest is expendable and depends on the image format as well as software. Thanks, I mean just for family snaps. Even after adjusting in PShop etc I still have to manually insert the date along with annotations. Why? Your family only have to click see properties of the photo to know when it was taken. No need to damage a photo by printing on top of it a text with the date. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Peter Jason wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 21:47:48 -0500, "Mayayana" wrote: "Peter Jason" wrote |I have a Samsung / Android smartphone. | | Is there any app to automatically & permantely burn the Date/Time on | to the photo, like in the old film days? | If you're taking JPGs the date is probably already there. Open a photo in IrfanView and check the image properties to find out if there's EXIF data. But there's no such thing as permanent. EXIF data is just optional data added to a JPG header. Personally I usually strip it out for privacy if I do any editing and/or use an image online. You could theoretically use a system to embed data in pixels, but even then it would be lost if the image were opened and resaved. The image is just a bitmap that's compressed. In other words, it contains a grid of pixel color values. That's all there is in a raster image. The rest is expendable and depends on the image format as well as software. I found a camera that seems to do it... https://postimg.cc/cvX6jTMF (Sanyo VPC-E10EX) You don't have to "buy" this function. Cameras insert EXIF data automatically as part of shooting photos. https://i.postimg.cc/9QCMPvhW/sample-exif-data.gif "Date Picture Taken:" === EXIF data, inside the picture (4CC code...) "Date Modified" === File Explorer info, when pic loaded from cam (will be some time after the previous field) Transferring hidden metadata to the surface of the photo (which is an "image damaging step") is a separate process. And less critical than first ascertaining that the photos you are taking, have the EXIF in the first place. And as we've noted in previous questions on the topic, Windows Search is indexing the EXIF on your pictures too. It's just a matter of finding the supported list of EXIF fields, to search against them. Not all of the EXIF fields in a photo are indexed (although they should be). datetaken:10/1/2014 EXIF could be removed, as a result of editing with various tools. For example, if I used NETPBM, transferred jpg == ppm == jpg, then I would expect to lose the EXIF data. So if you need "datetaken" to be transferred to the front surface of the picture, that has to be done with a non-naive tool. You can't have junk tooling in the workflow, or there could be loss of stuff like that. That's also the reason, that incoming materials should be archived, and kept separate from all of the steps that come after it. There are other devices that don't use EXIF. A cheap webcam isn't going to stamp like that. VLC screenshots wouldn't have it. GIMP screenshots wouldn't have it. But digital cameras are usually pretty good at placing that info in EXIF. ******* So now is the fun part. What fun would it be to use a dedicated stamper program, when you can whip up some commands for your own self ? :-) materials: imagemagick gawk # only because I'm not good with script files in work folder: magick.exe mfc120u.dll msvcr120.dll msvcp120.dll vcomp120.dll gawk.exe magick identify -verbose img_0034.jpg | findstr "DateTime:" | gawk "{print $2 \" \" $3}" mywords.txt magick convert img_0034.jpg -gravity SouthEast -pointsize 100 -fill red -font Arial -annotate +300+200 @mywords.txt out.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bNHf1K5y/timestamping.jpg Paul |
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On 12/6/2019 10:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 07/12/2019 04.01, Peter Jason wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 21:47:48 -0500, "Mayayana" wrote: "Peter Jason" wrote |I have a Samsung / Android smartphone. | | Is there any app to automatically & permantely burn the Date/Time on | to the photo, like in the old film days? | If you're taking JPGs the date is probably already there. Open a photo in IrfanView and check the image properties to find out if there's EXIF data. But there's no such thing as permanent. EXIF data is just optional data added to a JPG header. Personally I usually strip it out for privacy if I do any editing and/or use an image online. You could theoretically use a system to embed data in pixels, but even then it would be lost if the image were opened and resaved. The image is just a bitmap that's compressed. In other words, it contains a grid of pixel color values. That's all there is in a raster image. The rest is expendable and depends on the image format as well as software. Thanks, I mean just for family snaps. Even after adjusting in PShop etc I still have to manually insert the date along with annotations. Why? Your family only have to click see properties of the photo to know when it was taken. No need to damage a photo by printing on top of it a text with the date. If you are using an Olympus camera the date is in the file name. PB251249 P an identifier B the month of the year November ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C ) 25 the day of the month 1249 sequential number. To keep track of the year, I have a folder for each month of the year where I store pictures take during that month. Other cameras have the date with a different numbering scheme. |
