Windows 1903

On 07/06/2019 13:52, Ken wrote:
pk121 wrote:
"Ken" wrote in message ...

Will the downloaded ISO fit on a 4.7 GB DVD like previous versions
did? Or is the 1903 version too large and must be placed on a thumb
drive?


No it will not...I used a Thumb Drive for the installation




I appreciate your reply, but I just downloaded it and put it on the
4.7 GB DVD. I have not yet tried to install from it, so you might be
correct. My searching found that some who had failures doing so,
seemed to think it was all the language files that made it too large
for the 4.7 DVD. When I downloaded the ISO, the highlighted language
option was for English only. Perhaps that is the reason?


It should work. I have done it. During installation, the files are
extracted on to your hard disk so DVD disk space is not relevant. The
only time you need to worry is when the ISO file is too big but as I
said double layer disk will work for it.



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😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 07/06/2019 12:27, Ken wrote:

Will the downloaded ISO fit on a 4.7 GB DVD like previous versions
did? Or is the 1903 version too large and must be placed on a thumb
drive?

Yes if you use a Windows 10 machine to download the ISO.Â* If you use
something else then the ISO will pack some additional programs just in
case they are required to install.Â* Microsoft is trying to play safe.

Somebody tried to use a Linux machine and the ISO file was too big to
fit into one DVD drive.Â* He didn't try to use double layer DVD disk but
it should fit into a double layer DVD.Â* The capacity of double layer DVD
disk is 8.5 GB.Â* i used the ordinary DVD disk and it fitted perfectly
but I was using a Windows 10 machine.

Good luck.


I took the DVD I wrote version 1903 to and it installed just fine. It
was a single layer DVD and I think the total volume was something like
4.2 GB. Apparently the creation on a Windows 10 machine is the
solution. Just thought I would let readers know.

Ken wrote:
😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 07/06/2019 12:27, Ken wrote:

Will the downloaded ISO fit on a 4.7 GB DVD like previous versions
did? Or is the 1903 version too large and must be placed on a thumb
drive?

Yes if you use a Windows 10 machine to download the ISO. If you use
something else then the ISO will pack some additional programs just in
case they are required to install. Microsoft is trying to play safe.

Somebody tried to use a Linux machine and the ISO file was too big to
fit into one DVD drive. He didn't try to use double layer DVD disk
but it should fit into a double layer DVD. The capacity of double
layer DVD disk is 8.5 GB. i used the ordinary DVD disk and it fitted
perfectly but I was using a Windows 10 machine.

Good luck.


I took the DVD I wrote version 1903 to and it installed just fine. It
was a single layer DVD and I think the total volume was something like
4.2 GB. Apparently the creation on a Windows 10 machine is the
solution. Just thought I would let readers know.


So did you inspect the install.wim to figure out why ?

Maybe there's only one version of Windows in there.

You inspect your ISO with 7ZIP, and drill down
into sources\install.wim, then ask 7ZIP to "Open inside",
then look for an XML file. The XML file would have 11 entries
if it was the ISO I downloaded.

If there's no named single folder, and just the top
level of an installer there, and no XML file, that too
means only one version of Windows is in there. It also
means the media is not "generic enough" to be put in
your Geek Squad bag (no good for visits to customer homes
due to the lack of versions).

Removing the excess versions from install.wim, is how you
make the image 500MB smaller. There's a DISM command for that.

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...nt-email.me%3E

Paul

Paul wrote:
Ken wrote:
😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 07/06/2019 12:27, Ken wrote:

Will the downloaded ISO fit on a 4.7 GB DVD like previous versions
did? Or is the 1903 version too large and must be placed on a thumb
drive?

Yes if you use a Windows 10 machine to download the ISO.Â* If you use
something else then the ISO will pack some additional programs just
in case they are required to install.Â* Microsoft is trying to play safe.

Somebody tried to use a Linux machine and the ISO file was too big to
fit into one DVD drive.Â* He didn't try to use double layer DVD disk
but it should fit into a double layer DVD.Â* The capacity of double
layer DVD disk is 8.5 GB.Â* i used the ordinary DVD disk and it fitted
perfectly but I was using a Windows 10 machine.

Good luck.


I took the DVD I wrote version 1903 to and it installed just fine.Â* It
was a single layer DVD and I think the total volume was something like
4.2 GB.Â* Apparently the creation on a Windows 10 machine is the
solution.Â* Just thought I would let readers know.


So did you inspect the install.wim to figure out why ?

No, I did not. I am not sure I would recognize it if I saw it. I am
simply reporting the facts. I do not know why it worked, just wanted to
let others know it did. Those more knowledgeable that me can dissect
the events.


Maybe there's only one version of Windows in there.

You inspect your ISO with 7ZIP, and drill down
into sources\install.wim, then ask 7ZIP to "Open inside",
then look for an XML file. The XML file would have 11 entries
if it was the ISO I downloaded.

If there's no named single folder, and just the top
level of an installer there, and no XML file, that too
means only one version of Windows is in there. It also
means the media is not "generic enough" to be put in
your Geek Squad bag (no good for visits to customer homes
due to the lack of versions).

Removing the excess versions from install.wim, is how you
make the image 500MB smaller. There's a DISM command for that.

