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That means you never gave it the license key, after you reinstalled it. Or, you unticked "automatically activate" after giving it the license key. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...-7-online.html https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html Paul It says remaining rearm count - 3 so does that mean it will say Activate Windows 7 only three more times and after that I will loose the genuine and all our work will be lost? Is there a way to force this rather than waiting for it? I mean I could go to warm up my coffee and it could pop-up and be gone by the time I get back. Man I thought all these problems were over with. Robert |
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On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 3:33:18 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 11:37:09 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 10:20:04 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: I just got a Activate Windows pop-up on the 780!? Isn't that weird? It happened so fast I couldn't take a screenshot. Robert Has it gone Not Genuine again ? From an Administrator Command Prompt, try slmgr /dlv and it will say something about "activated" or "grace period", where "grace period" needs the license key to be entered so it can activate. The System control panel may also contain a string indicating activation. Paul No it has not gone genuine it just had the pop-up https://postimg.cc/sQzVXS4L Robert I just noticed that it says under license status, I have 25 days remaining. So does that mean in 25 days it will revert to not genuine? Robert That means you never gave it the license key, after you reinstalled it. Or, you unticked "automatically activate" after giving it the license key. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...-7-online.html https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html Paul The worst case scenario is that I will loose the present HD and it will go not genuine and I can't get Win 7 back. In that event I will just put in my backup Win 7 HD and maybe clone over this one. I don't understand why it did not accept the license key but we will give it another try and maybe this time it will work. Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
That means you never gave it the license key, after you reinstalled it. Or, you unticked "automatically activate" after giving it the license key. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...-7-online.html https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html Paul It says remaining rearm count - 3 so does that mean it will say Activate Windows 7 only three more times and after that I will loose the genuine and all our work will be lost? Is there a way to force this rather than waiting for it? I mean I could go to warm up my coffee and it could pop-up and be gone by the time I get back. Man I thought all these problems were over with. Robert The "rearm count" is for "Grace Period". The Grace Period is 30 days. If you use the rearm command, you can extend the grace period to 3 * 30 = 90 days. It requires waiting to the last possible moment, then using a rearm. This has, well, nothing to do with abuse of activating Windows. It's hard to say what conditions trigger key revocation. I don't know what does it. Paul |
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 3:33:18 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 11:37:09 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 10:20:04 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: I just got a Activate Windows pop-up on the 780!? Isn't that weird? It happened so fast I couldn't take a screenshot. Robert Has it gone Not Genuine again ? From an Administrator Command Prompt, try slmgr /dlv and it will say something about "activated" or "grace period", where "grace period" needs the license key to be entered so it can activate. The System control panel may also contain a string indicating activation. Paul No it has not gone genuine it just had the pop-up https://postimg.cc/sQzVXS4L Robert I just noticed that it says under license status, I have 25 days remaining. So does that mean in 25 days it will revert to not genuine? Robert That means you never gave it the license key, after you reinstalled it. Or, you unticked "automatically activate" after giving it the license key. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...-7-online.html https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html Paul The worst case scenario is that I will loose the present HD and it will go not genuine and I can't get Win 7 back. In that event I will just put in my backup Win 7 HD and maybe clone over this one. I don't understand why it did not accept the license key but we will give it another try and maybe this time it will work. Robert Microsoft provides free support for activation issues. You're not really in the woods on this. Help is available. If worse comes to worse, there will be a phone number to call, to work through the issues with a human. On an OEM license key (the one you're trying to activate), there is a Phone requirement. See this page, for the https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html 56-digit challenge and response. The OEM license challenge and response are automated. No human works on the other end. You copy a 56 digit string to your telephone key pad, when prompted. The robot at the other end, will "speak" a 56 digit response. You write that down. You enter it into a box on the computer screen, and the job is done. The OS activates. This has something to do with geolocation and proving a USA key is being used in the continental USA. It doesn't seem to have much other purpose than to annoy people. When I reinstalled Windows 7 on my laptop (Home Premium), I went through this routine too. So expect it to be a requirement. Start : Run : "slui 3" might be enough to kick it off, if the automation does not prompt you to start the process. "SLUI: which stands for SOFTWARE LICENSING USER INTERFACE 1. SLUI 1 brings up the activation status window 2. SLUI 2 brings up the activation window 3. SLUI 3 brings up the CHANGE PRODUCT KEY window 4. SLUI 4 brings up the CALL MICROSOFT & MANUALLY ACTIVATE window " Each geographical area has different phone numbers. There might be an "office hours" requirement for any procedure involving humans. The "robot" should be ready to go any ole time. If the attempt to use the robot fails, then you'll want to try a different method when "support" phone hours are valid. Paul |
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Robert in CA writes: [50 lines snipped] The worst case scenario is that I will loose the present HD and it will go not [lose (-:] genuine and I can't get Win 7 back. In that event I will just put in my backup Win 7 HD and maybe clone over this one. As an observer on the sidelines, I'm just puzzled why you _aren't_ just putting back the backup W7 HD, and spending so much time trying to get the more recent one back to activated. I'm assuming the backup one was made by cloning an activated system. Or have you done something with the one that's gone rogue, that you don't want to lose? [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf A clean, neat and orderly desk is a sign of a sick mind. (G6JPG's mind is clearly extremely healthy ...) |
