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Is there some add-on that will allow viewing website videos on Win XP
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Fred wrote:
Is there some add-on that will allow viewing website videos on Win XP Pro. For Firefox for ??? Some videos play some say I do not have the right video player. And no, I am not buying a new PC to fix this ! Thanks. Make sure you're using the latest version of FF for XP, which is version 52.9. But even with version 52.9 (which I'm also using), you're still going to have this problem with Firefox due to its age. The HTML5 stuff, et al, is evolving. You can resolve this problem by using Chrome (version 49, the last version for XP), which works well most of the time. But I think even its days are numbered - for this. Of course, this is also assuming you don't mind using Chrome and its nuances. :-) I find it somewhat ironic that the thing that will ultimately force some of us to upgrade to a new OS may simply be the web browser limitations on different web sites. But until that day arrives, I'm still using and loving XP :-) (I still haven't gotten use to the "idiosyncracies" of Windows 7) |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:42:19 -0800, Fred
wrote: Is there some add-on that will allow viewing website videos on Win XP Pro. For Firefox for ??? Some videos play some say I do not have the right video player. And no, I am not buying a new PC to fix this ! Thanks. You can just load 7 or 10 to fix it but I haven't done it yet. I do have a disk sitting here. I will be adding another drive to load it on so I can keep both. I have too much software I don't want to throw away yet and reloading it on 7 might not work anyway. |
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Fred wrote:
Is there some add-on that will allow viewing website videos on Win XP Pro. For Firefox for ??? Some videos play some say I do not have the right video player. And no, I am not buying a new PC to fix this ! Thanks. Generally, we would attempt to download the video, then play in VideoLAN "VLC Player" program. There is a very high probability of playing a video that way. People have their favorites, and there are others like Media Player Classic and so on. How do you download a video ? Youtube-DL is one way. It is a command line program, you point it to a web page, and it dumps information about what formats are available. For example, it works with my local TV news station web site. The pestilent web site "wraps" videos in a god-awful wrapper that prevents all three browsers from playing the video. (My third browser is technically able to play the video, but no browser can digest the wrapper, which is improperly coded and has been broken for a couple years.) Youtube Downloader ("youtube-dl") can grab the file and then I can play it in VLC. But it's a damn nuisance. The cat videos would have to be pretty good for me to bother doing that. ******* If you wanted native playback in the web browser, you'd need a plugin for the format. This might require collecting several plugins. If the video pane is wrapped (HTML5 wrapper), then it's going to be back to the "your browser isn't modern enough" garbage situation. So to a first order approximation, if we went back say seven years, we'd use a regular browser and an Adobe Flash plugin to play .flv. Now, the web has various HMTL5 formats, Adobe is on the way out, and now we need a new browser, something WinXP is not going to get. You can test your current browser for compliance, with this web page. https://www.youtube.com/html5 HTMLVideoElement H.264 Webm VP8 Media Source Extensions MSE&H.264 MSE&WebM VP9 So that basically tells you that a modern browser might benefit from H.264 support, VP8 support, and VP9 support. This article is an example of turning on support in Firefox 34 or so. That's for cases where Mozilla had it turned off. It looks like you might get five of six tests to pass, and the "MSE&H.264" might still be broken. https://www.ghacks.net/2014/07/25/en...fox-right-now/ And right now, my copy of SRWare Iron (which is based on Chrome 49 suitable for WinXP), all six squares are enabled. Any Chrome-a-like should also be using the last version of Chromium source code suitable for WinXP, and that might be version 49. Chrome itself won't run on WinXP today, and is probably around version 70 or so. A WinXP user is stuck with version 49, warts and all. You can try following some of the links on this page, but there's no guarantee any of them have a version suited to a WinXP user. Ones I recognize are SRWare Iron, Opera, and Vivaldi. My copy of Opera doesn't do well on the Youtube test, but maybe they've fixed that by now. Brave is advertising supported (not tested, not interested). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers Chromium * SRWare Iron * Torch * Cốc Cốc * Comodo Dragon * Brave * Ecosia * Epic * RockMelt (discontinued) * Google Chrome (based on Blink since Chrome v. 28) * Opera * Microsoft Edge for Android * qutebrowser (Blink backend mostly stable) * Amazon Silk * Sleipnir * Vivaldi * Yandex Browser * Puffin Browser * Redcore Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Fred wrote: Is there some add-on that will allow viewing website videos on Win XP Pro. For Firefox for ??? Some videos play some say I do not have the right video player. And no, I am not buying a new PC to fix this ! Thanks. Generally, we would attempt to download the video, then play in VideoLAN "VLC Player" program. There is a very high probability of playing a video that way. People have their favorites, and there are others like Media Player Classic and so on. How do you download a video ? Youtube-DL is one way. It is a command line program, you point it to a web page, and it dumps information about what formats are available. For example, it works with my local TV news station web site. The pestilent web site "wraps" videos in a god-awful wrapper that prevents all three browsers from playing the video. (My third browser is technically able to play the video, but no browser can digest the wrapper, which is improperly coded and has been broken for a couple years.) Youtube