Dealing with Spam

Because I was receiving a large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and in
the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid" after my
email address.
For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent to my
correct email address.
It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid" and
getting my email address.
What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email address to
avoid this?
Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of blocking
the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?

Blair

It works, except the spammer uses a system to alter their
sending address, by-passing the simple block. You need a
proper mail scanning program that looks at the sender,
subject and even the content of the email and sorts it into
folders. Looks for "spam filters" on Google.


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"Blair" wrote in message
...
| Because I was receiving a large amount of Spam (I stupidly
had my proper
| email address in News groups) I decided to change my email
address and in
| the case of news groups I read that I should add the word
"invalid" after my
| email address.
| For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently
I have been
| getting on or two messages about my bank account and my
password sent to my
| correct email address.
| It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the
word "invalid" and
| getting my email address.
| What I would like to know is how should I have disguised
my email address to
| avoid this?
| Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a
facility of blocking
| the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?
|
| Blair
|
|

Blair" wrote in message
... Because I was receiving a
large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and in
the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid" after
my
email address.
For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent to
my
correct email address.
It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid" and
getting my email address.
What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email address
to
avoid this?
Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of blocking
the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?

Blair



Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail address are
defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address harvesting
software now know to remove these common disguises.
So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised address at
all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.


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"Blair" wrote in message
...
Because I was receiving a large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and in
the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid" after
my
email address.
For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent to
my
correct email address.
It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid" and
getting my email address.
What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email address
to
avoid this?
Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of blocking
the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?

Blair

"Blair" wrote in message
...

Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of blocking
the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?

Not really because spammers change their address frequently - sometimes
several times an hour or more.

I find the following two rules work reasonably well...

Move spam to folder X "except with your email address in the recipients
address".

and perhaps...

Move spam to folder Y "unless from contact"

Blair,
Take a look here;
'iHateSpam' (http://www.sunbelt-software.com/iHateSpam.cfm)
I Hate Spam. Have used it for years and am happy with the product.
Treeman


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Blair Malcolm
"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Blair" wrote in message
... Because I was receiving a
large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and
in
the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid"
after
my
email address.
For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent to
my
correct email address.
It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid"
and
getting my email address.
What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email
address
to
avoid this?
Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of
blocking
the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?

Blair



Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail address are
defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address harvesting
software now know to remove these common disguises.
So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised address at
all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.


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Regards,

Mike
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Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could not use any
address when posting to a news group.
I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.
Blair

I used to have Mailwasher which did delete all the Spam but I found that I
had about 100 per day and Mailwasher had to deal with this but it took time
and I had to check to see if any of my legitimate mail was included.
I then changed my address, discontinued Mailwasher and had a year without
any Spam until recently.
I am concerned if I go back to Mailwasher I might get a lot more Spam
Blair


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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It works, except the spammer uses a system to alter their
sending address, by-passing the simple block. You need a
proper mail scanning program that looks at the sender,
subject and even the content of the email and sorts it into
folders. Looks for "spam filters" on Google.


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The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"Blair" wrote in message
...
| Because I was receiving a large amount of Spam (I stupidly
had my proper
| email address in News groups) I decided to change my email
address and in
| the case of news groups I read that I should add the word
"invalid" after my
| email address.
| For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently
I have been
| getting on or two messages about my bank account and my
password sent to my
| correct email address.
| It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the
word "invalid" and
| getting my email address.
| What I would like to know is how should I have disguised
my email address to
| avoid this?
| Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a
facility of blocking
| the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?
|
| Blair
|
|

I just use a free yahoo account. They have a spam filter
that will stop a lot of the crap and eventually delete it.
Or you can always abandon it and get another.

gls858

Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could not use any
address when posting to a news group.
I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.
Blair


IN your newsgroup client just put in any old garbage. you may have to put an
@ symbol somewhere (e.g. ) in it but
most newsreaders do not check for a well formed or valid address.

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"Blair" wrote in message
...


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"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Blair" wrote in message
... Because I was receiving
a
large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and
in
the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid"
after
my
email address.
For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent
to
my
correct email address.
It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid"
and
getting my email address.
What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email
address
to
avoid this?
Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of
blocking
the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?

Blair



Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail address are
defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address harvesting
software now know to remove these common disguises.
So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised address at
all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.


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Regards,

Mike
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Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could not use any
address when posting to a news group.
I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.
Blair

I have 2 email accounts. One for bank and other restricted sites and one for
everyone else.

"Treeman" wrote:


Blair,
Take a look here;
'iHateSpam' (http://www.sunbelt-software.com/iHateSpam.cfm)
I Hate Spam. Have used it for years and am happy with the product.
Treeman


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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:09:03 +0100, Blair wrote:

Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could not use any
address when posting to a news group.
I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.

It depends. Some news servers require a valid email address. These are
usually news servers that you subscribe to (paid subscription). However
even these are now offering alternatives for their customers so that they
can avoid the spam deluge that results when posting with a real address.

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MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

In ,
Blair typed:


Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail
address
are defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address
harvesting software now know to remove these common disguises.
So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised
address at all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.

Regards,

Mike


Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could
not
use any address when posting to a news group.
I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.


You have to have an address, but it doesn't have to be a valid
one. What he means is don't do something as simple as inserting
the word "invalid" or "nospam" in your address, because the
E-mail harvesters just remove words like that automatically.

So instead of disguising your address, calling yourself
lid, use a completely false one,
something like

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Please reply to the newsgroup

"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Blair typed:


Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail
address
are defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address
harvesting software now know to remove these common disguises.
So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised
address at all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.

Regards,

Mike


Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could
not
use any address when posting to a news group.
I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.


You have to have an address, but it doesn't have to be a valid
one. What he means is don't do something as simple as inserting
the word "invalid" or "nospam" in your address, because the
E-mail harvesters just remove words like that automatically.

So instead of disguising your address, calling yourself
lid, use a completely false one,
something like

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Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Thanks. Someone is suggesting that certain ISPs require you to have a proper
address with an addition for security. Would this apply to Wanadoo?
Blair

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"Blair" wrote in message
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Blair typed:


Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail
address
are defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address
harvesting software now know to remove these common disguises.
So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised
address at all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.

Regards,

Mike


Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could
not
use any address when posting to a news group.
I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.


You have to have an address, but it doesn't have to be a valid
one. What he means is don't do something as simple as inserting
the word "invalid" or "nospam" in your address, because the
E-mail harvesters just remove words like that automatically.

So instead of disguising your address, calling yourself
lid, use a completely false one,
something like

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Thanks. Someone is suggesting that certain ISPs require you to have a
proper
address with an addition for security. Would this apply to Wanadoo?
Blair

In ,
Blair typed:

"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Blair typed:


Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail
address
are defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail
address
harvesting software now know to remove these common
disguises.
So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or
disguised
address at all in your configuration of your newsgroup
reader.

Regards,

Mike


Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I
could
not
use any address when posting to a news group.
I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.


You have to have an address, but it doesn't have to be a valid
one. What he means is don't do something as simple as
inserting
the word "invalid" or "nospam" in your address, because the
E-mail harvesters just remove words like that automatically.

So instead of disguising your address, calling yourself
lid, use a completely false one,
something like

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Thanks. Someone is suggesting that certain ISPs require you to
have a
proper address with an addition for security. Would this apply
to
Wanadoo?


You're welcome. Sorry, I don't know anything about wanadoo's
requirements.

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