HI Re

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:18:39 +0100, John wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:11:50 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:55:40 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 23:28:57 +0100, "whizz"
wrote:

Hi, I have tinnitus, it's like a high frequency noise that disturbs
concentration and sleep. I suffer from this disease for 10 years long.

It probably seems *much* longer. You have my sympathies. Tinnitus is
a horrible thing and often incurable and untreatable. Many doctors
used to think it was all in your head, imaginary, not real, but that
is an out-moded position. Today, they do try to treat it, though with
little success in many patients.
There is a temporary phenomenon that sounds much like what tinnitus
sufferers hear constantly, it is the whine as air escapes from the
inner ear to equalise pressure. This lasts a few seconds in most
people and is rare. In tinnitus, it often lasts all day, every day and
it can be very much louder than that whining hiss.
Some tinnitus sufferers wander about wearing headphones and listening
to loud music. Rock is best, though some Classical can help and
ballads in foreign languages are exceedingly distracting.
For others, this strategy just makes it worse as the music slowly
damages the ears.

Is this related with Windows 8?

Yes, it is. You must never go within 500 metres or 20,000 feet of
anything computerised for the rest of your life. If you do the
tinnitus will get louder and cover more frequencies and you will break
out in clusters of little red spots.
Trust me, I am not a lawyer.
But my medical advice is, on this one occasion, a tad strange,
alternative, weird and unorthodox. Not "wrong", per se, just off the
beaten track. So far off that I couldn't find the beaten track from my
advice with the aid of a map, two hunting dogs and a radio telescope.



STOP IT! Or you'll go blind!

I see.


When I lived in Buffalo, NY, the other students told me that if I wore
rubbers (slip-on overshoes to keep shoes & feet dry) indoors, I'd go
blind.

"Oh-kayyyyy." He says, slowly and dubiously. "So what the hell was
the logic, if such a word applies, behind this myth?"

I'm quite curious about this as I can see little or no connection.
Maybe something like static charge build-up due to the rubber being an
insulator? But how would that affect *eyesight*? And why *only*
eyesight? Because eyesight has the most delicate ROM, RAM and other
circuitry of all cerebral sub-systems?

Sorry but I find this myth slightly baffling.



I laughed at them and ignored the advice.

Unless there is a causal path, a defined failure mode, included in
the advice it is probably wise to.


I can still see.

Can you? Really? Do you know for *certain* that what you are doing is
what the rest of us call "seeing" and not some substitute like
Daredevil's "radar"?
Maybe you swapped imperceptibly from one to the other while the
overshoes were doing their damage?
J.

As for your comment about baffling, and quoting from a reply I just
posted to winston:

"To tell the truth, I could never get any idea where their idea came
from."

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:25:19 +0100, Randy wrote:

Could be tinnitus related with mosquito alarm?

That might not explain why Bedrich Smetana famously suffered from it in
the 19th century.

Or why today's sufferers are affected by it far from any commercial - or
even residential - sites.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:50:02 -0700, ...winston‫ wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:55:40 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 23:28:57 +0100, "whizz"
wrote:

Hi, I have tinnitus, it's like a high frequency noise that disturbs
concentration and sleep. I suffer from this disease for 10 years long.
Is this related with Windows 8?

STOP IT! Or you'll go blind!

When I lived in Buffalo, NY, the other students told me that if I wore
rubbers (slip-on overshoes to keep shoes & feet dry) indoors, I'd go
blind.

I laughed at them and ignored the advice.

I can still see.

Maybe those students were confused or misinterpreted the information
they received....who knows maybe the covered risk was due to 'Trojans'

You let the cat out of the bag :-)

And you made me laugh.

You also proved I was right to disambiguate the word with my
parenthetical remark :-)

To tell the truth, I could never get any idea where their idea came
from. Maybe it did relate to the product that was sold for the
prevention of disease only. BTW, I don't recall what the kids in Buffalo
called those products - I do know that various slang words, especially
for things relating to sex, varied in the different cities I grew up in.

