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Old June 5th 19, 11:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Zaghadka
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Default Windows 1903 install blocked by BattlEye software

I don't know how or when the anti-cheat program BattlEye got on my
system, probably when I installed Insurgency at some point, but my
upgrade to 1903 came to a grinding halt because of it. Microsoft
considered my system to be completely incompatible with 1903 until it was
removed.

This is silliness. Who cares if some anti-cheat program stops working?
Why didn't it just let me dismiss a warning and install? Why the stoppage
instead?

Luckily, if you have this problem, Microsoft will direct you to an
uninstall program in the upgrade assistant, so you can destroy this
trivial incompatibility by uninstalling BattlEye.

You can also download it direct from BattlEye he

https://www.battleye.com/downloads/UninstallBe.exe

A note on the uninstaller. It doesn't give you any feedback. You run it,
it does its thing, and it is totally silent. It doesn't give you a
confirmation dialog. It doesn't even let you know if the double-click
registered.

But sure enough, after running it, 1903 installed without a hitch.

If I may editorialize at this point, if my Bluetooth is going to stop
working, I want a compatibility warning and an install stoppage. If my
game *might* stop working, I think a dismissable warning message with a
link to information is probably good enough, don't you?

But this is what feature installs are coming to. Microsoft isn't removing
incompatible programs during the install any more, it's just stopping the
install until the user fixes it.

This is likely thanks to users who complained about their incompatible
stuff getting uninstalled by previous feature updates. I offer those
people my heartfelt thanks. This is much better.

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spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten
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Old June 6th 19, 01:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Windows 1903 install blocked by BattlEye software

Zaghadka wrote:

I don't know how or when the anti-cheat program BattlEye got on my
system, probably when I installed Insurgency at some point, but my
upgrade to 1903 came to a grinding halt because of it. Microsoft
considered my system to be completely incompatible with 1903 until it was
removed.


BattleEye is not a Microsoft program.

This is silliness. Who cares if some anti-cheat program stops working?
Why didn't it just let me dismiss a warning and install? Why the
stoppage instead?


Since it always runs in the background (it's a startup program), yep, it
can interfere with an OS upgrade. It's not the only one.

If I may editorialize at this point, if my Bluetooth is going to stop
working, I want a compatibility warning and an install stoppage. If my
game *might* stop working, I think a dismissable warning message with a
link to information is probably good enough, don't you?


You're assuming the OS installer is intimate with how the BattleEye
background program works. Microsoft probably knows of the conflict and
why you got offered an uninstall path from Microsoft. It wasn't
BattleEye that told you about the conflict.

But this is what feature installs are coming to. Microsoft isn't removing
incompatible programs during the install any more, it's just stopping the
install until the user fixes it.


Because removing software would be highly corruptive to the use of the
computer. What if the conflict were a vertical tier commercial program
used for business? The OS update would suddenly destory a company's
asset, and do so intentionally. Apparently you were told what caused
the conflict, so YOU decide if you want the OS upgrade or you want to
keep the program which could be critical to your use of your computer.

This is likely thanks to users who complained about their incompatible
stuff getting uninstalled by previous feature updates. I offer those
people my heartfelt thanks. This is much better.


Any of the startup programs, including anti-virus, can conflict with an
OS upgrade. Go into Task Manager (or use a 3rd party tool, like
SysInternals AutoRuns) to disable the startup programs before doing an
OS upgrade. You're the admin. You should know what is running on your
computer.
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Old June 6th 19, 01:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 1903 install blocked by BattlEye software

On 05/06/2019 23:44, Zaghadka wrote:
I don't know how or when the anti-cheat program BattlEye got on my
system,

tl;dr

We know that you are in the habit of installing all sorts of crap on
your Windows 10 machine to make it look, feel and sound like Windows XP
so this might be one of the craps you must have installed.

There is evidence that you like installing anything that is free on the
net so perhaps you will leran something from this experience.

