Updates stalled.

On 2019-07-26 12:12 a.m., Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
Rene replied ( to me ):
You shouldn't worry about me.

Not to fear, I won't spend any time worrying about you.

What's your beef with me ?

No beef, I just think you're a little unwrapped.

Why are you in Hangzhou ?

Not, Winnipeg.

Why are you running an ancient computer ?

Z390, i7 8700, is that ancient enough to qualify?

Rene

On 2019-07-26 11:01 a.m., Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
Rene replied ( to me ):
Why are you running such an ancient computer ?

Z390, i7 8700, is that ancient enough to qualify ?

Sorry, I must've been hallucinating.

What's your beef with me ?

No beef, I just think you're a little unwrapped.

Who isn't ?


No problem.

Rene

On 2019-07-27, Jeff-Relf.Me @. Jeff-Relf.Me@ wrote:
I wrote:
I'll be getting my new 150$ video card tomorrow,
so I can run 4K at 60 Hz, instead of 30 Hz
( i.e. HDMI 2.0B, instead of 1.4 ).

The test will be to see how jumpy the scrolling is,
in the Task Manager ( I don't play complex video games ).

If there's no improvement, then I'll return the card.
Hopefully, that won't happen.
https://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B07QR2YFTX

I think I'll keep it, especially after
running through the (scary) tests at "TestUFO.COM".

Task Manager's scrolling still looks like crap;
but there's probably nothing I can do about it; no big deal.
Better hardware doesn't always improve bad software.

In Zoom Player, MadVR now works, especially with LAV;
so 4k 60 fps videos Play/FastForward better than they did before.

My LAV Video Decoder has more optimization options now,
CPU usage is way down.

My video editor, OpenShot, probably works better now;
but I haven't tested it.

BackLight bleeding is much, much worse now, for some reason;
50% Contrast with 50% Brightness seems to work best now.
Brightness is way up.

Video game animation looks better.

The GTX 1650 Aero ITX card doesn't fit properly in my Micro ATX box;
but, after removing the backplate, it sorta fits.

I ran "ctTune" ( ClearType Tuner ) again.
Why haven't you bought 1660, much better than that crap.

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Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi
bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala

Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
I wrote:
I'll be getting my new 150$ video card tomorrow,
so I can run 4K at 60 Hz, instead of 30 Hz
( i.e. HDMI 2.0B, instead of 1.4 ).

The test will be to see how jumpy the scrolling is,
in the Task Manager ( I don't play complex video games ).

If there's no improvement, then I'll return the card.
Hopefully, that won't happen.
https://Amazon.COM/gp/product/B07QR2YFTX

I think I'll keep it, especially after
running through the (scary) tests at "TestUFO.COM".

Task Manager's scrolling still looks like crap;
but there's probably nothing I can do about it; no big deal.
Better hardware doesn't always improve bad software.

In Zoom Player, MadVR now works, especially with LAV;
so 4k 60 fps videos Play/FastForward better than they did before.

My LAV Video Decoder has more optimization options now,
CPU usage is way down.

My video editor, OpenShot, probably works better now;
but I haven't tested it.

BackLight bleeding is much, much worse now, for some reason;
50% Contrast with 50% Brightness seems to work best now.
Brightness is way up.

Video game animation looks better.

The GTX 1650 Aero ITX card doesn't fit properly in my Micro ATX box;
but, after removing the backplate, it sorta fits.

I ran "ctTune" ( ClearType Tuner ) again.

Backlight bleed is a function of the optical
solution used for illumination.

Some monitors use "edge" lighting. The illumination LEDs
are along one edge. A piece of plastic spreads the
light from the edge mounted sources. This means light
leakage from that mechanism, can give a "hot" edge
to the panel. The solution, then, is to find
a different means of distributing the light.
The "Edge" method is the lazy way of doing it
(like falling off a log).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD

Edge-lit LEDs

LEDs form a line around the rim of the screen,
with a special diffusion panel (light guide) to
spread the light evenly behind the screen

Direct LED full array
LEDs form an array directly behind the screen at
equally spaced intervals

Some Edge-lit panels, only have LEDs along one edge.
I found a picture of the light guide where someone
had taken apart a panel.

*******

Task Manager is nothing special. It has not been
granted any super-powers.