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...nt-email.me%3E


Â*Â* Paul

Ken wrote:

No, I did not. I am not sure I would recognize it if I saw it. I am
simply reporting the facts. I do not know why it worked, just wanted to
let others know it did. Those more knowledgeable that me can dissect
the events.

If we got some positive feedback on this, it would
definitely be preferable to having to use DISM and oscdimg
or the like.

But it also means it's a single SKU DVD, and if your DVD
is Windows 10 Pro and a friend wants help with Windows 10 Home,
the disc in your hand is less useful (you can boot to the
Command Prompt with it, and do Command Prompt based repairs,
but you can't reinstall Windows 10 Home with it).

This makes the disc

useful and not so useful

One benefit of the disc in this case, is it supports UEFI boot,
so you can work on broken UEFI systems say. Depending on various
naive ways of making USB sticks, they may be missing UEFI capability.
Not a big deal, except if you're on a Dell or an HP or something
and are trying to tip it upright somehow. I had a relatively
rough time setting up a multiboot UEFI because of this, and
even then, the setup was just a mess (just... wrong). Legacy
setups are well behaved by comparison, but we won't be
able to use them forever. We have to learn this UEFI
****, no matter what.

Paul

Ken wrote:
Paul wrote:
Ken wrote:
😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 07/06/2019 12:27, Ken wrote:

Will the downloaded ISO fit on a 4.7 GB DVD like previous versions
did? Or is the 1903 version too large and must be placed on a thumb
drive?

Yes if you use a Windows 10 machine to download the ISO. If you use
something else then the ISO will pack some additional programs just
in case they are required to install. Microsoft is trying to play
safe.

Somebody tried to use a Linux machine and the ISO file was too big
to fit into one DVD drive. He didn't try to use double layer DVD
disk but it should fit into a double layer DVD. The capacity of
double layer DVD disk is 8.5 GB. i used the ordinary DVD disk and
it fitted perfectly but I was using a Windows 10 machine.

Good luck.


I took the DVD I wrote version 1903 to and it installed just fine.
It was a single layer DVD and I think the total volume was something
like 4.2 GB. Apparently the creation on a Windows 10 machine is the
solution. Just thought I would let readers know.


So did you inspect the install.wim to figure out why ?

No, I did not. I am not sure I would recognize it if I saw it. I am
simply reporting the facts. I do not know why it worked, just wanted to
let others know it did. Those more knowledgeable that me can dissect
the events.

OK, I had a look.

Win10_1903_V1_English_x64.iso 4,939,528,192 bytes # Contains 11 versions of Win10 x64

W190364.iso (home made remaster) 4,442,161,152 bytes # Contains 1 version of Win10 x64
# Remastering saved 500MB

Win10-64bit-mediacreation-1903.iso 3,967,483,904 # Contains *7* versions of Win10 x64
# Did this two hours ago with the
# MediaCreationTool.

So somehow, it's a whole gigabyte smaller than
the one I can download with WinXP or from a
Linux machine. And yet it's still useful.

So that mediacreationtool one appears to be a winner.
It's smaller and yet it's still useful.

And don't ask me why they do stuff like this. Makes
no sense, all the arbitrary shenanigans.

Paul

Keith Nuttle wrote:

Has Windows 1903 been released to the average user?

Apparently it can still be blocked if you have intel graphics,

This machine has intel HD graphics 620, I manually installed 1903 and
was using 26.20.100.xxxx of the DCH driver (tried several versions of
xxxx) and found video playback within firefox was very crashy, I've gone
back to version 25.10.100.xxxx of the video driver and it's fine.

Keith Nuttle posted:

Has Windows 1903 been released to the average user?

Kindly define "the average user"...

I don't believe there's any racial, gender, religious, or political slant
connected to their release protocols... ALTHOUGH THAT MIGHT explain why
"certain" individuals experience certain selective settings anamolies upon
completion of the update sequences.

Always make sure you're not wearing any medallions, t-shirts, body jewelry,
or exposing any facial/upper-body tattoos which would identify you as a
minority demographic... Or do like Mark Zuckerberg: put a piece of tape
over your camera hole and pull the plug on your microphone before
connecting to the mothership.

Just visit your Settings app; select Update and Security button; click
Check for Updates... then wait and observe the blinking thingys or get a
cup of coffee and make love to your girlfriend[s]... when you return you
should see an option to retrieve the 1903 Features Update with some
instructions on how to procede...

Be forewarned, the process took almost 3-1/2 hours on my primary PC, a
Windows 10 Professional, 64-bit, really FASSSSSSSSSSST computer on a
monster cable connection... After the "Preparing for update",
"Downloading", and "Installing" routines, it still took about 45-minutes
and 6 reboots before it bushwhacked me with two glorious tabs of Microsoft
Edge revelling in the delights of this newest rendition of the Windows 10
adventure.

Yippie-kie-yay...

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Andy Burns wrote:

Keith Nuttle wrote:

Has Windows 1903 been released to the average user?

Apparently it can still be blocked if you have intel graphics,

This machine has intel HD graphics 620, I manually installed 1903 and
was using 26.20.100.xxxx of the DCH driver (tried several versions of
xxxx) and found video playback within firefox was very crashy, I've gone
back to version 25.10.100.xxxx of the video driver and it's fine.

Intel DCH driver 26.20.10.7000 release notes say

"Improved stability for Edge and Firefox browsers."

And now seems fine