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Got confirmation this morning my new "Christmas present for wife" TV was just shipped. Three days after placing online order with delivery date now the 22nd rather than the 19th site stated it would be. Given that's Friday and I'm rural area I suspect tv will not be here for Christmas morning. On top of that tv's description online does not mimic Sanyo's own website. Specifically Walmart states TV has a VGA Input yet Sanyo states nothing and pics show no such connection (should have checked before hand but trusted Walmart's description it's so plainly stated). I'm really ****ed that a company can mislead you in such a manner yet still end up with you vulnerable to them. Specifically they now have my credit card info and I have no means to compell them to delete it!!! I'm wondering what kind of issues I'm going to have while having fun demanding they compensate me for my time and effort because of their deceptions when I take the item back. Argh!!! |
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pjp wrote:
Got confirmation this morning my new "Christmas present for wife" TV was just shipped. Three days after placing online order with delivery date now the 22nd rather than the 19th site stated it would be. Given that's Friday and I'm rural area I suspect tv will not be here for Christmas morning. On top of that tv's description online does not mimic Sanyo's own website. Specifically Walmart states TV has a VGA Input yet Sanyo states nothing and pics show no such connection (should have checked before hand but trusted Walmart's description it's so plainly stated). I'm really ****ed that a company can mislead you in such a manner yet still end up with you vulnerable to them. Specifically they now have my credit card info and I have no means to compell them to delete it!!! I'm wondering what kind of issues I'm going to have while having fun demanding they compensate me for my time and effort because of their deceptions when I take the item back. Argh!!! Large companies have the option of commissioning the manufacture of "custom" versions of things. In some cases, it's just the SKU that is custom. They use different part numbers, to "prevent" price matching. If a company says "we will match a competitors price on this item", of course no other store (Target, Walgrens) is allowed to have exactly the same product number, so of course, there is no actual competition and they know it. A company will not announce price matching as a policy, unless they acquire custom SKUs for everything, so no price matching is possible by a consumer. Maybe it doesn't matter for dollar items, but for big ticket items like TV sets, having a custom SKU is an advantage. Especially if the feature set of the device is "radically different", like a color pre-processor board is missing or something and the item is $500 cheaper. ******* As for the name, Sanyo was acquired, and who knows where the name eventually ended up. When things like this happen, anyone with a few bucks can buy the trademark for their own purposes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanyo "By March 2012, parent company Panasonic plans to terminate the Sanyo brand, however it will remain on some of the products where the Sanyo brand still holds value to consumers." Paul |
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"pjp" wrote in message ... Got confirmation this morning my new "Christmas present for wife" TV was just shipped. Three days after placing online order with delivery date now the 22nd rather than the 19th site stated it would be. Given that's Friday and I'm rural area I suspect tv will not be here for Christmas morning. On top of that tv's description online does not mimic Sanyo's own website. Specifically Walmart states TV has a VGA Input yet Sanyo states nothing and pics show no such connection (should have checked before hand but trusted Walmart's description it's so plainly stated). I'm really ****ed that a company can mislead you in such a manner yet still end up with you vulnerable to them. Specifically they now have my credit card info and I have no means to compell them to delete it!!! I'm wondering what kind of issues I'm going to have while having fun demanding they compensate me for my time and effort because of their deceptions when I take the item back. Argh!!! If your Wallyworld is anything like the ones around here, good luck with any kind of compensation or satisfaction. You're just one little ****-ant in their great colony of Wallydrones, and they could surely care less if you come back to shop there or not. Bringing something back to them is enough to give anyone an attitude. It starts when you get in line and watch the DMV rejects behind the counter try to figure out what they owe you, and how to give it to you once they HAVE figured it out :-( I've just about given up shopping there except for about once a month for paper goods and certain groceries (the lower priced items than the ones I can get at my grocery store). I wish you luck. Let us know how it goes. If you want to vent, we are here for you :-) -- SC Tom |