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As an observer on the sidelines, I'm just puzzled why you _aren't_ just putting back the backup W7 HD, and spending so much time trying to get the more recent one back to activated. I'm assuming the backup one was made by cloning an activated system. Or have you done something with the one that's gone rogue, that you don't want to lose? [] You make a good point. I have spent way too much time on this and that was the whole point of having backup HD's and Mrimgs so I wouldn't have to be doing this. However we have gone so far with the HD it seems a waste not to activate it. Robert |
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Should I just try activating it by phone now? As I say, if I wait for the Activate Windows pop-up again I may miss it if I go for coffee etc because I have no idea when it will pop-up again. Robert |
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Microsoft provides free support for activation issues. You're not really in the woods on this. Help is available. If worse comes to worse, there will be a phone number to call, to work through the issues with a human. On an OEM license key (the one you're trying to activate), there is a Phone requirement. See this page, for the https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html 56-digit challenge and response. The OEM license challenge and response are automated. No human works on the other end. You copy a 56 digit string to your telephone key pad, when prompted. The robot at the other end, will "speak" a 56 digit response. You write that down. You enter it into a box on the computer screen, and the job is done. The OS a... I was thinking and it occurred to me that if I go ahead and change the license key by phone then the other good Win7 HD won't work because the license key will have been changed. Isn't better/faster to put that good Win7 HD back in the 780, run scans,make a system restore point and mrimg then clone this HD? Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
Microsoft provides free support for activation issues. You're not really in the woods on this. Help is available. If worse comes to worse, there will be a phone number to call, to work through the issues with a human. On an OEM license key (the one you're trying to activate), there is a Phone requirement. See this page, for the https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...s-7-phone.html 56-digit challenge and response. The OEM license challenge and response are automated. No human works on the other end. You copy a 56 digit string to your telephone key pad, when prompted. The robot at the other end, will "speak" a 56 digit response. You write that down. You enter it into a box on the computer screen, and the job is done. The OS a... I was thinking and it occurred to me that if I go ahead and change the license key by phone then the other good Win7 HD won't work because the license key will have been changed. Isn't better/faster to put that good Win7 HD back in the 780, run scans,make a system restore point and mrimg then clone this HD? Robert If you want to restore the image you made of the 780, you can. You'll need to boot the Macrium CD, have your backup drive in a USB enclosure, and restore the MRIMG to the drive that is internal. ******* You can have multiple disk drives with the same C: on them. You just can't use them on multiple computers at the same time. They're activated against one set of hardware, and that is where you'd use them each time (when booting them as an OS). When you seem to be installing Windows 7 to the same C: drive two hundred times (and presenting the same key each time), Microsoft takes this as a "warning sign" you're making illegal copies or something (trying to run the OS on many different machines or something). The trigger condition does not make a lot of sense, but does seem to happen. If you reinstall the OS once a year, then nothing will happen to you. If you haven't typed the key in, then nothing you've done so far is "count-able". I install OSes all the time with no license key, for test purposes, and throw away the image after around three days or so. And nobody cares about that. Paul |
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Success!@!! The Activate Windows pop-up came up again so I clicked it and put in the license key and this time it took it. https://postimg.cc/jWqKCpv4 https://postimg.cc/Fd74V0Mf Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
Success!@!! The Activate Windows pop-up came up again so I clicked it and put in the license key and this time it took it. https://postimg.cc/jWqKCpv4 https://postimg.cc/Fd74V0Mf Robert That's interesting. I thought they'd hit you up for the 56-digit challenge/response thing. It's good to know the Refurbisher thing is more forgiving :-) Paul |
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On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 7:20:03 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: Success!@!! The Activate Windows pop-up came up again so I clicked it and put in the license key and this time it took it. https://postimg.cc/jWqKCpv4 https://postimg.cc/Fd74V0Mf Robert That's interesting. I thought they'd hit you up for the 56-digit challenge/response thing. It's good to know the Refurbisher thing is more forgiving :-) Paul As a precaution, I wrote the license key down again just in case I had got it wrong the first time and there's always the possibility I hit the wrong key before but it is forgiving as you say. I think it would be a good time to do a system restore point after I finish with all the scans. Then do a Mrimg. I'm going to try an install Word again and see if it takes this time. Thoughts/suggestions? Robert |
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Ran all the scans, made a system restore point and finishing a Mrimg. Thanks again for all your good help bringing the HD back to life. Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
Ran all the scans, made a system restore point and finishing a Mrimg. Thanks again for all your good help bringing the HD back to life. Robert I'm just glad the computer let you finish! Paul |
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I'm going to try an install Word again and see if it takes this time. Thoughts/suggestions? Robert I tried to install Word again but it didn't accept the license key. I this time it would because the Windows activation worked and that accepted the license key. Strange,.... and if I recall I had Word on it before. Robert |
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