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SSD upgrade, worth it or not?
Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast
because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill |
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On 9/9/2015 8:23 AM, Ken1943 wrote:
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:45:20 +0100, "Kenny" wrote: Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill Performance in what respect ? Booting, starting programs and things like that. You may or may not notice a difference. My desktop is much faster with an ssd. How much ram and can that be increased ? Increasing the amount of memory always and still is the first thing to look at. Another thing to look at is how many junk programs are running. Ken1943 many of the laptops have a slow processor and video system. Sort of ok for anything but many games. |
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Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill Acer should be allowing you access to some support. What you're describing certainly is NOT typical of Acer devices... Most likely a RAM thing... could easily be your 3rd-party anti-virus or firewall. SSD has drawbacks... like degradation over time and usage. Before you take that leap, I'd suggest you uninstall any 3rd-party AV and/or firewall and go with Windows firewall and Defender for a time. Be sure to clean out caches and defrag... Also, double check your video drivers to insure you're as up to date as practical. SSD would be the last place I'd go simply for performance speed issues. HTH. -- I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and, It's like Yogi Berra always used to say: "The future ain't what it used to be!" http://tinyurl.com/ocnqvgq |
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"Kenny" wrote:
Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? You should accept the fact that you've been a victim and an SSD will significantly improve speed. I can't imagine anybody buying a modern computer without an SSD. You are your own victim. Good luck. |
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Kenny schreef op 9/09/2015 om 13:45:
Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill For sure, it will be significantly faster with an SSD. -- Carpe Diem "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert Einstein). |
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Samsung PRO (note: PRO not EVO) Pro is about 20% more but look
on line for some great deals. I bought mine at a retail store but they honored the on line price. Support your brick and mortar if they will support you! (1) Depends on the PC chip set. e.g. my laptop runs at 50% of full SSD speed capability due to the chip set. This was confirmed by the Samsung Magician app. (2) 10 year warranty. (3) Extreme power consumption reduction. Battery powered is much extended. Improvement depends on your PC hardware setup and the Win power settings. (4) An SSD sticker to apply to a visible part of the PC is include to improve your bragging rights. lol And yes, even at 50% of speed capability, it is likably faster. But for me it was a nightmare to clone since the Samsung provided software did not work! I used EaseUS Partition Master Free to adjust my source partition before the clone. I used Macrium Reflect Free v6 (with intelligent clone) to do the clone. Once I did the clone and installed the SSD into the laptop, I booted a few times doing cleanup and then I ran Samsung Magician (it work this time but not on the first few attempts) to "optimize" (whatever Samsung means by that). Note: Magician is a different app than the Samsung Clone app. Good luck! HTH |
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SSD upgrade, worth it or not?
Kenny wrote on 9/9/2015 7:45 AM:
Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill I got a cheap 120G for about $50 US a year ago so it wasn't that big of a deal. I did see a nice improvement, nothing like I've been told, of course I did not shop for quality, but for price. SSD is not an SSD, it's not that simple. But as others have said, the video, memory, and bloatware can all degrade your performance. I did that Microsoft rating thing they show on the 'my computer' properties window and my video card on a desktop was trashing my system. Bought a new card and got much better rating. Of course you can't do that with a laptop but the point is there. I like the cleanup and memory ideas first. Then if you have more money than brains, but the drive. PS, I also bought a CD drive caddy to hold the old 500G hd and removed my cd/dvd drive. So now I have two drives in the laptop, one SSD and one spinner. A nice option. |
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Kenny wrote:
Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill Many people find their boot time is faster. But lots of other stuff leaves them unimpressed. The OS file system design is a bottleneck, and there is a limit to how many context switches per second the file system seems to be willing to do. Don't be surprised if some file operations (tree traversal) still happen at 200 files per second, even though the device has a 100,000 IOPS rating. So far, I bought one SSD, and returned it the next day. I didn't even benchmark it when I first got it. I tried to just use it, and noticed immediately something was wrong with it. It's write performance was only as "good as a hard drive". I tried an ATTO benchmark, which reported 500MB/sec at 64K block size (proving the SATAIII cable was OK). I formatted NTFS with 64K clusters, and did transfers, and the results did not match ATTO at all. The drive was typically doing maybe 110MB/sec reads (on a SATAIII port). And the type of data stored in a sector, seemed to be determining the read-out speed. So I returned it and got my money back. http://i59.tinypic.com/5ze0sh.jpg So in the picture there, I did a Secure Erase (to reset the thing), using the provided Toolbox for the drive. I did 10GB of random writes, 10GB of zeros, and alternated. Then ran HDTune to look at the whole disk performance. The random data results, were the same kind of results I saw when I tried to do a backup to the new SSD (treat it as a data drive). When I saw the backup running slowly, that's when I decided I needed to benchmark it. And it didn't look all that impressive then. Paul |
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On 09/09/2015 07:45, Kenny wrote:
Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill I can only speak from experience on My kids inspiron dell laptop. I would intel i3 processor.His HD died I replaced it with pny ssd 240 gb. The laptop was almost twice as fast.The kid said it never work as good before.On My desktops the speed increase is very noticable. I would have to recommend SSD. |
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Thanks for all the replies. I am fairly fastidious about maintenance ie:
cleanup, malware, AV, startup apps, defrag, removing Acer crap etc. This is my 2nd identical laptop, first returned to Argos because of issues with Miracast/WiDi and Bluetooth. Acer support no help at all, their stock answer is format and reinstall no matter what the problem is! I am waiting for my Win 10 upgrade and considering a clean install on an SSD but concerned that other factors will still degrade performance. Another thing with Acer is that I must use their drivers, Intel drivers won't work. Kenny "Dino" wrote in message ... On 09/09/2015 07:45, Kenny wrote: Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill I can only speak from experience on My kids inspiron dell laptop. I would intel i3 processor.His HD died I replaced it with pny ssd 240 gb. The laptop was almost twice as fast.The kid said it never work as good before.On My desktops the speed increase is very noticable. I would have to recommend SSD. |
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SSD upgrade, worth it or not?
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:45:20 +0100, "Kenny" wrote:
Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill When you first got it did it seem fast before you started adding and removing stuff? What seems slow about it? Surfing, spreadsheets, opening programs, encoding movies, graphics programs or ???? |
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On Wed, 09 Sep 2015 12:45:20 +0100, Kenny wrote:
Bought this Acer laptop only a few months ago, thought it would be fast because it has a 4 core Intel i5 CPU and have been very disappointed with performance. Been toying with the idea of fitting a 250GB SSD (c£75) hoping to speed it up but unsure if the benefit is worth the expense. My thinking is that maybe then the onboard graphics, chipset etc. would still be a bottleneck. Should I just accept that I've been the victim of Acer hype and faster HDD may not significantly improve speed? Kenny Cargill Every pc I've put an SSD into it has been an upgrade. From my lowly TurionX2 laptop using a SATA1.5 interface to my 965BE with a SATA3 interface. Every time it was an upgrade. I LOVE SSD's ever sense I got my first 60gb Plextor. I'll never go back to spinners. Spinners are good for two things. Media storage and backups. |
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