It runs under the management of DWM like everything
else.

And I don't think the special effects settings has
anything to help.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

There's probably at least one "smooth scrolling"
special effect, but it doesn't do what you think it does.
It would slow down the scroll, because it attempts to
do it a row of pixels at a time. And it is likely to
have a pretty miserable scroll throttle on it.

The scroll you see now, should do the scrolling with
multiple rows of pixels per move.

Also, something you should be aware of, is there is an
issue with the Windows NVidia driver, where (somehow)
the driver affects the smoothness of the "juggling balls"
animation during boot. This did not use to be a problem
with the ATI video card I had, but the newer NVidia card
has a problem. And it doesn't appear they're interested in
fixing it either. Once boot is finished, it's no longer
a problem.

In Windows, the scrolling of a window is charged against
3D shaders. It seems shaders have something to do with it.
You can see this in Task Manager, where the GPU resources
are displayed. If you flip over to the process view, scroll
a bit, then flip over to GPU utilization, you can see
some "blips" in the 3D chart where the video card helped
with the scrolling.

*******

Your monitor could have dynamic backlighting,

Without dynamic backlighting, the panel might
have a contrast ratio of 1000:1. With dynamic
backlighting, when the screen is dark, they
turn down the LEDs so that the "black looks blacker".
And the effective contrast ratio is 1000000:1.

People doing Photoshop work, switch off dynamic
contrast (in the monitor OSD). If using a Spyder,
you calibrate the monitor with the lighting "fixed".
This gives reproducible results from one
picture to the next.

The dynamic option is typically used for video,
and makes movies look better.

With the dark theme on your screen, it might
trigger dynamic contrast, but I don't know how
good the video detector is, and whether the
dynamic effect only triggers for video content
or not.

LED backlighting solutions should have a tremendous
adjustment range. Unlike CCFL, they have no limitations
on intensity. Using PWM (pulse width modulation), you
keep the current flow at a high level, and vary the
percentage of the time that current is applied. The PWM
clock could be running at 25KHz. Frequencies like that
are selected so the power circuits are not audible to
humans.

Paul

KenW wrote:
Are you running 10 ?

No, I' using Windows 8.1, but what I wrote in my response(s) to Jeff
is also applicable to Windows 10.

BTW, quoting *some* context wouldn't go astray! :-)

[N.B. alt.windows7.general added. Please remove it when not relevant for
your post.]

Paul wrote:
KenW wrote:
Are you running 10 ?

KenW

The header is quite a mouthful.

tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (CYGWIN_NT-6.3-WOW/2.8.0(0.309/5/3) (i686)) Hamster/2.0.2.2

I think he... is using a computer.

Exactly! My posts are best viewed using a computer and your eyes open.

Paul of course knows this, but some might not:

NT-6.3 == Windows 8.1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_Windows_versions

The 'i686' bit is not really meaningful. Probably it's the minimum
x86 architecture generation, needed to run tin (my newsreader).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P6_(microarchitecture)

Note "20030910"! Makes one wonder why some people in
alt.windows7.general are worried about their programs not running on
post-7 when they have to abandon their 7 systems! :-) Nearly 16 years
old, not bad hey!?

In message , Frank Slootweg
writes:
[]
The 'i686' bit is not really meaningful. Probably it's the minimum
x86 architecture generation, needed to run tin (my newsreader).
[]
I find it difficult to believe tin - a console-based client, IIRR -
needs a '686! I think I have memories of using it on a dumb
character-mode terminal to a mainframe (might have been a VAX).
--
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good, and thus they tend to cause more harm than good.
- Jimmy Akins quoted by Scott Adams, 2015-5-5

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Frank Slootweg writes:
[]
*The 'i686' bit is not really meaningful. Probably it's the minimum
x86 architecture generation, needed to run tin (my newsreader).
[]
I find it difficult to believe tin - a console-based client, IIRR -
needs a '686! I think I have memories of using it on a dumb
character-mode terminal to a mainframe (might have been a VAX).

Tin continues to be updated/ developed by Urs Janssen; most recent
stable 2.4.3 on 2018 Dec. It (in some version) has been compiled for
dozens of platforms including 3 different cygwin/s, i586, i686, and x86_64.