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"pjp" wrote | I'm really ****ed that a company can mislead you in such a manner yet | still end up with you vulnerable to them. You really should check out the item at the manufacturer site first. Also, as Paul clearly detailed, you have to be careful about SKUs. Home Depot is a good example of that. They might sell a DeWalt jigsaw model T-12345 while other stores sell T-12344. HD's is a custom model. It won't be listed at DeWalt's site. No guarantees. Faucets are a good example of that. HD carries the best brands, like Delta or Moen. But they're not the same models that you'd buy at a plumbing supply: Hoses instead of copper tubing... Chrome-painted plastic instead of metal... There are a hundred ways to cut corners. And the model you buy today may not exist next month. You can avoid that by checking Sanyo for the exact SKU. But you're getting a good price, right? If you went to a local store and supported local business you'd probably pay a lot more. By giving business to Walmart, Costco, Amazon, etc, or by shopping online with those companies, you're supporting mega-chain-store takeover in exchange for cheaper prices. It's a deal with the devil. Eventually you won't even get cheaper prices. Eventually companies like Amazon and Walmart will have to get into the black -- once they've put the small companies out of business. You only have to look at Home Depot or CVS or Whole Foods to see how that strategy works in the long term. Prices go up. Pricing becomes arbitrary, based on computer predictions of what they can get away with. It's no longer a retail store buying items and reselling them for a reasonable profit. It's a computerized system that calculates what to charge and what to carry on a daily basis, with profit the only factor in those calculations. Walmart is famous for their extreme approach of setting up mega-stores and eliminating local commerce in large areas. I won't do business with them at all, on principle. Fortunately they also make that easy. My typical wardrobe is not especially fashionable, but it doesn't sink as low as standard Walmart fare of kiddie clothes for grown men: "Pre-stressed", oversized, cargo shorts to the calf, combined with a sleeveless sweathshirt festooned with a Spiderman logo, with matching chartreuse sneakers; all made in someplace like Malaysia because China is now too expensive due to the decreasing number of starving slaves available for their factories. |
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"pjp" wrote
| Unforetunately there's just too many things where Walmart is easiest. An | easy example is hubcaps for your car. You just know Walmart will have | something and it'll be way cheaper than even Canadian Tire let alone any | car shop or heaven forbid a dealership. I know what you mean. It's not easy to avoid chains. | What a resent is the fact an item is no longer priced by what it costs | to manufacture and bring to market but as already stated by another | capitalism's stated belief of charge whatever the market will bear which | equates to "be as greedy as you can get away with". | Yes. I think a lot of that is due to computerization. Prices change based on computer calculations. It's no longer a business run by an honorable merchant. It's a computerized gambling operation with the sole purpose of increasing profits. I've ended up buying things at Whole Foods based on sales because the prices vary so much. Last week organic Kanzi apples from WA were $2/#. This week it's $3. A 50% increase for the same apples from the same farms. Next week it will probably be $2 again. So this week I'm eating Opal apples. Yesterday I was in Staples.... Hey, 3 boxes of Kleenex for $5. Pretty good... No, wait. 3 boxes of Puffs for $5. 60 more tissues in 3 boxes. I'll get those.... I then walked down the aisle and found a separate rack: 4 boxes of Kleenex for $5. Wowza! Count me in! I half expected to see 12 boxes for $2.99 if I kept going. But $1.25/box seemed to be the best deal. So I moved on to USB sticks. 12 running feet of them on a rack about 5' high. 3 or 4 brands. Endless variations in terms of GB and packages. GB/$ was all over the place. It was madness. I can no longer get RAM or CPUs there, but there are some 60 sq. ft. of USB sticks. But I didn't buy one. I couldn't find any deal offering 4 packages for $5. |
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On 12/17/2017 12:45 PM, Mayayana wrote:
Endless variations in terms of GB and packages. GB/$ was all over the place. It was madness With USB drives there is an issue of quality that GB/$ does not compute. I shop by speed/GB/$ I've found 32g for 5$ but they only show 10mbs write speed. Then another for 12$ and it's more in the 50mbs range. Sometimes you pay for what you get. I agree with prev posts, a wooden canoe ore is a wooden ore. A gallon of bleach is a gallon of bleach. Some things you can easily compare. |
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"Big Al" wrote
| With USB drives there is an issue of quality that GB/$ does not compute. | I shop by speed/GB/$ I've found 32g for 5$ but they only show 10mbs | write speed. Then another for 12$ and it's more in the 50mbs range. | I didn't know that. I'll have to check next time. Though they all seemed to say USB3. And in many cases the prices were different for the same GB in the same brand. | I agree with prev posts, a wooden canoe ore is a wooden ore. A gallon | of bleach is a gallon of bleach. Some things you can easily compare. | Whoa. Not so quick. Bleach depends on the % of sodium hypochlorite. I find it can be anywhere in the range of 3-8, typically 4 or 5. The Clorox name brand may usually cost more, though even Clorox seems to have several strengths. I suppose 10 people would have 10 very different lists of products that are "all the same". My ladyfriend, an otherwise intelligent and reasonable person, will spend stunning amounts of money for various skin cremes that are all, essentially, mineral oil, water and an emulsifier. To me they're all the same. The only difference being whether a vegetable oil is used in place of mineral oil. That justifies a slightly higher price. But last time I checked in CVS, unit pricing for moisturizing cremes went as high as $2,600/ gallon. For mineral oil. Of course a given product may have a trace of Vitamin E, shea butter, or even placenta(!), but it basically just comes down to packaging and advertising mineral oil.... and how well they make a case for erasing wrinkles. Even my dermatologist falls for that. She recommended Amlactin cream to me. Crazy expensive stuff. Mineral oil. Secret ingredient: lactic acid. Probably about 5 cents worth of it. |
