Win XP to Win 10 Program transfer?

I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !

On 5/26/2016 12:20 PM, Dave C wrote:
I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !

It is my understanding there use to be something like that for Windows,
but it is not available in Windows 10.

Personally I like to do a clean install on the new computer for all of
the programs, letting the Operating System establish the best conditions
for the programs and gets rid of the garbage build in the old program
folder.

As for file transfer, there are many ways to do that. If you are using
Mozilla products Thunderbird etc you can use Mozback to transfer the
profile form the old computer to the new.

If she has access to a LAN, she can use the File Explorer and transfer
her data directories from the old computer to the new computer by
copying and pasting.

I believe the best way of transferring data from the old computer to the
new computer is to use the Disk drive of the old computer. If you go
down to the computer store, you can find disk enclosures for both laptop
drives or desktop drives. These enclosures are cheap $10 to $30. You
basically put the old drive in to the enclosure and connect to the new
computer with USB port. Here are some examples

http://www.staples.com/usb+drive+enc...e%20enclosures

Using this method you can transfer the data to the new computer at your
leisure. If you want to rearrange the folder structure you make the new
structure and copy the data into the folders in the new structure. You
do not have to worry about possible data corruption with the transfer
program.

The upside of this is once you have the files on your new computer, you
have usable back up disk drive. Once you are sure you have every thing
from the old drive, you can reformat to remove the old OS and other
unnecessary files, and have a decent size drive for a primary or
secondary back up disk.

The more backups the safer your data. There are many free backup
programs available that make backups a couple of clicks.
I use Synback Free.

On 26/05/2016 17:20, Dave C wrote:
I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !


you need the original disks and serial numbers. Once you have got them,
you just install them in the normal way on your new machine.

After that, you need to transfer the old data files to your new
computer. This is best done by copying them on removable flash drive
and using this drive on your new machine and copying them back.
Alternatively, you could copy these data files on to Microsoft,s One
Drive and then this can be accessed on your new machine by logging in to
your Microsoft Account.




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On 26/05/2016 18:08, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/26/2016 12:20 PM, Dave C wrote:
I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !

It is my understanding there use to be something like that for
Windows, but it is not available in Windows 10.

Your understanding is defective. The transfer program on Windows (XP,
Vista, 7 and 10) is to transfer the files and SETTINGS only. They don't
transfer applications.

Personally I like to do a clean install on the new computer for all of
the programs, letting the Operating System establish the best
conditions for the programs and gets rid of the garbage build in the
old program folder.

I agree with you here.


As for file transfer, there are many ways to do that. If you are
using Mozilla products Thunderbird etc you can use Mozback to transfer
the profile form the old computer to the new.

No I don't agree this. the best way is to copy the folder from the old
machine and copy it back on the new machine like I have done here for
Thunderbird:

Copy Mozilla folders
http://content.screencast.com/users/JT19560819/folders/Jing/media/cd256634-b143-4e24-a32d-4d8e63cf1832/2016-05-26_1817.png

And for Firefox it is like this:

Firefox
http://content.screencast.com/users/JT19560819/folders/Jing/media/52299c0c-66a0-4b9d-856b-ca9c2ac9df0c/2016-05-26_1819.png



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Dave C wrote:

I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !

For many simpler programs, you can just copy the executable file (and
whatever else may be in its directory). But for more complex programs,
you'll need to dig out the installation media and run that on the new
machine.

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tim at risingdove dot com

On Thu, 26 May 2016 12:20:53 -0400, Dave C wrote:

I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !



It depends on the program, but in general the answer is no. Except for
a few simpler programs, they are not simply exe files, but they also
have many needed files and references to them, in the registry and
elsewhere. So just transferring the exe files doesn't work.

So she may have a simple program or two where just transferring the
exe file works, but for the great majority of programs she will have
to reinstall the programs from their original media. It usually isn't
even worth the trouble of trying to find programs where just
transferring will work; she should reinstall them all from their
original media.

And by the way, this has nothing to do with going from XP to 10. The
same point holds if you go from any Windows machine to another one,
even if the two are running the same version of Windows.

Dave C wrote:
I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !

The history:

FAST - File and Settings Transfer wizard.

WET - Windows Easy Transfer

Laplink - On Win10, Microsoft licensed a version of Laplink
Version is free for usage by Windows users.

All of the above only transfer the home directory.
They are not intended to move programs. So when you
find a solution that is free, it doesn't move programs.
It's mainly for moving user data.

*******

A paid version of Laplink may support migration.
It takes hours to run. No guarantees on what
happens when doing so.