Well I remember purchasing my first one. After seeing all the versions
in the drug store I was totally confused. The lady probably mid-30's
(why couldn't it have been a man) behind the counter noticed me,
approached me and asked if I needed help. Embarrassing! She informed me
that two types were available lambskin and latex.
Well, having worked in my younger years helping out on Saturday's at my
uncle Carmen's Italian deli I knew that lambskin casings were used for
certain types but not all homemade 'sausages'. Trying to control my
surprise at the terminology she used, my naive horror just couldn't
imagine using the same 'skin' that the deli used for my extracurricular
activities.

--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:25:19 +0100, Randy wrote:

Could be tinnitus related with mosquito alarm?

"Gene E. Bloch" escreveu na mensagem
...

Or why today's sufferers are affected by it far from any commercial - or
even residential - sites.

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It's strange that there are cases when more than one person can hear the
noise supposedly comming from a sufferer's inside brain. Sound waves have
long ranges, as we can listen to radio music comming from long distances.

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:37:06 +0100, Randy wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:25:19 +0100, Randy wrote:

Could be tinnitus related with mosquito alarm?

"Gene E. Bloch" escreveu na mensagem
...

Or why today's sufferers are affected by it far from any commercial - or
even residential - sites.

---

It's strange that there are cases when more than one person can hear the
noise supposedly comming from a sufferer's inside brain. Sound waves have
long ranges, as we can listen to radio music comming from long distances.

Nobody but me has ever heard my tinnitus.

What you are talking about is external noise...which is just *not* the
same thing.

Your quoting style continues to be a mess. Good old Windows Live Mail.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:25:17 +0100, John wrote:

Your quoting style continues to be a mess. Good old Windows Live Mail.

It has been mentioned. He ignores the rebukes.
Basically, he's inconsiderate and a bit of a prat at times.

You're kidding, right?

No - *I* am :-)

I like your question (unquoted) about the possibility of a microphone in
the outer ear picking up such noises.

I can make noises in my ear which might be audible that way. They are
rumbles, which I finally figured out[1] are due either to the Eustachian
tube muscles or the protective muscles that tense the middle ear against
loud noises.

[1] In this context, replace that by "guessed"...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:29:26 +0100, John wrote:

That is a pity. I don't suppose you feel like tracking down one of
the little buggers and *asking* him? Assuming that's possible,
assuming you remember any of them and assuming *they* remember the
myth, that is.

No chance - too much time and space involved, sorry.

Fact is I don't even recall if I actually *did* ask them why at the
time. I may have simply expressed disbelief.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 01:09:12 +0100, John wrote:

I can make noises in my ear which might be audible that way. They are
rumbles, which I finally figured out[1] are due either to the Eustachian
tube muscles or the protective muscles that tense the middle ear against
loud noises.

I can move my ears backwards, like a cat flattening them to ready
itself for fighting only mine don't go so far as theirs. When I do
this there is a "train-in-a-tunnel" like noise. Is that what you mean?

Probably not. It really is a rumble, so I don't think it sounds like a
train in a tunnel. More like a highly attenuated form of thunder.

I'm jealous: my ears are fixed. No, not repaired, just immobile :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 01:22:13 +0100, John wrote:

Still, it could be vaguely interesting as an intellectual exercise to
discover what their fates were. I do know none of them ever became
celebrities of any sort as I'm fairly confident that the names would
have resonated.
Maybe not.

My thoughts along those lines seem to relate mainly to what were then
girls that I would like to relate to now :-)

It's a form of regretting the non-relating of yore.

Typo left in for humorous intent.

It worked as designed :-)

BTW, I'm being lazy, so I snipped heavily, instead of addressing your
other interesting comments.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 01:09:12 +0100, John wrote:

I can make noises in my ear which might be audible that way. They are
rumbles, which I finally figured out[1] are due either to the Eustachian
tube muscles or the protective muscles that tense the middle ear against
loud noises.

I can move my ears backwards, like a cat flattening them to ready
itself for fighting only mine don't go so far as theirs. When I do
this there is a "train-in-a-tunnel" like noise. Is that what you mean?

Probably not. It really is a rumble, so I don't think it sounds like a
train in a tunnel. More like a highly attenuated form of thunder.