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Mayayana wrote:
"Big Al" wrote | With USB drives there is an issue of quality that GB/$ does not compute. | I shop by speed/GB/$ I've found 32g for 5$ but they only show 10mbs | write speed. Then another for 12$ and it's more in the 50mbs range. | I didn't know that. I'll have to check next time. Though they all seemed to say USB3. And in many cases the prices were different for the same GB in the same brand. Always check the Newegg reviews for a product, to see what real people record for transfer rates. Read Write Connector 20MB/sec 3MB/sec USB2 20MB/sec 3MB/sec USB3 --- the "Walmart special" 100MB/sec 10MB/sec USB3 ("poor quality", slow on write), Sandisk Ultra ? 220MB/sec 100MB/sec USB3 (Sandisk Extreme) Just because a USB stick doesn't even surpass USB2 rates, as long as the signals flow over the five contacts that the USB3 interface uses, it's a "USB3 stick". That's what the second entry in the table is meant to represent. They make such things. Nobody has any pride, when it comes to USB sticks. The USB2 connector has four contacts. The USB3 connector has nine contacts. Four contacts are USB2 pins. Five contacts are TX+,TX-,GND,RX+,RX- for the high speed USB3 pins. Usually the interfaces are mutually exclusive, and which interface is used is determine by negotiation. You can have a USB3 connector which uses only the USB2 pins for example. I have a "broken" 128GB USB3 stick here, where one of the five USB3 pins broke on the first day, and that stick runs permanently at USB2 rates (30MB/sec on reads). So it does happen, but isn't too common. Do *not* buy USB sticks with plastic barrels. Examine the product pictures and make sure the stick has a *metal* barrel. For USB3 sticks, the metal barrel prevents the contacts from getting damaged during insertion. The plastic barrel, when mixed with USB3 product, provides no protection at all, and is to be avoided. USB sticks are a lot like the produce section in your grocery store. You need to squeeze them, knock on the shell and listen for the sound, smell them to see if they're ripe... and so on :-) You can't just blindly buy one, because you'll be sorry later. ******* The Sandisk Extreme disappeared from the market for a number of months. My computer store has them again, at least at some capacity points. I've had to cook up other ideas to get a substitute hardware solution since they disappeared, and I could care less about them now :-) (Make your own USB3 stick using an SSD for storage...) https://www.sabrent.com/uploads/EC-S...-4-680x680.jpg (If you're in the business of making such things, *don't* show people how you terminated the wires. Ugh! The horror. Think of the data rates over that uncontrolled impedance section of wiring, the reflections, and so on. Those wires are supposed to be "short". I'm hoping this picture is intended to be a joke in bad taste.) ******* Patriot used to make some fast USB sticks. They used a quad channel design, and the USB stick was closer to having a square cross section. You couldn't plug two of those into the same USB stack for example. They were one of the first to do a decent solution. But other companies have caught up, perhaps by using toggle flash and just two channels instead of four. The single Sandisk Extreme stick I have here, is just a tiny fraction thicker than the Sandisk Ultra I also bought. Paul |
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"Paul" wrote
| Always check the Newegg reviews for a product, to | see what real people record for transfer rates. | | Read Write Connector | | 20MB/sec 3MB/sec USB2 | 20MB/sec 3MB/sec USB3 --- the "Walmart special" | 100MB/sec 10MB/sec USB3 ("poor quality", slow on write), Sandisk Ultra ? | 220MB/sec 100MB/sec USB3 (Sandisk Extreme) | ...... Thanks for all that info. I don't use them enough to be much concerned about speeds, but it's good to know. I had no idea there was such a range. |
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 20:27:26 -0400, pjp
wrote: At some point speed does matter. I have a few 64Gb Duracell branded flashdrives. Slowest drives I've ever experienced, under 3Mb/sec. Takes better part of a day (24 hr day) to fill the disk. On top of that I've had two just randomly go into write-protect mode with no way to undo that. Complete loss of data and all. Just junk and no way to know beforehand. I've got three left, they just sit on shelf unused they're so untrustworthy besides being so slow it's tedious to use them. I've seen Duracell-branded flash drives, as well as Polaroid-branded, and I've stayed away because I figure both of those companies have no interest in making such products. I imagine they were approached with a licensing offer - let us stick your name on these outstanding products in exchange for some money, except that the products are really crap. -- Char Jackson |
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Call Walmart customer service !
Ask if feature is really there ! if not, cancel order. It can be cancelled. I have never had a problem returning or rejecting from Walmart, target Lowes or anywhere else. In fact, just two weeks ago I had a problem with an order and the supplier, Lowes gave me a significant apology kick back to my cc and this on a significantly discounted Black Friday order. So quit whining and make the call. |
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