You would prepare a backup image of the Win10 PC
before running such a tool. Try the migration.
It costs money for this one. There are no guarantees
on the accuracy of the transfer.

http://www.laplink.com/index.php/ind...ature-overview

There are two reviews on this page, or perhaps
check Amazon and see if anyone wrote a real review
for it there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832300024

"Marginally better than just reinstalling everthing

Pros: About 50% of applications where successfully transferred

Cons: Half of applications did not transfer successfully;
data files had to be transferred manually
(without using PCMove); technical support is the worst
in the buinsesss
"

People tend to have strong opinions, when they spend
big money on stuff like this. The transfer would
have to be virtually perfect, to get a good review.

There is likely to be some other migration program
besides that one, but since a useless version
of Laplink came with Win10, their name came to
mind right away. Which is why they made this
deal with Microsoft. For the advertising.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplink_PCmover

http://www.zinstall.com/products/zinstall-vs-pcmover

Paul

"Dave C" wrote in message
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I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !

There are several programs that can transfer installed programs from one pc
tp another , I cannot vouch for their efficacy.

Here is one for example
http://www.easeus.com/free-pc-transf...-computer.html

MJP

On 26/05/2016 23:00, MJP wrote:


"Dave C" wrote in message
...

I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !

There are several programs that can transfer installed programs from
one pc
tp another , I cannot vouch for their efficacy.

Here is one for example
http://www.easeus.com/free-pc-transf...-computer.html


MJP

Frankly, if the OP is prepared to install third-party software for
stupid things like this then he might do something like in this article:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-upgrade-windows-xp-windows-10-free-without-data-loss-1514624

Takes time but David C is our resident troll going by various nyms ~BD~,
David B etc etc He also stalks people on these newsgroups and he is
fascinated by people knowing too much about Windows. He personally
doesn't use Windows but his hobby is technologies and stalking so you
have him here.




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On Thu, 26 May 2016 23:00:29 +0100, "MJP"
wrote:

There are several programs that can transfer installed programs from one pc
tp another , I cannot vouch for their efficacy.



I've tried several similar programs in the past (but not that one). In
my experience they work with some program installations and fail on
others. So I recommend staying away from them, or at the most, giving
them a try, but being prepared to reinstall from the original media
should that be necessary (as it often is).

On 27/05/2016 12:20 AM, Dave C wrote:
I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !

Just keep the hard disk of the XP unit intact! COPY files over to the
new unit, NOT moving them.

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On 05/26/16 09:20, Dave C so wittily quipped:
I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

I suggest cancel the order, and get a machine with 7 pro on it instead.
The process will most likely be EASIER, and just make sure it doesn't
download "KB3035583" (aka 'GWX' the "up"grade coercion utility)

as for transferring, it may be best to bite the bullet and just
re-install whatever you need on the new machine. copy data files onto a
USB stick [your new backup] and THEN copy them onto the new machine when
it's up to speed.

(In my opinion, OLDER programs are more likely to be compatible with 7
than with Win-10-nic)

It can take the better part of a day to do this, depending on what you
have installed.

On 05/26/16 14:52, Wolf K so wittily quipped:
Reinstall, but using original media will work only with programs that
Win10 can run, and after installation they will have to be updated,
which entails additional hassle, and sometimes cost. Win 10 will not run
programs written for 8-bit or 16-bit machines.

uh, I don't think there are any 8 bit windows machines...

but yeah, 16-bit won't work in 64-bit 7, either.

the danger here is having to PURCHASE NEWER VERSIONS because the old
stuff won't run on 10.

and yeah, don't wipe the old hard drive until your data files are backed
up AND transferred to the new box.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 message ac8ekb981sops3ovk1j6ttrpth512p1c5e@4a
x.com, Thu, 26 May 2016 12:20:53, Dave C posted:

I am hleping a friend, whom will soon retire an XP unit, and has on
order a new Win 10 PC.

Is there a procedure, whereby she can "migrate" / transfer (not sure
of the proper tech term) her existing XP programs to her new Win 10
unit? If yes, it sure would ease her transisition !

Note that

(1) There are "minor" programs which do not need any installing, just
copying to a suitable location and arranging how to start them. Don't
assume that everything will need to be installed.

(2) There are things which you might not think of as programs, but which
act as programs. At least some of these run in browsers, as HTM, HTML
etc. pages or as HTA pages[*].

(3) Windows Scripting Host code should I think transfer, unless any OS-
specific stuff is used.

(4) Expect the worst, but do not rely on it!
[*] For example I have a JavaScript file which can be run as command
prompt CScript or included in an HTA file - it is an enhanced version of
DIR, more or less.


P.S. Ask her, and see, what she actually uses, and ask whether she in
each case can recall how it got there.

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