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Microsoft confirms that Microsoft Edge popup is just an experiment
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Microsoft confirms that Microsoft Edge popup is just an experiment
Justin Tyme wrote:
https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-co...an-experiment/ Ah, the joys of deliberately choosing to be an unpaid volunteered beta tester. That's what you are when you choose to register to enlist into the Insider community. The popup, according to the article, is something Microsoft is testing in their fast ring release schedule. https://insider.windows.com/en-us/how-to-overview/ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/change-t...eview-updates/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Insider If you want to be on the bleeding edge, well, then don't complain when you get cut. If you don't want to test their product with changes that may not get into the official release, don't be an Insider and instead stand outside waiting for what comes out the door. Not only do I not want the flaky and variable builds but I don't want them pushed to me until I'm ready (and why I disable the WU and BITS services until *I* decide to save an image backup and then do the updates). |
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Microsoft confirms that Microsoft Edge popup is just anexperiment
On 09/14/2018 10:48 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Justin Tyme wrote: https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-co...an-experiment/ Ah, the joys of deliberately choosing to be an unpaid volunteered beta tester. That's what you are when you choose to register to enlist into the Insider community. The popup, according to the article, is something Microsoft is testing in their fast ring release schedule. https://insider.windows.com/en-us/how-to-overview/ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/change-t...eview-updates/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Insider If you want to be on the bleeding edge, well, then don't complain when you get cut. If you don't want to test their product with changes that may not get into the official release, don't be an Insider and instead stand outside waiting for what comes out the door. Not only do I not want the flaky and variable builds but I don't want them pushed to me until I'm ready (and why I disable the WU and BITS services until *I* decide to save an image backup and then do the updates). But if it weren't for the bleeding edge testers, then it would not have been seen early and the yelling and complaining would not have hit Microsoft. And without the yelling it might have hit production. I'm not exactly sure it was a test. I have the strong feeling that was just a way to save face, "it was only a test and insider is our way to testing". Bull s**t. |
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Microsoft confirms that Microsoft Edge popup is just anexperiment
Big Al wrote:
On 09/14/2018 10:48 PM, VanguardLH wrote: Justin Tyme wrote: https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-co...an-experiment/ Ah, the joys of deliberately choosing to be an unpaid volunteered beta tester. That's what you are when you choose to register to enlist into the Insider community. The popup, according to the article, is something Microsoft is testing in their fast ring release schedule. https://insider.windows.com/en-us/how-to-overview/ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/change-t...eview-updates/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Insider If you want to be on the bleeding edge, well, then don't complain when you get cut. If you don't want to test their product with changes that may not get into the official release, don't be an Insider and instead stand outside waiting for what comes out the door. Not only do I not want the flaky and variable builds but I don't want them pushed to me until I'm ready (and why I disable the WU and BITS services until *I* decide to save an image backup and then do the updates). But if it weren't for the bleeding edge testers, then it would not have been seen early and the yelling and complaining would not have hit Microsoft. And without the yelling it might have hit production. It *is* hitting production. Read the article. I'm not exactly sure it was a test. I have the strong feeling that was just a way to save face, "it was only a test and insider is our way to testing". Bull s**t. ordinary users still the "are you sure prompt" and have to go to setting just make a non-edge browser the default. I thought windows had to enable users to get other browsers in an EU court order. When did that change? |
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Microsoft confirms that Microsoft Edge popup is just an experiment
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 06:59:17 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
ordinary users still the "are you sure prompt" and have to go to setting just make a non-edge browser the default. I thought windows had to enable users to get other browsers in an EU court order. When did that change? Just ignore any EU court orders. If necessary, leave the EU. |
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Microsoft confirms that Microsoft Edge popup is just an experiment
"Chris" wrote
| I thought windows had to enable | users to get other browsers in an EU court order. When did that change? | That was a 5 year agreement applying mainly to Win7. http://blog.gsmarena.com/microsoft-l...en-windows-eu/ The agreement was that MS had to actually show people the choices. The EU are no dummies about these things. They knew it would take that much. Allowing people to download a different browser would mean nothing. That was already possible. There's currently an online privacy law fight in California where tech companies are pushing a watered down version that specifies opt-out of surveillance rather than opt-in. That makes all the difference. Such a law will be meaningless because very few will even know they can opt out. But the public will hear about CA's new privacy law and it will *seem* like there's progress. Ditto for Jeff Bezos. Just when the public is finally catching on that Amazon is a nasty sweatshop, and Bernie Sanders has proposed a clever law that would tax large corporations for Federal services provided to employees, which he named after Bezos, Bezos called out the PR people and filled the headlines with news that he's starting a $2 billion fund to help needy people. Details? Well, not at this time. It may never even happen. He just wants to give conservatives ammo to oppose Sanders. (It's an interesting proposal. Sanders brought out stats showing how much Amazon employees end up using things like food stamps and Medicaid because they simply can't afford to survive on what Amazon pays them to be abused robots. Then Sanders suggested that companies with 500 employees or more be taxed for the exact amount of those services. It's a version of a living wage law, but emphasizes how much companies like Amazon cost the taxpayer. Rather than offer humane pay rates, Bezos has followed Bill Gates's lead and cooked up a philanthropy racket.) There was also an interesting course of events in '97 or so, when MS was in court about pushing IE and trying to thwart Netscape. MS lost. But the ruling applied to Win95. Meanwhile, MS had been working on Active Desktop behind the scenes. It was Bill Gates's famous plan to "cut off Netscape's air supply". They'd build IE right into the system, thus redefining what a browser is. So all the legal jostling amounted to nothing in the end. As I recall there was also a later case, where MS used AD to argue that IE couldn't be removed without breaking Windows. Maybe that was XP? I'm not sure. But I remember the judge himself managed to remove it. Fortunately, Microsoft shot themselves in the foot with that integration. It meant that some people couldn't update their browser without updating Windows, and updating IE at all was always a daring adventure because it replaced a lot of system files. I still can't get IE11 to install on Win7-64. I have no idea why. More importantly, it meant that IE was a wonderfully powerful and adaptable tool -- a work of genius, I'd say -- but too dangerous to take online, as it exposed Windows itself to unsafe running software in the form of such clever but risky things as ActiveX controls on webpages, BHOs, etc. Now they're using a similar strategy with Edge. In this case they can make a new case that they're renting a software package and Edge is part of that. It's a cloud-era version of cutting off everyone else's air supply. I suspect that's exactly what they will implement, eventually. And people in this group will have their usual low expectations: "Hey, the latest update won't allow anything but Edge. Well, at least I got the update. That's progress." |
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