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Old November 25th 19, 09:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat that, too?
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Old November 26th 19, 12:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

Cameo wrote:
I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat that,
too?


I could find this for Chrome, but you just know they'll have
more methods than this up their sleeve.

https://developers.google.com/web/to...de/geolocation

Paul
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Old November 26th 19, 12:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

On 25/11/2019 21:22, Cameo wrote:
Chrome location would probably provide my true location in EU. Is
there a way to defeat that, too?


Sure there is always a way to defeat anything in this world. Look at
that heist in Dresden Green Vault in eastern Germany that is most
guarded place in Germany but they still managed to shut down almost
everything including traffic lights, electricity and alarm system.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50545003

What amazes me is that there are people of with less intelligence who
still insists on using VPN in countries where dictatorship had never
existed. Even Spain & Italy are is democratic countries. No more
Mussolini or Franco. I don't know what these nutters are worried
about. It could be that they are members of Epstein's inner circle
abusing young girls & boys so clearly they should be worried about it.
Otherwise, the easiest way to defeat anything is to start living a
normal life like most us law abiding citizens on this planet.





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Old November 26th 19, 01:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

On 2019-11-25, Cameo wrote:
I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat that, too?


A surefire way to defeat Chrome location is to use Mozilla Firefox instead.

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Old November 26th 19, 02:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

On 25 Nov 2019, Cameo wrote
(in article ):

I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat that, too?


Don’tuse Chrome. Use Brave. Or Vivaldi. Or Firefox. Or... there are a _lot_
of alternatives. Brave is faster than Chrome talking to the same sites via
the same network and on the same hardware, and _doesn’t_ blab your
location.

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Old November 26th 19, 02:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

On 26/11/2019 14:06, Wolffan wrote:
Don’tuse Chrome. Use Brave. Or Vivaldi.


And be an idiot like you. How many people still use those fringe
browsers. You must be the most stupid person among your friends. I'm
surprised they didn't knife you. Stupid people should be wiped out
completely in this world.

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Old November 26th 19, 04:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 11/26/2019 1:10 AM, Paul wrote:
Cameo wrote:
I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat
that, too?


I could find this for Chrome, but you just know they'll have
more methods than this up their sleeve.

https://developers.google.com/web/to...de/geolocation


** Paul


Thanks, Paul. That seems to have done the trick. Of course I don't know
how long, but I keep my fingers crossed. What is not clear to me though
whether from now on I'll have to set the location coordinates there
manually, even to the true position, or it will reset itself somehow
with a certain operation, like reboot. I wish it would work similarly to
VPN location setting. It's not a complaint because I can live with it as
it is. Finally I can watch US live TV in Europe and damn the time
difference!

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Old November 26th 19, 06:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 09:06:11 -0500, Wolffan
wrote:

On 25 Nov 2019, Cameo wrote
(in article ):

I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat that, too?


Don’tuse Chrome. Use Brave. Or Vivaldi. Or Firefox. Or... there are a _lot_
of alternatives. Brave is faster than Chrome talking to the same sites via
the same network and on the same hardware, and _doesn’t_ blab your
location.


I've often thought with a pint of Abby Ale, and some Vivaldi on the
stereo, cares seem to melt away.

That's just two of the Holy Trinity. (wine, women and song)

Hulu? Who needs it? Curl up with a good book.
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Old November 26th 19, 08:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

In article ,
default wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 09:06:11 -0500, Wolffan
wrote:

On 25 Nov 2019, Cameo wrote
(in article ):

I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat that, too?


Don’tuse Chrome. Use Brave. Or Vivaldi. Or Firefox. Or... there are a _lot_
of alternatives. Brave is faster than Chrome talking to the same sites via
the same network and on the same hardware, and _doesn’t_ blab your
location.


I've often thought with a pint of Abby Ale, and some Vivaldi on the
stereo, cares seem to melt away.

That's just two of the Holy Trinity. (wine, women and song)

Hulu? Who needs it? Curl up with a good book.


If you had said (as I was expecting you were going to) "Curl up with a good
woman", then you would, indeed, have all 3.

What I find amusing in this thread is that usually, on any online forum,
when somebody is trying to do something illegal (as is clearly the case
here), everybody gets all hyper and sanctimonious about it, telling them
not to even think about posting online about such things. Why has that not
happened here?

Why the double standard???

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Old November 26th 19, 10:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 20:13:29 -0000 (UTC),
(Kenny McCormack) wrote:

In article ,
default wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 09:06:11 -0500, Wolffan
wrote:

On 25 Nov 2019, Cameo wrote
(in article ):

I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat that, too?

Don’tuse Chrome. Use Brave. Or Vivaldi. Or Firefox. Or... there are a _lot_
of alternatives. Brave is faster than Chrome talking to the same sites via
the same network and on the same hardware, and _doesn’t_ blab your
location.


I've often thought with a pint of Abby Ale, and some Vivaldi on the
stereo, cares seem to melt away.

That's just two of the Holy Trinity. (wine, women and song)

Hulu? Who needs it? Curl up with a good book.


If you had said (as I was expecting you were going to) "Curl up with a good
woman", then you would, indeed, have all 3.


In my case I would, but from what I see around me, others seem less
fortunate in their choice of mates. One has to kiss a lot of frogs to
find a prince/princess.

