How do I keep image of win7 from (re)activationg

How do I keep image of win7 from (re)activationg?

Maybe I should ask if this is a problem.

I want to make an image of win7 in another partition on the same
computer, but it seems to me it might report back to Microsoft and one
of two situations will occur:

a) If the image was made before install was activated in the
original, the copy would also be unactivated and it would try to
activate itself, as would the original at some time, so wouldn't MS
get mad and maybe deactivate both of them?

b) If the original from which the image was was already activated,
the copy would also be activated, but it would stlll report to MS and
MS would get mad that there were two partitions with the same Key. And
deactivate both of them?


Assuming either of these, or something similar I havent' thought of
yet, could be a problem, what's the best or easiest or most easily
reversible way to stop Windows from contacting the outside world.

How about disabling the network adapter?

OTOH, I had such an unusually hard time connecting to the net that
maybe disabling that would be hard to reverse, and maybe there is
something like stopping the Activation Service -- I just made that up,
and come to think of it, if people could do that, everyone would do
that so they could run unlicensed clones. But something other
ideas, please.

Micky wrote:

How do I keep image of win7 from (re)activationg?

Maybe I should ask if this is a problem.

I want to make an image of win7 in another partition on the same
computer, but it seems to me it might report back to Microsoft and one
of two situations will occur:

a) If the image was made before install was activated in the
original, the copy would also be unactivated and it would try to
activate itself, as would the original at some time, so wouldn't MS
get mad and maybe deactivate both of them?

b) If the original from which the image was was already activated,
the copy would also be activated, but it would stlll report to MS and
MS would get mad that there were two partitions with the same Key. And
deactivate both of them?


Assuming either of these, or something similar I havent' thought of
yet, could be a problem, what's the best or easiest or most easily
reversible way to stop Windows from contacting the outside world.

How about disabling the network adapter?

OTOH, I had such an unusually hard time connecting to the net that
maybe disabling that would be hard to reverse, and maybe there is
something like stopping the Activation Service -- I just made that up,
and come to think of it, if people could do that, everyone would do
that so they could run unlicensed clones. But something other
ideas, please.

Micky,
If it's an image and not a clone of your Windows7 installation then it
cannot activate until the image is restored.
What program did you use to "Image" Windows7?
Most imaging programs create a single file that contains all of the
files needed to restore your system but is not functional in that state.
If it is a "Clone" then I would suggest disconnecting the ethernet
cable to prevent activation.

JT
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On 02/08/2016 02:40, JT wrote:
If it's an image and not a clone of your Windows7 installation then it
cannot activate until the image is restored. What program did you use
to "Image" Windows7? Most imaging programs create a single file that
contains all of the files needed to restore your system but is not
functional in that state. If it is a "Clone" then I would suggest
disconnecting the ethernet cable to prevent activation. JT


Micky is a known troll using various Nyms like OG, PJP, Old Guy, Dave B,
DaveC, FredW and others.

Just search for Micky (or Micly Mouse) and you'll see his stupid
question on all the newsgroups - Windows XP, Woindows7, Windows8, and
Windows10. I won't be surprised if he has also posted on Linux
newsgroups as well.

We get all sorts here.



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On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 01:40:16 +0000 (UTC), "JT"
wrote:

Micky wrote:

How do I keep image of win7 from (re)activationg?

Maybe I should ask if this is a problem.

I want to make an image of win7 in another partition on the same
computer, but it seems to me it might report back to Microsoft and one
of two situations will occur:

a) If the image was made before install was activated in the
original, the copy would also be unactivated and it would try to
activate itself, as would the original at some time, so wouldn't MS
get mad and maybe deactivate both of them?

b) If the original from which the image was was already activated,
the copy would also be activated, but it would stlll report to MS and
MS would get mad that there were two partitions with the same Key. And
deactivate both of them?


Assuming either of these, or something similar I havent' thought of
yet, could be a problem, what's the best or easiest or most easily
reversible way to stop Windows from contacting the outside world.

How about disabling the network adapter?