It would be 'easiest' to get the cygwin (2.11.2) for the current 2.4.3
64 bit; the aready compileds for the i586 and i686 are pre-1.4 (1999)
and 2.20 (2013) resp.


--
Mike Easter

In message , Mike Easter
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Frank Slootweg writes:
[]
*The 'i686' bit is not really meaningful. Probably it's the minimum
x86 architecture generation, needed to run tin (my newsreader).
[]
I find it difficult to believe tin - a console-based client, IIRR -
needs a '686! I think I have memories of using it on a dumb
character-mode terminal to a mainframe (might have been a VAX).

Tin continues to be updated/ developed by Urs Janssen; most recent

Ah, I didn't know that.

stable 2.4.3 on 2018 Dec. It (in some version) has been compiled for
dozens of platforms including 3 different cygwin/s, i586, i686, and
x86_64.

It would be 'easiest' to get the cygwin (2.11.2) for the current 2.4.3
64 bit; the aready compileds for the i586 and i686 are pre-1.4 (1999)
and 2.20 (2013) resp.


--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they can't add
up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March 2003)

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
In message , Frank Slootweg
writes:
[]
The 'i686' bit is not really meaningful. Probably it's the minimum
x86 architecture generation, needed to run tin (my newsreader).
[]
I find it difficult to believe tin - a console-based client, IIRR -
needs a '686! I think I have memories of using it on a dumb
character-mode terminal to a mainframe (might have been a VAX).

Yeah, bad wording on my side. What I meant is that the (Cygwin) tin
executable which *I* happen to have, needs that minimum architecture.
(Cygwin is a Linux-like environment on (MS-)Windows.)

And indeed, I also started using tin "on a dumb character-mode
terminal to a mainframe". In my case under HP-UX (UNIX) on a real
computer, not a VAX! :-) Later on HP-UX workstations with things like
xterm/hpterm instead of a dumb terminal.

As Mike Easter mentioned, Cygwin versions of tin are available for
i586, i686 and x86_64. But on other OSs, the requirement can be as low
as i386.

Full details at http://www.tin.org/builds.html.

As Mike explained, tin is still actively maintained. I just 'happen'
to have/use a very old version ("If it ain't broken, ...").

For all you ever wanted to know about tin: http://www.tin.org

Thanks, where is the 1903 install iso found? I had used the purchased
Win10 pro disk for original installation.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/soft...load/windows10

Change the en-ca to your own localization.

If you visit that site from WinXP or Linux, you get just
an ISO file, and the ISO file is too big for single
layer media (at least for the most common x64 disc).
It has 11 OS versions, and the 64 bit one is 4,939,528,192 bytes.

Visiting the site from Vista+, gives you a stub
downloader called "MediaCreationTool1903.exe". This
means the website changes its response, based on whether
it thinks your OS has .NET to support the EXE file.

If you want to know what the media you bought
consists of, you open the sources folder of the
disc, and there is an "install.wim" (or install.esd) on there.
If you use a modern version of 7ZIP, it can look inside
the install.wim. Inside you will see one folder per OS version
(Home,Pro,Workstation...). In addition, there is an XML file
also in the list, and that XML file can be opened in Notepad.
There are text strings in the XML file, describing what
OS versions are in the folders. So that's how you tell both
the numeric version plus the text name of the OSes in there.

The MediaCreationTool can make a USB stick boot device, or
can make a DVD or can save as an ISO. The MediaCreationTool
version has 7 OSes on it, and both the x86 and x64 discs
fit on single layer media.

Since each MediaCreationTool ISO downloaded is unique (different
date stamp), there's no point in comparing checksums. Not
even the size might be the same (could be off a few bytes).
THis will give some idea on the size.

Win10-64bit-mediacreation-1903-7OSes.iso 3,967,483,904 bytes

Win10-32bit-mediacreation-1903-7OSes.iso 2,894,200,832 bytes

Paul

Thanks Paul, I'm afraid I entered panic mode & took the computer to
the fixit shop. They seemed familiar with the problem because
someone comes in with it about once/month. Anyway they fixed it
somehow, but they would not say how they did it. I asked several
times at/in various ways but always they were cagey about it. They
gave the usual explanation about viruses/loose conections/ electricity
power variations, errant programs etc. Still, it's fixed, and they
said they could fix it any time. It seems I have to do checkups
before backups lest I backup the faults as well!