I'm jealous: my ears are fixed. No, not repaired, just immobile :-)


I've played guitar for decades. The G-string occasionally is the
hardest for me to tune by ear when plucking the string and forcing me to
rely on striking a common harmonic note on that string and an adjacent
string. When the string finally hits the correct pitch as the
corresponding string harmonic, a very distinct and brighter and
vibratory tone results and audible to the ear.

Unfortunately, now when ever I see a g-string my ears ring and stand to
attention! g


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....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On 23/10/2014 8:05 AM, ...winston‫ wrote:
Unfortunately, now when ever I see a g-string my ears ring and stand to
attention! g

It's not usually the ears that stand to attention when most men see a
g-string. Still - whatever floats your boat :-)))

--
Bob Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

Wife - a woman who has ceased to be your girlfriend but resents anyone
trying to fill the vacancy.

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 01:45:08 +0100, John wrote:

One thing (among many) I can't do is raise an eyebrow in isolation. I
would like to learn how to do this one.

I can raise my left eyebrow alone, but not the other one; I can raise
both simultaneously.

I can sneer on the left side of my mouth, but not the right side.

Why is this subthread happening? :-)

When I'm conscious, my prosthetic lenses are assumed to be part of my
eyes and I'm quite protective of my eyes. When not quite conscious, I
am always aware of their position - the lenses not the eyes

When I plan to leave the computer, I will replace the computer glasses
by the regular ones, but if I then spend a moment doing something else
(such as, oh, replying to you), I will somehow manage to swap my glasses
again, only to realize I can't see properly.

It's amazing what I do to entertain myself...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 01:25:04 +0100, John wrote:

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:39:49 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 01:45:08 +0100, John wrote:

One thing (among many) I can't do is raise an eyebrow in isolation. I
would like to learn how to do this one.

I can raise my left eyebrow alone, but not the other one; I can raise
both simultaneously.

I can sneer on the left side of my mouth, but not the right side.

Why is this subthread happening? :-)

Usually me.
Sorry.

Well, I'm having a modicum of fun, so don't be sorry on my account.

When I'm conscious, my prosthetic lenses are assumed to be part of my
eyes and I'm quite protective of my eyes. When not quite conscious, I
am always aware of their position - the lenses not the eyes

When I plan to leave the computer, I will replace the computer glasses
by the regular ones, but if I then spend a moment doing something else
(such as, oh, replying to you),

Probably best to avoid that, it can cause things.

True. Maybe I should be more careful :-)

I will somehow manage to swap my glasses
again, only to realize I can't see properly.

Try varifocals? They are cool when you move your attention from close
to far but keep the line of sight through the lenses. Everything swims
and bubbles and warps for a few microns. Then the brain sorts it all
out and flattens the world.

I hate them. Also, the computer specs are single focus, so I don't have
to tilt my head to look in the corner of the screen. Actually, for me,
bifocals would sort of work, except my screen viewing distance is not
the same as my reading distance.

It's amazing what I do to entertain myself...

I do *NOT* want to know.
J.

Well, it's not too drastic, at least on this occasion. I was referring
(possibly facetiously) to the inadvertent spectacle swap.

And yes, it *does* occur to me that you didn't even want to know that
:-)

I just heard on the radio a couple of days ago, by no means for the
first time, that "facetiously" is a word in which the English vowels
appear once each in alphabetical order (in the English version of the
alphabet, of course).

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 01:28:59 +0100, John wrote:

My thoughts along those lines seem to relate mainly to what were then
girls that I would like to relate to now :-)

Anyone I was at school with could not be described, now, as a "girl".
Old Age Pensioner, perhaps. If any survive, which is statistically
unlikely.

I was careful to say "what were then girls"...

To call them girls today would be rather euphemistic, but maybe not as
ugly as saying "n years young" for values of n = 63.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:44:50 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:


I just heard on the radio a couple of days ago, by no means for the
first time, that "facetiously" is a word in which the English vowels
appear once each in alphabetical order (in the English version of the
alphabet, of course).


Nah, you probably heard that about "facetious," not "facetiously." g