OTOH, I had such an unusually hard time connecting to the net that
maybe disabling that would be hard to reverse, and maybe there is
something like stopping the Activation Service -- I just made that up,
and come to think of it, if people could do that, everyone would do
that so they could run unlicensed clones. But something other
ideas, please.

Micky,
If it's an image and not a clone of your Windows7 installation then it
cannot activate until the image is restored.

Oh, sorry, then I meant clone. That will save time if there is ever
a disaster with the other one.

What program did you use to "Image" Windows7?

Haven't done it yet. I wanted to do it today, but now I'm shooting
for tomorrow. Maybe Macrium Reflex. Maybe XXClone.

Most imaging programs create a single file that contains all of the
files needed to restore your system but is not functional in that state.
If it is a "Clone" then I would suggest disconnecting the ethernet
cable to prevent activation.

I can't easily do that because it's on the same HDD as the one I'm
using. I could get up and unplug it every time I wanted to test the
clone partition, and then get up and reconnect it every time I go back
to the original one, but it's a bunch of effort and eventually I will
make a mistake. There must be other ways to keep from connecting.

JT

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 03:08:04 +0100, Good Guy
wrote:

On 02/08/2016 02:40, JT wrote:
If it's an image and not a clone of your Windows7 installation then it
cannot activate until the image is restored. What program did you use
to "Image" Windows7? Most imaging programs create a single file that
contains all of the files needed to restore your system but is not
functional in that state. If it is a "Clone" then I would suggest
disconnecting the ethernet cable to prevent activation. JT


Micky is a known troll using various Nyms like OG, PJP, Old Guy, Dave B,
DaveC, FredW and others.

Those are lies. I'm not known as a troll, and I've never used any of
those names.

Just search for Micky (or Micly Mouse) and you'll see his stupid

I might have once made a joke about Micky Mouse, but no more than
that. An implied lie.

question on all the newsgroups - Windows XP, Woindows7, Windows8, and
Windows10. I won't be surprised if he has also posted on Linux

Another lie. I've never posted on a windows 8 or windows10 ng. I
don't even know if there is a win8 ng, and I only heard about the
win10 ng a month** ago and have no reason to post there.

And every question I asked on XP and 7 were serious questions. Maybe
your highness knew the answers to some of them but I wasn't certain of
any of them, and with a few, I needed background.

**It may have been posted here more than a month ago, but until the
last 10 days, I only read 2% of the posts here. I was going to read
all the ones here dealing with upgrading to win10, but before I could
this ng crashed twice for me, and the second time I had to start over
from scratch. You can read the thread I started about that in the
Forte Agent ng. After the second time I ran out of time and will and
only read 5 or 10 of those 100's of posts.

newsgroups as well.

We get all sorts here.

Yes we do. And your posts are consistently sarcasm, bickering, or
hostility. You are the troll.

On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 03:30:56 -0400, Micky
wrote:


What program did you use to "Image" Windows7?

Haven't done it yet. I wanted to do it today, but now I'm shooting
for tomorrow. Maybe Macrium Reflex. Maybe XXClone.

Actually, I'm most likely to use both, and see which one is a better
experience. I have 3 empty partitions as big as the win7 one, two of
them primary, and I still have room for a data partition.

XXClone's whole function is to clone** and Macrium Free will both
image and clone.

**I'm thinking of buying it because I've used XXCopy and XXClone free
quite a bit and I like them. But the free version of XXClone only
does full backups, not incremental ones. Although come to think of
it, Macrium free does differential backups which I would think are
better than incremental? Which do you prefer?

On 8/2/2016 12:30 AM, Micky wrote:
On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 01:40:16 +0000 (UTC), "JT"
wrote:

Micky wrote:

How do I keep image of win7 from (re)activationg?

Maybe I should ask if this is a problem.

