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Windows 10 is garbage
"Ken Blake" wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 20:30:59 +0100, "Apd" wrote: Seems to me that beyond W2k, as well as making improvements, they incrementally add more bloat. Perhaps some, but not a lot. And it's easy to turn most of it off. Turn off bloat? Turn off unwanted functionality, perhaps. And how about *complete* control of what data MS collects and how updates are managed. I read this group and also places frequented by IT professionals to see the kind of trouble people have with Win10. I hear mostly criticism of Win10 and Microsoft's People come here and to places like it to get help with their problems, not to tell us how wonderful Windows 10 is. I was thinking more of criticism from the people who give advice here and computer professionals elsewhere rather than users, although some users who don't need help are critical. behaviour. The difficulty or inability to configure the workings and appearance of the OS or to remove certain software components being examples. As far as I'm concerned, there's no great difficulty or inability. It's generally easy. "generally" might not be good enough. There's also the constant churn and breakage of existing functionality. Presumably, you've not been affected. |
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Windows 10 is garbage
Apd wrote:
"Ken Blake" wrote: People come here and to places like it to get help with their problems, not to tell us how wonderful Windows 10 is. I was thinking more of criticism from the people who give advice here and computer professionals elsewhere rather than users, although some users who don't need help are critical. It's not an advocacy group as such, because it doesn't have advocacy in the name. People criticize the stuff that costs them. For example, the interface could be a personal taste issue. Some like the appearance of the old interface, because they're more familiar with it. You're going to hear more criticism of stuff that's busted. For example, I spent/wasted a couple hours trying to back up W10-1903 C: drive. Macrium is normally a pretty high quality piece of software for this purpose (it will even back up EXT2/EXT3/EXT4). But Microsoft has been fooling around with the Volume Bitmap, even though the NTFS file system version is "frozen" at 3.1 and "the spec didn't change". But you'll soon discover they changing a lot of things under the hood and this has side effects. It broke Macrium and Macrium has been throwing "Error 9" on various versions of Windows 10. First it was the Insider Edition that wouldn't back up, and now it's spread to the 1903 on my "release" drive. I managed to get a 6.3.1685 version of Macrium about an hour ago, and now it's working again. When Microsoft fiddles with stuff, it costs third-party companies a lot of money. They drove the VirtualBox people crazy a while ago, when MS made some changes to some kernel file format. As you would expect, hosting software for virtual machines is "slightly intrusive", and there are a number of things the host does to a guest image to make it runnable. When a file format changes, the details have to be encoded in a new version of hosting software. When you see VirtualBox release software every two days, you know some poor bugger is up all night figuring out what Microsoft just changed and trying to keep up with "fresh releases" to cover it. In my opinion, the "rolling release" model is a disaster, because morons are running the show. If Sun Microsystems was running this project, it wouldn't be a mess like this! I have got to think that "ordinary users", you know, the "reference Grandma who is running Linux", they have got to be seeing this "Error 9" stuff and wondering what's going on. I suppose there would be a bigger commotion, if "you couldn't update Facebook" or something (then people would care). As that's all grandma uses the Windows 10 computer for (when she's not doing particle physics simulations). Paul |
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Windows 10 is garbage
"Paul" wrote:
Apd wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote: People come here and to places like it to get help with their problems, not to tell us how wonderful Windows 10 is. I was thinking more of criticism from the people who give advice here and computer professionals elsewhere rather than users, although some users who don't need help are critical. It's not an advocacy group as such, because it doesn't have advocacy in the name. Advocates are likely to keep quiet about or downplay any negatives. People criticize the stuff that costs them. It can also be for other reasons. For example, the interface could be a personal taste issue. Some like the appearance of the old interface, because they're more familiar with it. Exactly, so why don't MS allow a choice? You're going to hear more criticism of stuff that's busted. Sure. For example, I spent/wasted a couple hours trying to back up W10-1903 C: drive. Macrium is normally a pretty high quality piece of software for this purpose (it will even back up EXT2/EXT3/EXT4). But Microsoft has been fooling around with the Volume Bitmap, even though the NTFS file system version is "frozen" at 3.1 and "the spec didn't change". But you'll soon discover they changing a lot of things under the hood and this has side effects. It broke Macrium and Macrium has been throwing "Error 9" on various versions of Windows 10. [...] There's an example of them breaking something for no good reason. I believe NTFS was never fully documented but the least they could do is increase the version when changes are made. A software company then has a heads-up and existing products can fail gracefully if a version check is reliable. When Microsoft fiddles with stuff, it costs third-party companies a lot of money. Yes. [snip another example] In my opinion, the "rolling release" model is a disaster, Indeed; hence the title of this topic and my agreement with it. because morons are running the show. It does appear so. If Sun Microsystems was running this project, it wouldn't be a mess like this! Would it not - they ain't around any more are they? |
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