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OT? What has Firefox done. Unwanted synchronization
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 31 May 2019 18:54:40 -0400, micky
wrote: What has Firefox done? I just now closed it and reopened it and it wants an email address just to get to the Firefox data on this computer. It says this will synchronize all my devices, but I only have two of them and I don't want them synchronized. I did sign up for a Firefox account 18 months ago, to load data from another computer, and I used it once, 18 months ago. But I have no idea if that data is updated and it no longer has anything to do with any email address. Is there a way out of this? As you read, earlier in the thread, the problem went away. But then Firefox was slow so I restarted it and it did so totally without any existing profile. No tabs and I'm sure nothing else. Not even the search box to the right of the location box, and when I did a search in the location box or google.com, it only gave me about 5 choices for search engines instead of the 17 I'd set up. But I still used FF for an hour and opened about 6 tabs. But nothing related to the first 2-line paragraph at the top here. Adwcleaner said that it was necessary to reboot to complete quarantening so I did that, and today when I restarted, everything was back to normal, except: Adwcleaner still showed a box saying that I have to reboot, even though I just did. Macrium has been showing a box every 10 minutes saying an update is available. Sometimes I ignore it, sometimes I click on it, but it keeps coming back. OTher than this, everythign seems alright again. And it appears Adwcleaner fixed the problem (at least until I restart FF!) Thanks again, Paul. |
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OT? What has Firefox done. Unwanted synchronization
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 03 Jun 2019 07:52:43 -0400, micky
wrote: Macrium has been showing a box every 10 minutes saying an update is available. Sometimes I ignore it, sometimes I click on it, but it keeps coming back. OTher than this, everythign seems alright again. And it appears Adwcleaner fixed the problem (at least until I restart FF!) Thanks again, Paul. The Macrium box gave the name of the process that was causing it. macrium watchdog or monitor or something, so I ended that process. But it came back soon after. So I ended it and the other two macrium processes. How annoying the box was. It doesn't do macrium any good with me to annoy me. |
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OT? What has Firefox done. Unwanted synchronization
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 31 May 2019 18:54:40 -0400, micky
wrote: What has Firefox done? I just now closed it and reopened it and it wants an email address just to get to the Firefox data on this computer. It says this will synchronize all my devices, but I only have two of them and I don't want them synchronized. I did sign up for a Firefox account 18 months ago, to load data from another computer, and I used it once, 18 months ago. But I have no idea if that data is updated and it no longer has anything to do with any email address. Is there a way out of this? Follow-up. It seemed for a while that the problem was that when I closed FF, it wasn't fully closed. Even though it wasn't in the task bar in win10, and I think it wasn't in first section of the Task Manager list of processes, it might have been in the second section. When it offerred to close it, or I closed it with Task Manager, the next time Firefox opened correctly. But since then, I found a problem opening FF even after Windows had been closed and the computer turned off. The first time it had 3 tabs, one or two blank ones and one talking about new FF features. I tried over and over, opening it with the icon pinned to the taskbar which always worked in the past, closing it in between, closing it with the X in the upper right or with Task Manager. Task Manager said that 4 or 5 subtasks were open for FF, even I think in the past it was only 1. it wasn't right in that it had no tab with previous tabs, not bookmark bar, no right-hand search box, and it was surely missing history, bookmarks, etc, though I didn't check. Finally, while it was open and looking like that, I clicked on a link in Eudora and instead of opening a tab in the open window, it opened a new window that looked normal. Then I closed the first window and it's been fine since then (though I don't think I've closed it since then.) (5 subtasks, processes are open now, even though I have only 3 windows open, so I guess 5 is the new normal.) |
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OT? What has Firefox done. Unwanted synchronization
micky wrote:
(5 subtasks, processes are open now, even though I have only 3 windows open, so I guess 5 is the new normal.) Even when Firefox is "empty", "not doing anything", it has multiple processes open, and they communicate with one another via "named pipes". Part of the reason for this, is to provide a container for Flash content, so that if the Flash content crashes... the browser keeps running. It's also partially to compete with Chrome, as Chrome was using multiple processes too. I couldn't begin to guess where the number "5" comes from, but the number is adjustable in the preferences. You can actually set it higher. Like a chess game, the tasks could have roles, such as a King and a Queen and Three Pawns. And the adjustable number of tasks could mean more or fewer Pawns. There is presumably some minimal number for Electrolysis. It's also apparently possible to shut Electrolysis off and return to just one Firefox task. When you do that, if there is a Adobe Flash issue, then the browser could crash rather than "handle it". Or so the story goes. Watching with Task Manager, I was seeing excessive shutdown time as an issue with the new Firefox design. As programming patterns go, this isn't a popular pattern for Windows, and I've not heard of any infrastructure intended for the purpose. No "fork" as such, maybe no Process Groups ? On some OSes, you can kill at the PID level, but also killPG or kill an entire process group (which is good if there is a fork bomb running on the machine). In the case of Firefox, that would cause all five items to exit at the same instant in time, without a lot of ceremonies. Paul |
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