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Old June 6th 19, 06:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 1903 install blocked by BattlEye software

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 19:01:02 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, VanguardLH
wrote:

Because removing software would be highly corruptive to the use of the
computer. What if the conflict were a vertical tier commercial program
used for business? The OS update would suddenly destory a company's
asset, and do so intentionally. Apparently you were told what caused
the conflict, so YOU decide if you want the OS upgrade or you want to
keep the program which could be critical to your use of your computer.


Sure. Let's compare game software to commercial integration solutions.
Seems perfectly reasonable.

If it was eg: Bluetooth that was about to die, I would be grateful.

For game software, that has a hotfix update, the installer should just
remove it or update it and tell me that it did it. Throughout the history
of Windows 10 feature updates, the installer has *frequently* removed
incompatible programs. Even ones that work perfectly with the new OS.

I *am* the admin. I expect their feature update installers (really,
they're a full OS upgrade every 6 months) to stop being stupid (and
*long*) or I will change up my software eventually. It's becoming a
nuissance. I expect change and improvement, or I will go elsewhere.

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Old June 6th 19, 06:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 1903 install blocked by BattlEye software

Zaghadka wrote:

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 19:01:02 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, VanguardLH
wrote:

Because removing software would be highly corruptive to the use of the
computer. What if the conflict were a vertical tier commercial program
used for business? The OS update would suddenly destory a company's
asset, and do so intentionally. Apparently you were told what caused
the conflict, so YOU decide if you want the OS upgrade or you want to
keep the program which could be critical to your use of your computer.


Sure. Let's compare game software to commercial integration solutions.
Seems perfectly reasonable.


End users don't want their computers or their games to stop working,
either.

If it was eg: Bluetooth that was about to die, I would be grateful.


Apparently you hate Bluetooth. Other users love it.

For game software, that has a hotfix update, the installer should just
remove it or update it and tell me that it did it. Throughout the history
of Windows 10 feature updates, the installer has *frequently* removed
incompatible programs. Even ones that work perfectly with the new OS.


It's not Microsoft's job to update non-Microsoft software.

I *am* the admin. I expect their feature update installers (really,
they're a full OS upgrade every 6 months) to stop being stupid (and
*long*) or I will change up my software eventually. It's becoming a
nuissance. I expect change and improvement, or I will go elsewhere.


No, they want Microsoft to do your admin job.
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Old June 6th 19, 06:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Zaghadka
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Default Windows 1903 install blocked by BattlEye software

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 12:30:33 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, VanguardLH
wrote:

If it was eg: Bluetooth that was about to die, I would be grateful.


Apparently you hate Bluetooth. Other users love it.


Man, you are just arguing for the sake of argument now.

I already said "If the upgrade would kill my Bluetooth, I would want a
warning" in my OP. IF my Bluetooth were about to die as a result of the
upgrade, I'd be grateful for the warning and halting the upgrade until
drivers are released.

I'm not participating in a point-by-point argument for its own sake.

Go away.

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Old June 6th 19, 07:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 1903 install blocked by BattlEye software

Zaghadka wrote:

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 12:30:33 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, VanguardLH
wrote:

If it was eg: Bluetooth that was about to die, I would be grateful.


Apparently you hate Bluetooth. Other users love it.


Man, you are just arguing for the sake of argument now.

I already said "If the upgrade would kill my Bluetooth, I would want a
warning" in my OP. IF my Bluetooth were about to die as a result of the
upgrade, I'd be grateful for the warning and halting the upgrade until
drivers are released.


You said:

Luckily, if you have this problem, Microsoft will direct you to an
uninstall program in the upgrade assistant, so you can destroy this
trivial incompatibility by uninstalling BattlEye.

Seems that complies with both your requirements to halt the upgrade of
the OS as well of a warning for "Microsoft will redirect you".

I'm not participating in a point-by-point argument for its own sake.

Go away.


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