Downloader ("youtube-dl") can grab the file and then I can play it in VLC. But it's a damn nuisance. The cat videos would have to be pretty good for me to bother doing that. ******* If you wanted native playback in the web browser, you'd need a plugin for the format. This might require collecting several plugins. If the video pane is wrapped (HTML5 wrapper), then it's going to be back to the "your browser isn't modern enough" garbage situation. So to a first order approximation, if we went back say seven years, we'd use a regular browser and an Adobe Flash plugin to play .flv. Now, the web has various HMTL5 formats, Adobe is on the way out, and now we need a new browser, something WinXP is not going to get. You can test your current browser for compliance, with this web page. https://www.youtube.com/html5 HTMLVideoElement H.264 Webm VP8 Media Source Extensions MSE&H.264 MSE&WebM VP9 So that basically tells you that a modern browser might benefit from H.264 support, VP8 support, and VP9 support. This article is an example of turning on support in Firefox 34 or so. That's for cases where Mozilla had it turned off. It looks like you might get five of six tests to pass, and the "MSE&H.264" might still be broken. https://www.ghacks.net/2014/07/25/en...fox-right-now/ And right now, my copy of SRWare Iron (which is based on Chrome 49 suitable for WinXP), all six squares are enabled. Any Chrome-a-like should also be using the last version of Chromium source code suitable for WinXP, and that might be version 49. Chrome itself won't run on WinXP today, and is probably around version 70 or so. A WinXP user is stuck with version 49, warts and all. You can try following some of the links on this page, but there's no guarantee any of them have a version suited to a WinXP user. Ones I recognize are SRWare Iron, Opera, and Vivaldi. My copy of Opera doesn't do well on the Youtube test, but maybe they've fixed that by now. Brave is advertising supported (not tested, not interested). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers Chromium * SRWare Iron * Torch * C?c C?c * Comodo Dragon * Brave * Ecosia * Epic * RockMelt (discontinued) * Google Chrome (based on Blink since Chrome v. 28) * Opera * Microsoft Edge for Android * qutebrowser (Blink backend mostly stable) * Amazon Silk * Sleipnir * Vivaldi * Yandex Browser * Puffin Browser * Redcore Paul Wasn't sure what you meant by "Chrome doesn't run on Windows XP". ??? Chrome version 49 runs on XP, but it's the last version that does so, and is probably his (and my) best bet, unless he wants to go to the trouble of downloading the videos, and then using VLC (or whatever player) as you suggested. The nice thing about VLC is it has its own built in codecs, too. Thanks for posting that h264 hack for FF, too! I had forgotten that I had done that patch, and it just might help him, even though it takes a few minutes to get it set it up properly. |
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Bill in Co wrote:
Wasn't sure what you meant by "Chrome doesn't run on Windows XP". ??? The current version of Chrome (70 or so). If you went to some Chrome download website and it "sniffed" your browser OS version, it would tell you no version was available. When Version 49 would work if you could find a copy. This requires some ferreting work on the part of the user, to find a version that does work. Download sites seldom ever do the right thing by users. Keeping WinXP running and delivering positive experiences requires lots of ferret work. If you're not good at digging up old versions of stuff, you're not going to be very happy. Now, this is the way to serve software, even if the user has no idea what version they want. At least they're all here :-) http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Bill in Co wrote: Wasn't sure what you meant by "Chrome doesn't run on Windows XP". ??? The current version of Chrome (70 or so). If you went to some Chrome download website and it "sniffed" your browser OS version, it would tell you no version was available. When Version 49 would work if you could find a copy. This requires some ferreting work on the part of the user, to find a version that does work. Download sites seldom ever do the right thing by users. Keeping WinXP running and delivering positive experiences requires lots of ferret work. If you're not good at digging up old versions of stuff, you're not going to be very happy. Now, this is the way to serve software, even if the user has no idea what version they want. At least they're all here :-) http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ Paul I must be a good ferret. (I kinda assumed everybody else here was too). I've gotten really used to it, since I generally prefer the older and less bloated versions of most software. That said, I was *forced* to upgrade both FF and Chrome to the latest versions for XP since the older versions just aren't cutting it anymore on several web sites. |
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In message , Paul
writes: [] formats are available. For example, it works with my local TV news station web site. The pestilent web site "wraps" videos in a god-awful wrapper that prevents all three browsers from playing the video. (My third browser is technically able to play the video, but no browser can digest the wrapper, which is improperly coded and has been broken for a couple years.) [] By broken, I assume you mean broken for the browsers that run in XP. (Which I agree is still broken - a mere wrapper shouldn't need _anything_ special.) If it's really been a couple of years (or if it's broken for 7 and later), have you told them? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Have you ever heard about a petition, disagreed with it, but been frustrated that there's no way you can *show* that you disagree? If so, have a look at https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/232770 - and please pass it on if you agree, especially to twitter, facebook, gransnet/mumsnet, or any such forum. "The right to be heard does not include the right to be taken seriously." - Hubert H. Humphrey |
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