What I find amusing in this thread is that usually, on any online forum,
when somebody is trying to do something illegal (as is clearly the case
here), everybody gets all hyper and sanctimonious about it, telling them
not to even think about posting online about such things. Why has that not
happened here?

Why the double standard???


Politicians set the bar too low. We have what, in effect, is a
corporate oligarchy. They, by example, have proven time and again,
that anything you can get away with is legal.

I suspect those that cloak themselves in righteous indignation, are
themselves the most egregious offenders. How many politicians and
religious leaders, have been caught doing exactly what they rail and
rant against? Hypocrisy breeds cynicism.

If you want to lead, you must be out in front.
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Old November 26th 19, 11:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 26/11/2019 14:06, Wolffan wrote:




Don’tuse Chrome. Use Brave. Or Vivaldi.
And be an idiot like you. How many people still use those fringe browsers. You must be the most stupid person among your friends. I'm surprised they didn't knife you. Stupid people should be wiped out completely in this world.


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Old November 26th 19, 11:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 17:35:00 +0100, Cameo wrote:

Thanks, Paul. That seems to have done the trick. Of course I don't know
how long, but I keep my fingers crossed. What is not clear to me though
whether from now on I'll have to set the location coordinates there
manually, even to the true position, or it will reset itself somehow
with a certain operation, like reboot. I wish it would work similarly to
VPN location setting. It's not a complaint because I can live with it as
it is. Finally I can watch US live TV in Europe and damn the time
difference!


Dunno whether it will work in your case, where I note Paul already provided
a solution that worked, but for the record, for others to benefit, the
Opera and Epic Chromium-based browsers both have proxies that "might" work.
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Old November 27th 19, 08:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article ,
default wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 09:06:11 -0500, Wolffan
wrote:

On 25 Nov 2019, Cameo wrote
(in article ):

I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat that, too?

Don’tuse Chrome. Use Brave. Or Vivaldi. Or Firefox. Or... there are a _lot_
of alternatives. Brave is faster than Chrome talking to the same sites via
the same network and on the same hardware, and _doesn’t_ blab your
location.


I've often thought with a pint of Abby Ale, and some Vivaldi on the
stereo, cares seem to melt away.

That's just two of the Holy Trinity. (wine, women and song)

Hulu? Who needs it? Curl up with a good book.


If you had said (as I was expecting you were going to) "Curl up with a good
woman", then you would, indeed, have all 3.

What I find amusing in this thread is that usually, on any online forum,
when somebody is trying to do something illegal (as is clearly the case
here), everybody gets all hyper and sanctimonious about it, telling them
not to even think about posting online about such things. Why has that not
happened here?

Why the double standard???


Copyright infringement on the Internet is considered as a "minor" issue by
most. For example, the vast majority of the global Game of Thrones audience
was bootlegged copies.

However, in this instance is using a VPN strictly illegal? I'm not so sure.
There are regulatory reasons why channels don't choose to be streamed
outside their country, but for a larger audience of course they would.
Towns and cities near borders can view both countries' TV so there's a
precedent.

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Old November 27th 19, 12:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Are VPNs getting useless against geo-restricted services?

In article , Chris wrote:
Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article ,
default wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 09:06:11 -0500, Wolffan
wrote:

On 25 Nov 2019, Cameo wrote
(in article ):

I just tried a free subscription to Hulu and it wants me to enable the
location service in the Chrome browser. Apparently Hulu got smart and
does not rely on the US IP provided by the VPN. Chrome location would
probably provide my true location in EU. Is there a way to defeat that, too?

Don’tuse Chrome. Use Brave. Or Vivaldi. Or Firefox. Or... there are a _lot_
of alternatives. Brave is faster than Chrome talking to the same sites via
the same network and on the same hardware, and _doesn’t_ blab your
location.

I've often thought with a pint of Abby Ale, and some Vivaldi on the
stereo, cares seem to melt away.

That's just two of the Holy Trinity. (wine, women and song)

Hulu? Who needs it? Curl up with a good book.


If you had said (as I was expecting you were going to) "Curl up with a good
woman", then you would, indeed, have all 3.

What I find amusing in this thread is that usually, on any online forum,
when somebody is trying to do something illegal (as is clearly the case
here), everybody gets all hyper and sanctimonious about it, telling them
not to even think about posting online about such things. Why has that not
happened here?

Why the double standard???


Copyright infringement on the Internet is considered as a "minor" issue by
most. For example, the vast majority of the global Game of Thrones audience
was bootlegged copies.

However, in this instance is using a VPN strictly illegal? I'm not so sure.
There are regulatory reasons why channels don't choose to be streamed
outside their country, but for a larger audience of course they would.
Towns and cities near borders can view both countries' TV so there's a
precedent.


In case it wasn't clear, my point was that I don't think it is the business
of online forum commentators to police other people's morality.

Just answer the question (on a technical basis) or move on.

(Yes, I realize this point is subtle. Don't bother flaming me until you
actually understand what is being said.)

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Old November 27th 19, 12:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 27/11/2019 12:37, Arlen Holder wrote:

Wolffan (~BD~ sock)


You are completely wrong about that, Arlen!

Have another try at who/what he is.
 




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