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Old October 25th 14, 07:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:05:18 +0100, Bob Henson
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Equally interesting (to me, anyway) is the letter "thorn" in old
English. The old runic letter came to be written as "Y" - so "ye old
inn" was actually pronounced "the old inn" at the time, and eventually
came to be written as the digraph that we know now.



Yes, I always pronounce that "ye" as "the." Probably 99% of those who
name their stores like that think I'm wrong and it should be "ye."
They don't realize it's a thorn, not a "y." Come to think of it, most
of them probably don't realize there ever was a thorn.

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Old October 25th 14, 10:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:59:39 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

It's strange that there are cases when more than one person can hear the
noise supposedly comming from a sufferer's inside brain. Sound waves have
long ranges, as we can listen to radio music comming from long distances.


Nobody but me has ever heard my tinnitus.

What you are talking about is external noise...which is just *not* the
same thing.


Yesterday I was sitting around listening to my tinnitus (no excuse!) and
had the idle thought that what I wrote above is kind of insufficient.

I should have pointed out that tinnitus is *not* actual sound, it's a
perception in the subject's mind caused by nerves that are firing
without outside input, i.e., sending spurious signals.

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Old October 25th 14, 10:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:12:01 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:46:11 +0100, Bob Henson
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On 24/10/2014 9:13 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:


But if you include "y" as a semi-vowel, you should also include "w."
So it should be "facetiouslwy," but as far as I know. there's no such
word. g


There probably is in Welsh - it's a strange language produced largely by
taking the vowels out of English words and replacing them with "Y"s. :-)
My favourite place name in Wales is Ynysybyl - where all four "y"s are
pronounced differentlwy. Something like "Unissable.


As I said earlier, the word "vowel" really refers to a sound, not a
letter.


And as I said a bit after that, my dictionary disagrees with you. As do
I.

So Welsh doesn't take out vowels, it just sometimes uses
different letters to represent them. Yes, "y" is common, but so is
"w." My favorite word is "crwth," pronounced "crooth." And by the way,
our name for that letter--double-you--more accurately describes its
sound in Welsh than in English.

Of course many languages use glyphs other than English letters to
represent them; a few examples are Russian, Greek, Arabic, and Hebrew.
So Welsh really isn't strange or unusual in that regard. As far as I'm
concerned, what's strange about Welsh is that it uses the same letters
we do, but some of them are pronounced very differently.


Many languages use the same alphabet (or at least the same letters) we
do to represent different sounds than we do. At least some letters,
sometimes many, represent different sounds than the English letters,
including sounds not found in English (even ignoring the added
diacritics)...

Just a few examples: junta or zarzuela in (Castilian) Spanish, peur in
French, Somogy and csardas in Hungarian (both a's have long marks, which
look like French acute accents).

The Spanish 'j', the French 'eu', and the Hungarian 'gy' represent
non-English sounds.

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Old October 25th 14, 10:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:29:45 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:12:01 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:46:11 +0100, Bob Henson
wrote:

On 24/10/2014 9:13 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:


But if you include "y" as a semi-vowel, you should also include "w."
So it should be "facetiouslwy," but as far as I know. there's no such
word. g


There probably is in Welsh - it's a strange language produced largely by
taking the vowels out of English words and replacing them with "Y"s. :-)
My favourite place name in Wales is Ynysybyl - where all four "y"s are
pronounced differentlwy. Something like "Unissable.


As I said earlier, the word "vowel" really refers to a sound, not a
letter.


And as I said a bit after that, my dictionary disagrees with you. As do
I.



Sorry, I missed that. But I knew someone would disagree. However
that's my view, and I'm sticking with it! g

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Old October 26th 14, 08:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Bob Henson wrote:
On 23/10/2014 8:05 AM, ...winston‫ wrote:
Unfortunately, now when ever I see a g-string my ears ring and stand to
attention! g


It's not usually the ears that stand to attention when most men see a
g-string. Still - whatever floats your boat :-)))


I went out earlier today. Saw and played with a dozen different
g-strings. The painted lady employee was very helpful eventually
providing me, from her perspective, some well-heeled advice - blow up my
tv and throw away my pc.

Nothing I saw or touched was worth parting with a few George Washington's.

Apparently I'll have to visit a few other guitar shops before something
stands out worthy of my standards.


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Old October 26th 14, 06:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:58:16 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:29:45 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:12:01 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:46:11 +0100, Bob Henson
wrote:

On 24/10/2014 9:13 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

But if you include "y" as a semi-vowel, you should also include "w."
So it should be "facetiouslwy," but as far as I know. there's no such
word. g


There probably is in Welsh - it's a strange language produced largely by
taking the vowels out of English words and replacing them with "Y"s. :-)
My favourite place name in Wales is Ynysybyl - where all four "y"s are
pronounced differentlwy. Something like "Unissable.

As I said earlier, the word "vowel" really refers to a sound, not a
letter.


And as I said a bit after that, my dictionary disagrees with you. As do
I.


Sorry, I missed that. But I knew someone would disagree. However
that's my view, and I'm sticking with it! g


Put up your dukes!

Obviously we're both right :-)

Later I looked in three other dictionaries. All said exactly what I
quoted from mine, except that one of them added 'w' to the list, right
next to 'y'.

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Old October 26th 14, 06:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 01:01:27 +0100, John wrote:

A couple of years ago, a niece turned up at my front door. She was
taller than me and quite woman-shaped. I gave her the
blank-but-friendly stare of a man wishing to know her purpose. She
gave me her name. More blank looks. Then she offered her relationship
to me. That worked.
My problem was that the last time I had ever seen her was when she
weighed about a kilo and was about the size of a fist. She had changed
somewhat in the intervening years.


Not so long ago (I thought), I also saw a young lady of my acquaintance
when she massed about a kilo. Next year she'll be going to college.

I have the advantage over you that her parents are part of my social
circle, so the changes have been too gradual to notice except on those
occasions when one stops to reflect.

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