Windows Update never works for me; when I try to use it,
it's ultra-miserable, with MULTIPLE SLOW, FAILING REBOOTS.

So I think it's best to never use it;
I turn off those services.

Downloading 1903, for example, works well enough for me;
it takes an hour or so to set up correctly afterwards,
but it's not too bad.

I have to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys",
as that's what I always call it. Unless+Until I do that,
many programs can't find my settings.

I think I have to restore from my backups, at times.

Also, I have to re-take ownership of "DefaultMediaCost" -Manually-,
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost]
Re-Merge-In my settings ( Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT ),
check for updates, ReBoot.

Also, I have to re-format all of my File-Explorer folders,
so they look the way I want -- very annoying.

KenW replied ( to me ):
I have to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys",
as that's what I always call it. Unless+Until I do that,
many programs can't find my settings.

Win 10 does not like that.

I run that way all the time, no problems;
a 1903-type updates destroy some of my settings,
but I can live with it.

From "Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT":

; SystemWide Environment Variables:
; HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Environment
; "TMP"="%SystemRoot%\\Tmp"
; Reqires a ReBoot.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Volatile Environment]
"USERPROFILE"="c:\\__\\Sys"
"HOMEPATH"="c:\\__\\Sys"
"APPDATA"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"LOCALAPPDATA"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"

; Switch SysFolders to Short, Friendly Paths, all under "C:\__" ( Home ).
;
; First, "RightClick Properties - Location - Move" each special folder.
; Make Sure "MyDocumentsLocation", "Shell Folders"/"Personal",
; and "User Shell Folders"/"Personal" ( below ) agree with each other.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\ 15.0]
"MyDocumentsLocation"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"VisualStudioLocation"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Micr osoft\\VisStudio"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]
"Personal"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}"="c:\\__\\Sys"
"{A520A1A4-1780-4FF6-BD18-167343C5AF16}"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
"Startup"="C:\\__\\Startup"
"SendTo"="C:\\__\\SendTo"
"AppData"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"Local AppData"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"Local Settings"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"Local AppDataLow"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
"Cache"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\IE-Tmp"
"Desktop"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Desktop"
"PrintHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\PrintHood"
"NetHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\NetHood"
"Cookies"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Cookies"
"Recent"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Recent"
"Start Menu"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Start Menu"
"Programs"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Programs"
"History"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\History"
"Templates"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Templates"
"Favorites"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Pictures"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Music"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Video"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders]
"Personal"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}"="c:\\__\\Sys"
"{A520A1A4-1780-4FF6-BD18-167343C5AF16}"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
"Startup"="C:\\__\\Startup"
"SendTo"="C:\\__\\SendTo"
"AppData"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"Local AppData"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
"Local Settings"="C:\\__\\Sys"
"Local AppDataLow"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
"Cache"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\IE-Tmp"
"Desktop"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Desktop"
"PrintHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\PrintHood"
"NetHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\NetHood"
"Cookies"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Cookies"
"Recent"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Recent"
"Start Menu"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Start Menu"
"Programs"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Programs"
"History"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\History"
"Templates"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Templates"
"Favorites"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Pictures"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Music"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
"My Video"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"

Frank replied ( to me ):
I have to rename the "Documents" folder back to "Sys",
as that's what I always call it. Unless+Until I do that,
many programs can't find my settings.

If you change the Properties of the *library* 'Documents' not to point
to the *folder* 'Documents', but to your 'Sys' folder, you shouldn't
have to change anything.

" The Properties of the *library* 'Documents' " ?
I don't know how to do whatever it is you're trying to suggest.

I run Windows 10 v1903, Home Edition.

Frank replied ( to me ):
In the 'Library locations' box, you can define
to which *folderS* (one or more) your library points.

Zero or More.
I manually removed all of the "Library" folders;
and I renamed all of its subfolders.

How this will affect my next major (version) update ?

Thank you for telling me about "Libraries" and
"optimizing/customizing" a folder for (e.g.) videos.
Normally, I ignore+hide the navigation pane.

the File History backup mechanism.

I prefer my own special backup system.