I want to make an image of win7 in another partition on the same
computer, but it seems to me it might report back to Microsoft and one
of two situations will occur:

a) If the image was made before install was activated in the
original, the copy would also be unactivated and it would try to
activate itself, as would the original at some time, so wouldn't MS
get mad and maybe deactivate both of them?

b) If the original from which the image was was already activated,
the copy would also be activated, but it would stlll report to MS and
MS would get mad that there were two partitions with the same Key. And
deactivate both of them?


Assuming either of these, or something similar I havent' thought of
yet, could be a problem, what's the best or easiest or most easily
reversible way to stop Windows from contacting the outside world.

How about disabling the network adapter?

OTOH, I had such an unusually hard time connecting to the net that
maybe disabling that would be hard to reverse, and maybe there is
something like stopping the Activation Service -- I just made that up,
and come to think of it, if people could do that, everyone would do
that so they could run unlicensed clones. But something other
ideas, please.

Micky,
If it's an image and not a clone of your Windows7 installation then it
cannot activate until the image is restored.

Oh, sorry, then I meant clone. That will save time if there is ever
a disaster with the other one.

What program did you use to "Image" Windows7?

Haven't done it yet. I wanted to do it today, but now I'm shooting
for tomorrow. Maybe Macrium Reflex. Maybe XXClone.

Most imaging programs create a single file that contains all of the
files needed to restore your system but is not functional in that state.
If it is a "Clone" then I would suggest disconnecting the ethernet
cable to prevent activation.

I can't easily do that because it's on the same HDD as the one I'm
using. I could get up and unplug it every time I wanted to test the
clone partition, and then get up and reconnect it every time I go back
to the original one, but it's a bunch of effort and eventually I will
make a mistake. There must be other ways to keep from connecting.

JT
I don't understand the problem.
If you have one computer with one OS at a time, the system can't tell
which CLONE you've booted and MS shouldn't know or care. I do it all
the time with clones on separate plug-in disks.

If you can figger out how to boot it, it shouldn't be a problem.

The key lies in the reason you think you need a clone. If it's on the
same drive, it won't protect you from virus, disk failure or stupid
mistakes.

I tried multi-booting with BCDedit or GRUB or PLOP. Always ended up having
some issue or other with one OS wanting to wrench control
of the boot process from the other OS and making it unbootable.
If you install each OS with ONLY ONE drive installed, they
happily coexist and can be booted individually...until grub gets
updated and overrides all your hard work keeping
them separate.

I have a hard drive mounted in the system and a second plug-in one.
Boot order is set for plug-in first. If it's not plugged in,
the internal drive boots. The plug-in drive can be a clone,
a different windows OS or linux. And nobody has to fight over
who controls the boot process, the BIOS does.

One thing you have to watch out for is that the disk letters
can get interleaved when you have two drives installed.
Have to go into disk management and reorder them when the
plug-in is running. Distinctive disk labels make that easy
to do. You only have to do it once.

But that still won't protect me from stupid mistakes or malware.
A full system backup of every disk stored offline does that.
And it can be restored in about 10 minutes. The only reason I need
a clone is if I want different configurations (post clone).

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How do I keep image of win7 from (re)activationg?

Maybe I should ask if this is a problem.

I want to make an image of win7 in another partition on the same
computer, but it seems to me it might report back to Microsoft and one
of two situations will occur:

a) If the image was made before install was activated in the
original, the copy would also be unactivated and it would try to
activate itself, as would the original at some time, so wouldn't MS
get mad and maybe deactivate both of them?

b) If the original from which the image was was already activated,
the copy would also be activated, but it would stlll report to MS and
MS would get mad that there were two partitions with the same Key. And
deactivate both of them?


Assuming either of these, or something similar I havent' thought of
yet, could be a problem, what's the best or easiest or most easily
reversible way to stop Windows from contacting the outside world.

How about disabling the network adapter?

OTOH, I had such an unusually hard time connecting to the net that
maybe disabling that would be hard to reverse, and maybe there is
something like stopping the Activation Service -- I just made that up,
and come to think of it, if people could do that, everyone would do
that so they could run unlicensed clones. But something other
ideas, please.

Do it the two times but make them more than 120 days apart