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On 07/12/2019 15.50, knuttle wrote:
On 12/6/2019 10:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: On 07/12/2019 04.01, Peter Jason wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 21:47:48 -0500, "Mayayana" wrote: ..... Thanks, I mean just for family snaps.Â* Even after adjusting in PShop etc I still have to manually insert the date along with annotations. Why? Your family only have to click see properties of the photo to know when it was taken. No need to damage a photo by printing on top of it a text with the date. Anyway, some cameras have a setting to "print" a timestamp on top of the photo. If you are using an Olympus camera the date is in the file name. PB251249 P an identifier B the month of the yearÂ* NovemberÂ* ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B CÂ* ) 25 the day of the month 1249 sequential number. To keep track of the year, I have a folder for each month of the year where I store pictures take during that month. Other cameras have the date with a different numbering scheme. But all have the date on each photo metadata, together with other data such as camera model and settings. A mobile phone will also record the location. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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On 07/12/2019 13.43, Paul wrote:
There are other devices that don't use EXIF. A cheap webcam isn't going to stamp like that. VLC screenshots wouldn't have it. GIMP screenshots wouldn't have it. But digital cameras are usually pretty good at placing that info in EXIF. My photo negative scanner does. The pain is that it sets the date to "Fri Jan 1, 2010" and can not be adjusted (in pre-process). -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 07/12/2019 13.43, Paul wrote: There are other devices that don't use EXIF. A cheap webcam isn't going to stamp like that. VLC screenshots wouldn't have it. GIMP screenshots wouldn't have it. But digital cameras are usually pretty good at placing that info in EXIF. My photo negative scanner does. The pain is that it sets the date to "Fri Jan 1, 2010" and can not be adjusted (in pre-process). Does this imply your photo negative scanner has a CR2032 in it ? A battery ? That value is not an accident, it's a "hint" that maintenance is required. Google the model number of your scanner, and see if there is either: 1) A software app to set the time. 2) A battery replacement procedure. Paul |
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On 07/12/2019 20.07, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote: On 07/12/2019 13.43, Paul wrote: There are other devices that don't use EXIF. A cheap webcam isn't going to stamp like that. VLC screenshots wouldn't have it. GIMP screenshots wouldn't have it. But digital cameras are usually pretty good at placing that info in EXIF. My photo negative scanner does. The pain is that it sets the date to "Fri Jan 1, 2010" and can not be adjusted (in pre-process). Does this imply your photo negative scanner has a CR2032 in it ? A battery ? There is no clock, as far as I know, the timestamp is fixed for all photos. In fact, other another app says the time is " : : : : ". And yet another app shows the hour fluctuating, but always the same day. This is interesting. How can the hour change if there is no clock? Something else setting an arbitrary time? There is a rechargeable battery in place, but I do not remember reading about any clock setting procedure in the papers. It is a reflecta x7-scan. https://reflecta.de/dynamic/dlFile/a83e72851b8dd95f9e25d6fd2fdbf91a/user-manual-x7-Scan-english.pdf I don't see anything about setting up the time, which is a real nuisance, because forces me to use other tools to set up the date - the date when the photo was taken, not when scanned. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 07/12/2019 20.07, Paul wrote: Carlos E.R. wrote: On 07/12/2019 13.43, Paul wrote: There are other devices that don't use EXIF. A cheap webcam isn't going to stamp like that. VLC screenshots wouldn't have it. GIMP screenshots wouldn't have it. But digital cameras are usually pretty good at placing that info in EXIF. My photo negative scanner does. The pain is that it sets the date to "Fri Jan 1, 2010" and can not be adjusted (in pre-process). Does this imply your photo negative scanner has a CR2032 in it ? A battery ? There is no clock, as far as I know, the timestamp is fixed for all photos. In fact, other another app says the time is " : : : : ". And yet another app shows the hour fluctuating, but always the same day. This is interesting. How can the hour change if there is no clock? Something else setting an arbitrary time? There is a rechargeable battery in place, but I do not remember reading about any clock setting procedure in the papers. It is a reflecta x7-scan. https://reflecta.de/dynamic/dlFile/a83e72851b8dd95f9e25d6fd2fdbf91a/user-manual-x7-Scan-english.pdf I don't see anything about setting up the time, which is a real nuisance, because forces me to use other tools to set up the date - the date when the photo was taken, not when scanned. https://www.firstcall-photographic.c...-scanner/p5346 Size: 143 x 106 x 108 mm Weight: 1kg Compatible: PC / Mac (as Mass Storage Device, no driver required) So it doesn't seem to have a flexible interface from the USB cable at least. It has the electronics of a digital camera, but lacks an interface. You would think the LCD screen and buttons would give access to internal functions. The manual shows all the icons it's got... and no time function. Paul |
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On 07/12/2019 22.19, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote: On 07/12/2019 20.07, Paul wrote: Carlos E.R. wrote: On 07/12/2019 13.43, Paul wrote: .... https://www.firstcall-photographic.c...-scanner/p5346 Size: 143 x 106 x 108 mm Weight: 1kg Compatible: PC / Mac (as Mass Storage Device, no driver required) So it doesn't seem to have a flexible interface from the USB cable at least. It has the electronics of a digital camera, but lacks an interface. You would think the LCD screen and buttons would give access to internal functions. The manual shows all the icons it's got... and no time function. Right, that's what I knew, but thanks for confirming :-) -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Peter Jason wrote:
I have a Samsung / Android smartphone. Is there any app to automatically & permantely burn the Date/Time on to the photo, like in the old film days? Try the huji app. it even also adds colour artefacts of old style disposable cameras. https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...jicam&hl=en_US |
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Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 07/12/2019 20.07, Paul wrote: Carlos E.R. wrote: On 07/12/2019 13.43, Paul wrote: There are other devices that don't use EXIF. A cheap webcam isn't going to stamp like that. VLC screenshots wouldn't have it. GIMP screenshots wouldn't have it. But digital cameras are usually pretty good at placing that info in EXIF. My photo negative scanner does. The pain is that it sets the date to "Fri Jan 1, 2010" and can not be adjusted (in pre-process). Does this imply your photo negative scanner has a CR2032 in it ? A battery ? There is no clock, as far as I know, the timestamp is fixed for all photos. In fact, other another app says the time is " : : : : ". And yet another app shows the hour fluctuating, but always the same day. This is interesting. How can the hour change if there is no clock? Something else setting an arbitrary time? There is a rechargeable battery in place, but I do not remember reading about any clock setting procedure in the papers. It is a reflecta x7-scan. https://reflecta.de/dynamic/dlFile/a83e72851b8dd95f9e25d6fd2fdbf91a/user-manual-x7-Scan-english.pdf I don't see anything about setting up the time, which is a real nuisance, because forces me to use other tools to set up the date - the date when the photo was taken, not when scanned. I have a similar 'scanner' [1], a Rollei DF-S 290 HD. It has the same behaviour, with the difference that mine sets the (EXIF) 'Date taken' ((Windows) File Explorer property [2]) to "1-1-2018 12:00". During use, the time part changes, i.e. 12:01, 12:02, etc.. So I'm afraid that this is just bad behaviour and nothing you can do about it. FWIW, my scanner sets the 'Program name' field ((Windows) File Explorer property) to "COACHWare 1.0". Maybe your scanner uses the same firmware. N.B. I do no longer use this scanner because it gives crappy/ unreliable results, i.e. (very) low quality pictures. I now use a flatbed scanner with negative/slide capability, a Canon CanoScan 9000F MarkII. That (Canon) scanner leaves the (EXIF) 'Date taken' field empty, which IMO is better, i.e. better an empty field than a wrong field. [1] It's not a scanner, because it does not scan. It takes a picture (of the negative/slide), so it's essentially a digital camera. [2] In (Windows) File Explorer, right-click on the file - Properties - 'Details' tab - Origin - Date taken. |
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